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Milk just came in and ??

Posted by on Dec. 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM
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I have a 3 day old and my milk came in last night and my they are so full baby can't even latch on. So I've been pumping a little before feeding him so he can latch on. My question is will my breast eventually get used to what he needs or am I going to just produce too much and always have to pump before feedings?
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annaica
by on Dec. 18, 2012 at 9:30 AM
This is normal! Usually takes about a week or so to have the engorgement go down. Keep feeding on demand and it will get better, pumping before hand is a good thing to help, I did that too :)
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mostlymaydays
by Group Admin - Stacy on Dec. 18, 2012 at 9:34 AM
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The initial engorgement is nature's way of covering the bases in case there are multiple babies. It doesn't last, unless you provide more stimulation of supply above and beyond the baby. Pump only for comfort now or hand express. Yes, it is hard for baby to latch on swollen bowling ball where nipple is flattened out.
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mostlymaydays
by Group Admin - Stacy on Dec. 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM

this might help, too. From kellymom.com:


… a technique to aid latching when a mother is engorged

Finnish  | Russian

by K. Jean Cotterman RNC, IBCLC. Reprinted with permission from the author.

More health care providers are observing that mothers receiving multiple intrapartum IV’s experience delay in expected postpartum fluid shift. Increased edema during the puerperium complicates engorgement, increases sub-areolar tissue resistance, distorts the nipple and interferes with comfortable, efficient latching. Edema may appear early, or later, within 48-96 hours, often lasting 10-14 days. (This may depend on both the quantity of IV fluid given and the time of infusion in relation to placental delivery, the stimulus for lactogenesis II.)

Reverse pressure softening (RPS) is a simple intervention that has proven very helpful in the first 14 days postpartum. RPS uses gentle positive pressure to soften a 1-2 inch area of the areola surrounding the base of the nipple, temporarily moving some swelling slightly backward and upward into the breast. RPS may be applied by the health care provider, and/or taught to the mother/significant others, if necessary, over the telephone.

Interstitial fluid volume increases 30% above normal before edema becomes visible. (Guyton) To contain edema, areolar tissues must expand, limiting their ability to extend the nipple well into the baby’s mouth. Early proactive use of RPS causes no harm and may facilitate increased milk transfer, reduce risk of nipple trauma, and help resolve engorgement.

Conversely, pumping may attract edema into the flange area, especially at maximum vacuum settings. Areolar tissue may then appear “thickened”, seeming to “bury” the subareolar ducts. Then, neither infant tongue action, fingertip expression nor the pump itself removes milk very successfully.

RPS is best performed immediately before each attempt to latch, for as many feedings as needed:

  • The mother may prefer to apply RPS herself, or the HCP, with her permission, may apply RPS.
    • facing the mother, or
    • from slightly behind the mother, reaching over her shoulders
    • or place his/her fingers over those of the mother, to reinforce pressure.
  • The firmer or more swollen the areola, the more time is needed to achieve pliability.
    • RPS often forms temporary “dimples” or “pits”, but edema soon re-enters the pits after pressure is released.
    • Positioning the mother with severe edema flat on her back during RPS delays re-entry of swelling, allowing a longer window of time for latching.
    • Firmly but gently, press steadily on the areola, right at the nipple base.
    • Pressure should not be firm enough to cause pain. Avoid discomfort with less pressure for longer intervals.
    • Press inward toward the chest wall for a full 60 seconds or longer (10-20 minutes or more if needed. This is a good time for instructions.)
  • Any finger combination may be used. (See diagrams)
    • Mothers may find short nails with curved fingertips of both hands the most effective method.
    • One-handed methods are convenient if the other hand is busy.
    • HCP’s may find straight-fingers or two-thumb methods more convenient.
      • Use the flats of two thumbs or the first several fingers on each hand lengthwise above and below the nipple, creating a 1-2 inch long depression.
      • Continue to alternate in opposite quadrants, with repeated 2 minute periods of pressure, partially overlapping the first set of pits, to keep edema displaced from the entire area at the base of the nipple.
  • After RPS, additional fingertip expression to further soften the areola is much easier, more comfortable and more productive. Creating a special niche for the chin often permits deeper latching.
Two handed, one-step method
Fingernails short, fingertips curved;
each one touching the side of nipple.
Two handed, two-step method
Using 2 or 3 straight fingers on each side, first knuckles touching nipple. Move ¼ turn. Repeat above & below nipple.
Two thumbs, two-step method (Step 1). 
Using straight thumbs, base of
thumbnail even with side of nipple.
Two thumbs, two-step method (Step 2).
Move ¼ turn. Repeat above & below nipple.
One handed “flower hold”
Fingernails short, fingertips curved,
placed where baby’s tongue will go.
(To see your areola better,
try using a hand mirror.)
Soft ring method
Cut off bottom half of an artificial nipple to place on areola to press with fingers.

 

Benefits of RPS include:

  • Steady stimulation of nerves under the areola automatically triggers the milk ejection reflex, propelling milk forward in the breast, nearly always within 1-2 minutes or less.
  • Excess interstitial fluid is temporarily moved in the direction of natural lymphatic drainage.
  • Displacing milk slightly backward into deeper ducts relieves over-distention of  subareolar ducts, reducing latch discomfort and facilitating milk transfer.
  • Areolar elasticity is freed for
    • extending the nipple more deeply into baby’s mouth
    • responding to the rippling of the tongue.

Guyton, AC, Basic Human Physiology: Normal Function and Mechanisms of Disease, 2nd Ed., W. B. Saunders Co. Philadelphia, 1977, p. 321.

Permission is hereby given to reproduce and distribute this article as long as the original wording and my authorship and credit for diagrams by Kyle Cotterman are retained. You may contact me at: mellomom@juno.com


PolishMamma2
by Marta on Dec. 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM

It will go away once your body figures out how much to make for your baby. Then as your baby gets older, and goes through growth spurts your baby will regulate your milk production. Just feed on demand.

MayFlowerMomma
by on Dec. 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Totally normal. Also wear nursing pads at night until you regulate or you will wake up soaking wet!

aehanrahan
by Group Admin - Amy on Dec. 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM
This!

Quoting mostlymaydays:

The initial engorgement is nature's way of covering the bases in case there are multiple babies. It doesn't last, unless you provide more stimulation of supply above and beyond the baby. Pump only for comfort now or hand express. Yes, it is hard for baby to latch on swollen bowling ball where nipple is flattened out.
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MethodMom
by on Dec. 18, 2012 at 11:27 PM

you are just swollen now. It will go down in a week or so. You should only have to pump for less than a minute to help with latch. That should not cause over supply. 

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