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moms may see stronger warnings on formula

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MOTHERS may see stronger official warnings on baby formula labels about the risks of not breastfeeding.

The nation's food watchdog is seeking feedback on whether "breast is best" messages should be changed to clearly spell out the health benefits of breast versus bottle.

But the Infant Nutrition Council fears more confronting statements will make mothers using formula feel anxious and "second rate".

Under current law, manufacturers point out that "Breast milk is best for babies. Before you decide to use this product, consult your doctor or health worker for advice".

Food Standards Australia New Zealand deputy CEO Melanie Fisher said some public health experts had suggested altering labels amid concern over poor breastfeeding rates.

"Some stakeholders have suggested that the breast is best warning statement be amended to a risk-based statement about the risks to infant health of not breastfeeding," a consultation paper notes.

"These stakeholders state that such a statement would reflect a body of evidence showing that compared to formula feeding, breastfeeding is associated with lower incidence of infection and some chronic diseases, and evidence for improved cognitive development in the breastfed infant."

FSANZ is calling for submissions ahead of a review of infant formula regulations next year.

The Australian Breastfeeding Association says that despite recommendations to breastfeed babies exclusively for six months, less than one in five children are solely breastfed by the time they are at that age.

Infant Nutrition Council chief executive officer Jan Carey said that while breastfeeding was the "ultimate form of nutrition" and a "magical substance", scientifically-based infant formulas were not dangerous.

"I certainly agree that mothers should be able to make an informed choice. It is also important that mothers are not made to feel anxious," Ms Carey said.

"It's unfair if mothers are made to feel second rate." Lack of support at home or in the workplace, concerns about not producing enough milk, and difficulty breastfeeding were key reasons for using formula.

Dr Jennifer James, a senior lecturer in nursing and midwifery at RMIT University, said breast milk provided immunity and childhood obesity protection, and improved brain, oral and eye development.

Infant formula was vulnerable to production errors and contamination if not properly prepared, she said.



Read more: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/breast-milk-experts-seek-right-formula/story-fnet08ck-1226482119636#ixzz27uHG2Zpv

by on Sep. 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM
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Mom2Phoenix2011
by on Sep. 30, 2012 at 5:28 PM
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Laziness is a choice, and if someone is not willing to do research chances are they are not reading a label either, but again where is the label on your breast, that states you are 100% organic, and saying how healthy your breast milk is with half of what people put in their systems and transfer to their children it is just as bad.
Quoting asaffell:

No, I'm not saying that. I am saying, however, that it is the responsibility of a product that causes harm to inform the public. And there are a lot of mothers who trust formula because they have not been given the proper information about it being so inferior to breastmilk. AND if more moms had the information right there in their hands, it would be harder to ignore.

Stupidity has nothing to do with it. Easy access to information is the point.


Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

So you are in essence saying that because there is not a label on things that means people are to stupid to do the research? Where is the label on your breast because I know mine does not have one.





Quoting asaffell:

Except that people can read labels, and make an informed decision. Without that information readily available, there is no informed choice and a mother is going off of guesses and advertising. I am so tired of people being offended by facts. 


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MaryJarrett
by Mary on Sep. 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM
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Not true. You should do some research on that. It's very interesting. A mother's body provides it's infant with maximum nutrition forsaking itself if need be. Even malnutrition mother's provide breast milk with better nutritional balance than formula contains. Also, the chemicals a mom is exposed to is filtered through her body and not transferred to the baby in large amounts whereas if you look into formula recalls there is no barrier of protection from those chemicals to a precious babies internal organs. It really is an interesting topic to research.

Not that formula doesn't have it's place but as previously posted, it is 4th and LAST on the list of the WHO's hierarchy of infant feeding which goes 1) mother's milk from breast 2) mother's milk anyway possible 3) human milk any way possible 4) formula

I, personally, would likely make my own formula (Weston A Price recipe, most likely) before trusting commercial. But before all that I would use donor milk through sns.


Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

Laziness is a choice, and if someone is not willing to do research chances are they are not reading a label either, but again where is the label on your breast, that states you are 100% organic, and saying how healthy your breast milk is with half of what people put in their systems and transfer to their children it is just as bad.
Quoting asaffell:

No, I'm not saying that. I am saying, however, that it is the responsibility of a product that causes harm to inform the public. And there are a lot of mothers who trust formula because they have not been given the proper information about it being so inferior to breastmilk. AND if more moms had the information right there in their hands, it would be harder to ignore.

Stupidity has nothing to do with it. Easy access to information is the point.


Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

So you are in essence saying that because there is not a label on things that means people are to stupid to do the research? Where is the label on your breast because I know mine does not have one.







Quoting asaffell:

Except that people can read labels, and make an informed decision. Without that information readily available, there is no informed choice and a mother is going off of guesses and advertising. I am so tired of people being offended by facts. 


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MaryJarrett
by Mary on Sep. 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM
I completely agree.


When my DD1 was in the hospital with staph I asked the nurse to bring me all the med packets so I could read them. He was *stunned*, absolutely awestruck. He had never been asked to do that before. I don't just want to know, I need to know. It's*my* responsibility as her mom to make sure that she is getting treated the best ways possible and to know the risks and prepare for them, to know the reactions so I could get help if needed. I was "that mom" who asked questions about everything.

It is our job as parents to know these things and protect our kids. Yes, the side effects are scary and very possible but sometimes they are worth it. It's worth knowing.


Quoting mostlymaydays:

I've said it a million times, I'm all for complete disclosure. If something I give my child to eat raises their chances of getting a disease or health condition, then I want to know before I make that decision. If you HAVE to use formula, why should you feel guilty with these medical facts? My one ds is on medication for asthma, and while it carries risks of side-effects, I'm at peace with the fact that I made a evidence-based decision, weighing risks and benefits. I don't *like* having to read about side-effects but I don't want doctors pretending they don't exist until I bring my kid in with a problem and they tell me that's because of a common side-effect, surprise! As consumers, moms should DEMAND this disclosure, no matter how uncomfortable it makes us.
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Mom2Phoenix2011
by on Sep. 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM
So I will ask a third time first time for you, where is the label located on your breast to prove it. If breast was able to filter as well as you beloved no child would get anything harmful through breast milk that includes alcohol drugs preservatives. I am all for breast feeding I think all women should do it if they can. However you do not have a medical degree and therefore have to hope that those that do are right. Just remember people will find what they want to make themselves feel better.
Quoting MaryJarrett:

Not true. You should do some research on that. It's very interesting. A mother's body provides it's infant with maximum nutrition forsaking itself if need be. Even malnutrition mother's provide breast milk with better nutritional balance than formula contains. Also, the chemicals a mom is exposed to is filtered through her body and not transferred to the baby in large amounts whereas if you look into formula recalls there is no barrier of protection from those chemicals to a precious babies internal organs. It really is an interesting topic to research.



Not that formula doesn't have it's place but as previously posted, it is 4th and LAST on the list of the WHO's hierarchy of infant feeding which goes 1) mother's milk from breast 2) mother's milk anyway possible 3) human milk any way possible 4) formula



I, personally, would likely make my own formula (Weston A Price recipe, most likely) before trusting commercial. But before all that I would use donor milk through sns.


Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

Laziness is a choice, and if someone is not willing to do research chances are they are not reading a label either, but again where is the label on your breast, that states you are 100% organic, and saying how healthy your breast milk is with half of what people put in their systems and transfer to their children it is just as bad.
Quoting asaffell:

No, I'm not saying that. I am saying, however, that it is the responsibility of a product that causes harm to inform the public. And there are a lot of mothers who trust formula because they have not been given the proper information about it being so inferior to breastmilk. AND if more moms had the information right there in their hands, it would be harder to ignore.

Stupidity has nothing to do with it. Easy access to information is the point.


Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

So you are in essence saying that because there is not a label on things that means people are to stupid to do the research? Where is the label on your breast because I know mine does not have one.









Quoting asaffell:

Except that people can read labels, and make an informed decision. Without that information readily available, there is no informed choice and a mother is going off of guesses and advertising. I am so tired of people being offended by facts. 


