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i have 216oz in my deep freezer the only reason i do is bc my son has allergies really bad ones to foods and my dr wants me to bf until he is 3 years old in hopes that it will lessen if not get rid of his alleriges. is that to much or not enough just in case he weans how much should i have in my deep freezer?

by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM
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gumeshoe
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 8:55 PM

The bank has to pay for all the processing and testing they do to the milk before they hand it back out.

victoriangavin
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 9:24 PM
I'm gonna check with thos organization herw better


Quoting shortyali:

Yup which is why I prefer doing direct donation to moms.



Quoting victoriangavin:

Oh wow that's rediculous especially since it can be so life threatening for some babies if they don't get it






Quoting shortyali:

Yeah most milk banks charge people to get milk from them. I donated to a mom here in NY that the milk bank was going to charge her $3.50 an oz and most insurance companies wouldn't cover it. This was about 2 years ago.







Quoting victoriangavin:

I didn't know they charge, it's going to the mothers milk bank in Austin Texas










Quoting shortyali:

Are you donating to a milk bank? Did you look into going directly to a mom? I once looking into a milk bank but I do think its right the process the crap out of the milk then charge between $3-$5 an oz to parents that need it.











Quoting victoriangavin:

I'm just waiting on the paperwork to come in the mail and have to get my blood drawn.. Already started everything to donate it and will keep donating














Quoting piwife:

You can donate it.. a lot of moms would appreciate it
















Quoting victoriangavin:

Depends on how long your away from him, I have about 300oz in the freezer and don't need it...





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LucyHourglass
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 9:49 PM

TOO MUCH? there is no such thing. if you think you have too much feel free to send some my way :D haha

mamabens
by Miranda on Jan. 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM

understandable but the processing actually kills a LOT of the good stuff in the milk. I'd rather just donate it directly to a mom who needs it & I know can use it.

Quoting gumeshoe:

The bank has to pay for all the processing and testing they do to the milk before they hand it back out.


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luna321
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Yep, just saw this on kellymom-

Milk Bank FAQ: Why do HMBANA Milk Banks need to charge a processing fee for milk? August 13, 2012. Posted in: Blog Posts,Milk More Sharing Services Image courtesy of the Mothers' Milk Bank in Denver Many mothers wonder why the non-profit HMBANA human milk banks charge a fee for milk even though the milk has been donated by mothers. Laraine Lockhart Borman, IBCLC, with the Mothers’ Milk Bank in Denver, explains… The Mothers’ Milk Bank in Denver dispensed 330,000 ounces of milk to babies in 117 different cities last year. 95% of this milk went to hospitals for their preterm and sick babies. These are children who have been born up to 16 weeks early and may weigh a pound at birth. Because these babies are extremely fragile and will not survive without human milk, the donated milk they receive has a large impact. One ounce can feed a micro preemie in the neonatal intensive care unit (NICU) for a full day. The mothers of these tiny babies are many times ill themselves and making milk is difficult for them, or they start out with a good amount and are so stressed out with the condition of their baby that their milk supply suffers. Human Milk Banking Association of North America (HMBANA) banks do not charge for the milk itself, only for the processing of the milk and related overhead. Processing includes the multi step screening of the donor, including blood tests, donor tracking, pasteurization, testing and analysis of the milk. Related operational costs include rental of office space, purchase of bottles and caps, freezers, and employee payroll. Volunteers are utilized whenever possible. HMBANA Milk Banks are non-profit organizations making enough to keep doors open and continue to do the important work of helping to save babies’ lives. While the majority of the pasteurized human milk from the Mothers’ Milk Bank in Denver is sold to hospitals, milk depots also sell this life-saving nutrition to individuals. A baby with a health condition warranting the need for milk is never denied milk because of the inability to pay. Recipients always have the opportunity to apply for financial aid. by Laraine Lockhart Borman, IBCLC, Mothers’ Milk Bank, Rocky Mountain Children’s Health Foundation, Denver, CO

Quoting gumeshoe:

The bank has to pay for all the processing and testing they do to the milk before they hand it back out.


luna321
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 10:14 PM

I also saw this todayon kellymom. I donated to a milk bank-next time I might do it through eats on feets or HM4HB but I think either way is beneficial. Micro preemes need milk also

Milk Bank FAQ: Why do we need to pasteurize the milk?

