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Self weaning already

Posted by on Jan. 31, 2013 at 1:57 PM
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Is it possible for a baby to start self weaning at 9 1/2 months?
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norahsmommy
by Silver Member on Jan. 31, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Not unless they are getting lots of food and drink instead of nursing. It might just be that baby is getting distracted.
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mamabens
by Miranda on Jan. 31, 2013 at 2:00 PM
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No! Babies do not self wean before 1 yr of age. They do go through  nursing strikes &t his is the perfect age for it. Back off on solids & offer nursing more often & make sure when baby does get solids  make sure its only after a full nursing session.

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YzmaRocks
by Silver Member on Jan. 31, 2013 at 2:00 PM
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Nope, not without help. Feeding too many solids, not nursing before solids, flow preference if baby has bottles, nursing strike, pregnancy, are some things that could encourage early weaning.
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Precious333
by Group Mod-Julia on Jan. 31, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Yep


Quoting YzmaRocks:

Nope, not without help. Feeding too many solids, not nursing before solids, flow preference if baby has bottles, nursing strike, pregnancy, are some things that could encourage early weaning.

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IansMommy2012
by on Jan. 31, 2013 at 4:00 PM
Distractions are an everyday occurrence for us

Quoting norahsmommy:

Not unless they are getting lots of food and drink instead of nursing. It might just be that baby is getting distracted.
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IansMommy2012
by on Jan. 31, 2013 at 4:01 PM
Nursing strike again?! Ugh we just ha one of these a couple months ago :(

Quoting mamabens:

No! Babies do not self wean before 1 yr of age. They do go through  nursing strikes &t his is the perfect age for it. Back off on solids & offer nursing more often & make sure when baby does get solids  make sure its only after a full nursing session.

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IansMommy2012
by on Jan. 31, 2013 at 4:02 PM
No he doesn't receive bottles just a sippy every once in a while and he gets solids at breakfast and before bed. And sometimes a cracker (gerber) during the day is it to many?

Quoting YzmaRocks:

Nope, not without help. Feeding too many solids, not nursing before solids, flow preference if baby has bottles, nursing strike, pregnancy, are some things that could encourage early weaning.
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aehanrahan
by Group Mod - Amy on Jan. 31, 2013 at 6:15 PM
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Do you nurse before giving those solids? If your answer is no, that is the culprit. Solids should only be given immediately after nursing.
Distractions cause this as well. Babies get too busy with their ever-expanding world to be bothered with nursing. Sometimes we have to slow things down and remind them to eat.
Offer more throughout the day, try quieting things down, and be sure to always nurse before any solids are given.
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maggiemom2000
by Ruby Member on Jan. 31, 2013 at 7:15 PM
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some good info for you:

http://kellymom.com/bf/normal/babyselfwean/

Introduction

True SELF-weaning before a baby is a year old is very uncommon. In fact, it is unusual for a baby to wean before 18-24 months unless mom is encouraging weaning. However, it is very common to hear a mother say that her baby self-weaned at 9 or 10 months old, or even earlier. How do we reconcile these statements?

What is self-weaning?

A baby who is weaning on his own:

  • is typically well over a year old (more commonly over 2 years)
  • is at the point where he gets most of his nutrition from solids
  • drinks well from a cup
  • cuts down on nursing gradually

Child-led weaning occurs when a child no longer has a need to nurse – nutritionally or emotionally. The solids part should rule out self-weaning in babies under a year since, for optimum health and brain development, babies under a year should be getting most of their nutrition from breastmilk.

What factors might lead mom to think that her baby is self-weaning?

When a mother says that her baby self-weaned before a year, there is a chance that she interpreted a normal developmental stage (perhaps combined with her own wishes) as baby’s wish to wean. Low milk supply can also play a part.

Low milk supply

If mom’s milk supply is reduced, baby may become less interested in nursing, and of course decreased nursing will lead to an even lower milk supply. If milk supply is low, baby may grow to prefer a cup or bottle simply because he can get more milk this way. As long as baby is nursing on cue and removing milk thoroughly, mom’s breasts will produce the milk that baby needs. There are a number of things that might interfere with the milk production process after lactation has been established. Some factors that commonly come into play in baby’s second six months include:

  • Scheduled feedings or other things that reduce baby’s nursing frequency too much (for example, pacifier overuse or sleep training). The answer to “how much is too much?” will depend on the particular mother-baby pair. A consistent decrease in nursing frequency will signal your body to decrease milk supply.
  • Rapid weight loss. A sudden decrease in mom’s calorie intake can result in decreased milk supply.
  • Medications or herbs that reduce milk supply (hormonal contraceptives, for example).
  • Early introduction of solids (before 6 months). Besides interfering with baby’s immunologic health, solids before six months often results in baby taking less milk at the breast and thus results in a decrease in milk supply.
  • Overly rapid increase in the amounts of solids. Again, this results in baby taking too little milk at the breast and thus a decreased milk supply. Keep in mind that mom’s milk supply will naturally and gradually decrease as baby begins to eat greater quantities of solid foods – this is fine and expected. What you want to avoid is increasing solids/decreasing milk supply too quickly, as breastmilk is what baby needs for proper growth, health and brain development through the first year and beyond.