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gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on Sep. 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM
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Where is the label on your vagina or belly saying your womb is the optimal environment for growing a child? After all, you can ingest things that are not good for a fetus. How are you sure you're NOT ingesting something hamrful to the fetus? By reading the labels of the products you ingest, correct? The same care applies while breastfeeding. The nice thing is that the breast DOES filter and the pregnancy restrictions are gone. Big difference between processed through the body and breast and straight from the bloodstream.

It should be noted that Annaica's article is not about US labeling. And actually, what I would want to see on a fomrula can is a label regarding the FDA's guidelines for manufacturing, including the acceptable minimums for contamination. That said, I'd want that for ALL food labels.

Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

So I will ask a third time first time for you, where is the label located on your breast to prove it. If breast was able to filter as well as you beloved no child would get anything harmful through breast milk that includes alcohol drugs preservatives. I am all for breast feeding I think all women should do it if they can. However you do not have a medical degree and therefore have to hope that those that do are right. Just remember people will find what they want to make themselves feel better.
asaffell
by on Sep. 30, 2012 at 6:25 PM
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It's asinine to compare labeling of man-made manufactured products to the lack of labeling on our own bodies.

MaryJarrett
by Mary on Sep. 30, 2012 at 6:40 PM
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Where is your kidneys' label stating that they work? Where's your brain's label? How do you know that they are working to keep you alive? The proof is that you are alive. However, they aren't necessary for living. You can be attached to machines that operate your body's functions, but is that identical to the natural workings? No? Which is preferable, dialysis or a kidney? The real deal or the alternative? They have the same function.
Just like formula has the same function as breast milk. You can find the composition of breast milk vs the composition of formula, and look at it for yourself. I've read it, it's appalling.

Those substances are substantially reduced by breastfeeding, whereas they are getting a direct dose of preservatives, sugar, and chemically altered nutrients fed directly into their open digestive system putting the child at the sole risk with no filtration what so ever in the event they are formula fed.

Have you researched anything about infant feeding for yourself?

For someone who is all for breastfeeding, you don't seem to have a lot of confidence in the human body.
Are you OK?
It seems like somewhere along the road of life that you've lost hope that your body, or women's, or human's in general can do what they were meant to do.
Anything we can do to help you gain that confidence back? Do you need help? We're here to help, even if it isn't breastfeeding related. I mean it.

Having a medical degree has very little with infant nutrition, as medical doctors are experts in pathology, not feeding. :) Unless they are nutritionist with an IBCLC, they are about as informed as you are on the matter. My hope is that someday pediatric specialists will be better trained in breastfeeding and nutrition, but that hasn't happened yet.

I think it's nice you assume that I don't though. We can all assume things until we're blue in the face, doesn't change the fact that people have the right to know exactly what they are putting in their bodies and what risk that bares.
Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

So I will ask a third time first time for you, where is the label located on your breast to prove it. If breast was able to filter as well as you beloved no child would get anything harmful through breast milk that includes alcohol drugs preservatives. I am all for breast feeding I think all women should do it if they can. However you do not have a medical degree and therefore have to hope that those that do are right. Just remember people will find what they want to make themselves feel better.
Quoting MaryJarrett:

Not true. You should do some research on that. It's very interesting. A mother's body provides it's infant with maximum nutrition forsaking itself if need be. Even malnutrition mother's provide breast milk with better nutritional balance than formula contains. Also, the chemicals a mom is exposed to is filtered through her body and not transferred to the baby in large amounts whereas if you look into formula recalls there is no barrier of protection from those chemicals to a precious babies internal organs. It really is an interesting topic to research.



Not that formula doesn't have it's place but as previously posted, it is 4th and LAST on the list of the WHO's hierarchy of infant feeding which goes 1) mother's milk from breast 2) mother's milk anyway possible 3) human milk any way possible 4) formula



I, personally, would likely make my own formula (Weston A Price recipe, most likely) before trusting commercial. But before all that I would use donor milk through sns.


Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

Laziness is a choice, and if someone is not willing to do research chances are they are not reading a label either, but again where is the label on your breast, that states you are 100% organic, and saying how healthy your breast milk is with half of what people put in their systems and transfer to their children it is just as bad.
Quoting asaffell:

No, I'm not saying that. I am saying, however, that it is the responsibility of a product that causes harm to inform the public. And there are a lot of mothers who trust formula because they have not been given the proper information about it being so inferior to breastmilk. AND if more moms had the information right there in their hands, it would be harder to ignore.

Stupidity has nothing to do with it. Easy access to information is the point.


Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

So you are in essence saying that because there is not a label on things that means people are to stupid to do the research? Where is the label on your breast because I know mine does not have one.











Quoting asaffell:

Except that people can read labels, and make an informed decision. Without that information readily available, there is no informed choice and a mother is going off of guesses and advertising. I am so tired of people being offended by facts. 


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MaryJarrett
by Mary on Sep. 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM
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And a labelled breast, per your request. ;)
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Mom2Phoenix2011
by on Sep. 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM
I agree that there needs to be better labeling, with FDA info. My issue with the statement the woman I responded to made it seem that people are to stupid to do research and therefore buy formula for that reason. Someone who is not willing to do the research is not going to spend the time to read a can. I agree that people do eat and do things that affect the fetus that they should not. Those are the same people that will breast feed even though they do not pump for the needed time to remove it from the breastmilk.

Quoting gdiamante:

Where is the label on your vagina or belly saying your womb is the optimal environment for growing a child? After all, you can ingest things that are not good for a fetus. How are you sure you're NOT ingesting something hamrful to the fetus? By reading the labels of the products you ingest, correct? The same care applies while breastfeeding. The nice thing is that the breast DOES filter and the pregnancy restrictions are gone. Big difference between processed through the body and breast and straight from the bloodstream.

It should be noted that Annaica's article is not about US labeling. And actually, what I would want to see on a fomrula can is a label regarding the FDA's guidelines for manufacturing, including the acceptable minimums for contamination. That said, I'd want that for ALL food labels.

Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

So I will ask a third time first time for you, where is the label located on your breast to prove it. If breast was able to filter as well as you beloved no child would get anything harmful through breast milk that includes alcohol drugs preservatives. I am all for breast feeding I think all women should do it if they can. However you do not have a medical degree and therefore have to hope that those that do are right. Just remember people will find what they want to make themselves feel better.
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lazycervix
by Bronze Member on Sep. 30, 2012 at 7:35 PM
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Some women don't have access to research *aka a computer* how do you expect them to get this information? Maybe many would read the label because they don't have access to anything else.

Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

I agree that there needs to be better labeling, with FDA info. My issue with the statement the woman I responded to made it seem that people are to stupid to do research and therefore buy formula for that reason. Someone who is not willing to do the research is not going to spend the time to read a can. I agree that people do eat and do things that affect the fetus that they should not. Those are the same people that will breast feed even though they do not pump for the needed time to remove it from the breastmilk.

Quoting gdiamante:

Where is the label on your vagina or belly saying your womb is the optimal environment for growing a child? After all, you can ingest things that are not good for a fetus. How are you sure you're NOT ingesting something hamrful to the fetus? By reading the labels of the products you ingest, correct? The same care applies while breastfeeding. The nice thing is that the breast DOES filter and the pregnancy restrictions are gone. Big difference between processed through the body and breast and straight from the bloodstream.

It should be noted that Annaica's article is not about US labeling. And actually, what I would want to see on a fomrula can is a label regarding the FDA's guidelines for manufacturing, including the acceptable minimums for contamination. That said, I'd want that for ALL food labels.

Quoting Mom2Phoenix2011:

So I will ask a third time first time for you, where is the label located on your breast to prove it. If breast was able to filter as well as you beloved no child would get anything harmful through breast milk that includes alcohol drugs preservatives. I am all for breast feeding I think all women should do it if they can. However you do not have a medical degree and therefore have to hope that those that do are right. Just remember people will find what they want to make themselves feel better.


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