August 16, 2012. Posted in: Blog Posts,Milk

Image courtesy of the Mothers' Milk Bank in Denver

Many mothers wonder why the non-profit HMBANA human milk banks pasteurize their milk. Laraine Lockhart Borman, IBCLC, with the Mothers’ Milk Bank in Denver, explains…

The HMBANA Advisory Council, a panel of experts in areas of infectious disease, microbiology, neonatology, law, and other areas, determined  that because human milk has the potential to be an agent of infectious disease, pasteurization would be required of all member banks due to the extremely fragile health of the babies receiving this milk. The number one priority is the health and safety of the tiny preterm infants served.

With any type of storage or treatment of human milk, there is some loss of its original components. Mother’s milk that has been frozen and stored experiences a loss of vitamin A from exposure to light and vitamin C from exposure to freezing temperatures. Pasteurization is a very gentle, controlled heating process using special equipment that kills viruses and bacteria while still maintaining 95% of everything that was originally in the milk. While a few of the immune properties are lost, there are many more that survive the pasteurization process. In addition, some beneficial enzymes are actually activated by the pasteurization process. *

Bottom line is that mom’s own milk is best. When this is not available, pasteurized human milk, obtained from a certified milk bank, can be a lifesaving safe and healthy alternative that everyone can feel good about.

by Laraine Lockhart Borman, IBCLC, Mothers’ Milk Bank, Rocky Mountain Children’s Health Foundation, Denver, CO

Image courtesy of the Mothers' Milk Bank in Denver

From “Donor Human Milk for Preterm Infants” (Wight 2001):

The benefits and concerns regarding the use of human milk for preterm infants has been recently reviewed, with more factors, actions, and interactions being discovered frequently… Protective effects of human milk on infection rates have been observed with the use of both fresh and pasteurized milk… 
[note: see Heiman & Schanler 2006 for a recent review]

Pasteurization (56 or 62.5°C for 30 minutes) does affect some of the nutritional, immunologic and other components of human milk. Heat treatment at 56°C (133°F) or greater for 30 minutes reliably eliminates all functional white blood cells and bacteria, inactivates human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and human T-lymphotropic virus, and decreases the titers of other viruses, but in one study did not eliminate cytomegalovirus (CMV). Holder pasteurization [62.5°C (144°F) for 30 minutes] reliably inactivates HIV and CMV, and will eliminate or significantly decrease the titers of most other viruses.

Immunologic factors are variously affected by heat treatment. With Holder pasteurization most of the secretory IgA, bifid growth factor, and lysozyme remain (0% to 30% destroyed), lipids are unaffected, but 57% of the lactoferrin, and 34% of the IgG are destroyed. The reader is referred to a more detailed recent review (Lawrence 1999).

In general, the nutritional components are altered somewhat, resulting in slightly slower growth when compared to infants fed unpasteurized raw human milk. Holder pasteurization does not appear to influence nitrogen absorption or retention in LBW infants. Most enzymes, growth factors, vitamins, and minerals are unchanged or minimally decreased. Heat treatment of donor milk appears to foster more rapid growth of intestinal epithelial cells by inactivating heat-labile inhibitory cytokines, allowing heat-stable epidermal growth factor to act. Freezing inactivates milk cells and most viruses, but does not appear to effect the nutritional or anti-infective quality of the milk. Microwaving clearly decreases the anti-infective properties of human milk; the higher the temperature, the greater the effect.