For more on milk supply, including how to increase it, see Got Milk?

Normal developmental stages

It is common and normal for babies to show less interest in breastfeeding sometime during the second six months. This is developmental and not an indication that baby wishes to stop nursing.

Older babies tend to be distractible and want to be a part of all the action around them. Your baby may be more interested in learning about the world than in eating during the day (these same babies often increase their night nursing to make up for their busy days).
If baby is being given a bottle or sippy cup frequently, he discovers that he can walk/crawl around with it and not miss a thing, whereas nursing generally requires sitting still and not looking around for a few minutes. For this reason, some babies develop a preference for the bottle or cup at this developmental stage.

Milestone times, such as crawling and walking, and stressful times like teething or illness can also cause baby to be less interested in nursing – these types of things are common in the second six months. Nursing strikes (when baby quits nursing suddenly) also tend to be more common around this age, perhaps due to the same factors.

Our society tends to produce the expectation that babies can and should become independent as quickly as possible. Babies are considered more independent when they sleep alone, sleep through the night, potty train, wean, etc., As a result, babies are often pushed toward these milestones before they are ready – emotionally or physically. Because of this societal mindset, many moms don’t even consider the idea that baby’s disinterest in breastfeeding might be temporary, but simply go ahead and wean.

This is not saying that a mother’s choice to wean a baby this age is necessarily a bad choice for her family. A mother who wishes to wean her child at this point can certainly take advantage of baby’s temporary disinterest in nursing to initiate mother-led weaning.

However, it should understand that this is not self-weaning but a temporary developmental stage. Mom is making the choice, not baby. Once mom knows that she has a choice in the matter, she can better make an informed decision of whether to wean or to seek thebenefits of continued nursing.

Tips for avoiding premature weaning

The following suggestions can be helpful in preventing baby from weaning prematurely:

Keep breastmilk primary in baby’s diet during the first year

  • If you feel that your milk supply is low, take measures to increase it.
  • Offer breastmilk first, before any solids, through at least the first year. Don’t let solids become more important than breastmilk during the first year.
  • Increase solid foods gradually. An example of a gradual increase in solids would be 25% solids at 12 months, 50% solids at 18 months, and 80% solids at 24 months.
  • Sugared drinks (and juice, too) are “empty calories” and will keep baby from feeling really hungry – limit or eliminate these. Water can also fill baby up and decrease nursing frequency. Click here for suggestions on offering water and juice.

Minimize the risk of baby developing a preference for the bottle or cup

  • Limit (or eliminate) bottles. If baby must be supplemented due to separation from mom, then only use bottles when you are physically separated from baby. Use a newborn-flow nipple, no matter how old your baby is, to reduce the risk that baby will grow to prefer the fast flow of a bottle. If baby is older than six months, seriously consider using a cup rather than a bottle.
  • Limit or eliminate pacifier use when you are with baby, so that your baby’s desire to suck encourages him to nurse more often.
  • Avoid allowing baby to walk around with bottles or sippy cups.

If baby is very busy and doesn’t want to stop and nurse

  • Try different and novel nursing positions in which he can have more control and perhaps see what’s going on around him – baby standing up, sitting on your lap facing you, etc.
  • Try singing, talking, telling stories, playing finger games, reading, etc. while nursing.
  • Try wearing a nursing necklace or bright colored scarf to help hold baby’s attention when nursing.
  • Give baby a small toy to hold and play with when nursing.

Be aware of your own subtle cues that encourage weaning

  • Offer baby the breast often; don’t wait until he “demands” to nurse. Be aware that the “don’t offer – don’t refuse” method of breastfeeding is a weaning technique.
  • Be available to nurse when baby wants to. Saying “not now, but later” is certainly part of the natural give and take of a nursing relationship as your child gets older, but don’t overuse it and don’t forget the “later” part – offer to nurse later, rather than waiting for baby to ask.
  • Diversion/distraction by mom is a weaning technique, particularly if used frequently.
  • Avoid limiting times or places for nursing. This is another weaning technique.
    • Allow baby to nurse at night if he wishes. Baby will nurse more often if he is in your room and/or bed, and many families get more sleep this way.
    • If you feel you need to phase out night nursing before baby does it on his own, then it may be helpful to make a conscious effort to increase daytime nursing.
  • Keep in close contact – carry and hold your child often. This will make breastfeeding more accessible to baby. Restricting access to nursing is a weaning technique.

Be aware of normal developmental stages

  • Pay attention to your child’s natural growth rhythms. Be aware of times that are not true weanings.