* Research: The effect of pasteurization on the anti-infective agents of human milk

Percent activity remaining after pasteurization at 62.5°C for 30 minutes (unless otherwise noted)

Cells 78% macrophages Gibbs 1977

No viable cells Liebhaber 1977
Immunoglobulins

IgA (total secretory) 39%
81% (56°C for 30 minutes)
Stephens 1980

67%
77% (62.5°C for 5 minutes)
90% (56°C for 30 minutes)
Wills 1982

67% Liebhaber 1977

67%
64% (72°C for 15 seconds)
Goldsmith 1983

78% Morgan 1986

80% Ford 1977

79% Gibbs 1977

84% Goldblum 1984

86% Raptopoulou-Gigi 1977

100% Evans 1978

150% (72°C for 15 seconds) Goldblum 1984

Some loss (stable if 56°C for 30 min) Welsh & May 1979
IgG 66% Evans 1978

86%
58% (72°C for 15 seconds)
Goldsmith 1983
IgM Substantial loss Liebhaber 1977

None Goldsmith 1983

None Ford 1977
Enzymes

Lactoperoxidase 53% Friend 1983
Lipase 45% Friend 1983
Protease 27% Friend 1983
Lysozyme 61% Friend 1983

64% Gibbs 1977

67%
96% (62.5°C for 5 min)
106% (56°C for 30 minutes)
Wills 1982

76% Evans 1978

105% Ford 1977

393% (72°C for 15 seconds) Goldblum 1984
Lactoferrin 27% Wills 1982

33% Welsh & May 1979

36% Goldsmith 1983

35% Ford 1977

43% Evans 1978

123% (72°C for 15 seconds) Goldblum 1984

56% Eyres 1978
Bile salt-stimulated lipase Lost Wardell 1984
Other

Non immunoglobulin Stable Laegreid 1986
C1 – C9 Destroyed Welsh & May 1979
L Bifidus growth factor Stable
Antimicrobial activity Stable (56°C for 30 minutes) Bullen 1972
Antiprotozoal activity Some stability Gillin 1983


See also:  Effect of heat treatment or storage on antimicrobial factors in human milk

References

Bullen JJ, Rogers HJ, Leigh L. Iron-binding proteins in milk and resistance to escherichia coli infection in infants. Brit. Med. J. 1972; i:69-75.

Evans TJ, Ryley HC, Neale LM, Dodge JA, Lewarne VM. Effect of storage and heat on antimicrobial proteins in human milk. Arch. Dis. Child. 1978; 53:239-241.

Eyres R, Elliot RB, Howie RN, Farmer K. Low temperature pasteurization of human milk. N. Z. Med. J. 1978; 87:134-135.

Ford JE, Law BA, Marshall VME, Reiter B. Influence of the heat treatment of human milk on some of its protective constituents. Pediatr. 1977; 90:29-35.

Friend BA, Shahani KM, Long CA, Agel EN. Evaluation of freeze-drying, pasteurization, high-temperature heating and storage on selected enzymes, B-vitamins and lipids of mature human milk. J. Food. Prot. 1983; 46:330-334.

Gibbs JH, Fisher C, Bhattacharya S, Goddard P, Baum JD. Drip breast milk: its composition, collection and pasteurization. Early Hum. Dev. 1977; 1:227-245.

Gillin FD, Reiner DS, Wang, C-S. Human milk kills parasitic intestinal protozoa. Science. 1983; 221:1290-1292.

Goldblum RM, Dill CW, Albrecht TB, Alford ES, Garza C, Goldman AS. Rapid high-temperature treatment of human milk. J. Pediatr. 1984; 104:380-385.

Goldsmith SJ, Dickson JS, Barnhart HM, Toledo RT, Eitenmiller RR. IgA, IgG, IgM and lactoferrin contents of human milk during early lactation and the effect of processing and storage. J. Food Prot. 1983; 46:4-7.

Heiman H, Schanler RJ. Benefits of maternal and donor human milk for premature infants. Early Hum Dev. 2006 Dec;82(12):781-7. Epub 2006 Oct 20.

Laegreid A, Kolsto Otnaess A-B, Orstavik I, Carlsen KH. Neutralizing activity in human milk fractions against respiratory syncytial virus. Acta Paediatr. Scand. 1986; 75:696-701.

Lawrence RA. Storage of human milk and the influence of procedures on immunological components of human milk. Acta Paediatr Suppl. 1999 Aug;88(430):14-8. (Review)

Liebhaber M, Lewiston NJ, Asquith MT, Olds-Arroyo L, Sunshine P.  Alterations of lymphocytes and of antibody content of human milk after processing. Pediatr. 1977; 91:897-900.

Morgan JN, Toledo RT, Eitenmiller RR, Barnhart NM, Maddox F. Thermal destruction of immunoglobulin A, lactoferrin, thiamin and folic acid in human milk. J. Food Sci. 1986; 51:348-351.

Raptopoulou-Gigi M, Marwick K, McClelland DBL. Antimicrobial proteins in sterilized human milk. Br. Med. J. 1977; 1:12-14.

Stephens S, Dolby JM, Montreuil J, Spik G. Differences in inhibition of the growth of commensal and enteropathogenic strains of escherichia coli by lactotransferrin and secretory immunoglobulin A isolated from human milk. Immunology. 1980; 41:597-603.

Wardell JM, Wright AJ, Bardsley WG, D’Souza SW. Bile salt-stimulated lipase and esterase activity in human milk after collection, storage and heating: Nutritional implications. Pediatr. Res. 1984;18:382-386.

Welsh JK, May JT. Anti-infective properties of breast milk. J Pediatr. 1979 Jan;94(1):1-9.

Wight NE. Donor human milk for preterm infants. J Perinatol. 2001 Jun;21(4):249-54.

Wills ME, Han VEM, Harris DA, Baum JD. Short-time low-temperature pasteurization of human milk. Early Hum. Dev. 1982; 7:71-80.

Quoting mamabens:

understandable but the processing actually kills a LOT of the good stuff in the milk. I'd rather just donate it directly to a mom who needs it & I know can use it.

Quoting gumeshoe:

The bank has to pay for all the processing and testing they do to the milk before they hand it back out.




Leochanning2012
by Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 1:20 AM
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I'm so glad I came across this post.I was going to go through mothers milk bank I he 350 ounces from just last month and I went on humanmilk4humanbabies an found a local mom that just started her radiation treatment last week fr breast cancer and has a six month old!I'm glad to say she is getting all 350 ounces and more in the near future!!


Quoting shortyali:

Yeah most milk banks charge people to get milk from them. I donated to a mom here in NY that the milk bank was going to charge her $3.50 an oz and most insurance companies wouldn't cover it. This was about 2 years ago.



Quoting victoriangavin:

I didn't know they charge, it's going to the mothers milk bank in Austin Texas






Quoting shortyali:

Are you donating to a milk bank? Did you look into going directly to a mom? I once looking into a milk bank but I do think its right the process the crap out of the milk then charge between $3-$5 an oz to parents that need it.







Quoting victoriangavin:

I'm just waiting on the paperwork to come in the mail and have to get my blood drawn.. Already started everything to donate it and will keep donating










Quoting piwife:

You can donate it.. a lot of moms would appreciate it












Quoting victoriangavin:

Depends on how long your away from him, I have about 300oz in the freezer and don't need it...




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gumeshoe
by on Jan. 19, 2013 at 9:29 AM

If I was going to donate it would be the non milk bank route. Because I agree with you on the killing a lot of the good stuff. And I would never have 100 oz to donate at one time. I am so bad about forgetting to pump my 2oz everyother day. Until it is a time that pumping won't work well.


Quoting mamabens:

understandable but the processing actually kills a LOT of the good stuff in the milk. I'd rather just donate it directly to a mom who needs it & I know can use it.

Quoting gumeshoe:

The bank has to pay for all the processing and testing they do to the milk before they hand it back out.




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