 

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IansMommy2012
by on Jan. 31, 2013 at 8:14 PM
I don't think it my milk I've been doing my best to eat more and eat better during the day. It's just he will stop nursing suddenly and not want it. :( especially at naps. Like hell just want his plug. And used to be he would want to pacify with me. Not his actual plug. Lol but now he wants his plug. He doesn't always take a plug tho. Here lately he's not even been taking his plug except to fall asleep but then he spits it out and doesn't want another thing to do with it lol
No I don't bites e before giving him solids because if I do then he won't eat anything else :/ but I do nurse on demand. If no one else is home (we live with dh's parents) then I walk around in a bra (sorry tmi) and when he wants to nurse hell come either lay in my lap or hell pull my bra aside and nurse. But when he does this I've noticed he'll switch sides about every other couple min or so. It's like e can't stay on one side and it seems he plays with it more than actually nursin
I just didn't know if I needed to start worrying iot if this was just a phase that he is goin through. Because I really want to nurse my son for a few more years :) I want him to self wean


Quoting maggiemom2000:

some good info for you:

http://kellymom.com/bf/normal/babyselfwean/

Introduction

True SELF-weaning before a baby is a year old is very uncommon. In fact, it is unusual for a baby to wean before 18-24 months unless mom is encouraging weaning. However, it is very common to hear a mother say that her baby self-weaned at 9 or 10 months old, or even earlier. How do we reconcile these statements?

What is self-weaning?

A baby who is weaning on his own:

  • is typically well over a year old (more commonly over 2 years)
  • is at the point where he gets most of his nutrition from solids
  • drinks well from a cup
  • cuts down on nursing gradually

Child-led weaning occurs when a child no longer has a need to nurse – nutritionally or emotionally. The solids part should rule out self-weaning in babies under a year since, for optimum health and brain development, babies under a year should be getting most of their nutrition from breastmilk.

What factors might lead mom to think that her baby is self-weaning?

When a mother says that her baby self-weaned before a year, there is a chance that she interpreted a normal developmental stage (perhaps combined with her own wishes) as baby’s wish to wean. Low milk supply can also play a part.

Low milk supply

If mom’s milk supply is reduced, baby may become less interested in nursing, and of course decreased nursing will lead to an even lower milk supply. If milk supply is low, baby may grow to prefer a cup or bottle simply because he can get more milk this way. As long as baby is nursing on cue and removing milk thoroughly, mom’s breasts will produce the milk that baby needs. There are a number of things that might interfere with the milk production process after lactation has been established. Some factors that commonly come into play in baby’s second six months include:

  • Scheduled feedings or other things that reduce baby’s nursing frequency too much (for example, pacifier overuse or sleep training). The answer to “how much is too much?” will depend on the particular mother-baby pair. A consistent decrease in nursing frequency will signal your body to decrease milk supply.
  • Rapid weight loss. A sudden decrease in mom’s calorie intake can result in decreased milk supply.
  • Medications or herbs that reduce milk supply (hormonal contraceptives, for example).
  • Early introduction of solids (before 6 months). Besides interfering with baby’s immunologic health, solids before six months often results in baby taking less milk at the breast and thus results in a decrease in milk supply.
  • Overly rapid increase in the amounts of solids. Again, this results in baby taking too little milk at the breast and thus a decreased milk supply. Keep in mind that mom’s milk supply will naturally and gradually decrease as baby begins to eat greater quantities of solid foods – this is fine and expected. What you want to avoid is increasing solids/decreasing milk supply too quickly, as breastmilk is what baby needs for proper growth, health and brain development through the first year and beyond.

For more on milk supply, including how to increase it, see Got Milk?

Normal developmental stages

It is common and normal for babies to show less interest in breastfeeding sometime during the second six months. This is developmental and not an indication that baby wishes to stop nursing.

Older babies tend to be distractible and want to be a part of all the action around them. Your baby may be more interested in learning about the world than in eating during the day (these same babies often increase their night nursing to make up for their busy days).
If baby is being given a bottle or sippy cup frequently, he discovers that he can walk/crawl around with it and not miss a thing, whereas nursing generally requires sitting still and not looking around for a few minutes. For this reason, some babies develop a preference for the bottle or cup at this developmental stage.

Milestone times, such as crawling and walking, and stressful times like teething or illness can also cause baby to be less interested in nursing – these types of things are common in the second six months. Nursing strikes (when baby quits nursing suddenly) also tend to be more common around this age, perhaps due to the same factors.

Our society tends to produce the expectation that babies can and should become independent as quickly as possible. Babies are considered more independent when they sleep alone, sleep through the night, potty train, wean, etc., As a result, babies are often pushed toward these milestones before they are ready – emotionally or physically. Because of this societal mindset, many moms don’t even consider the idea that baby’s disinterest in breastfeeding might be temporary, but simply go ahead and wean.

This is not saying that a mother’s choice to wean a baby this age is necessarily a bad choice for her family. A mother who wishes to wean her child at this point can certainly take advantage of baby’s temporary disinterest in nursing to initiate mother-led weaning.

However, it should understand that this is not self-weaning but a temporary developmental stage. Mom is making the choice, not baby. Once mom knows that she has a choice in the matter, she can better make an informed decision of whether to wean or to seek thebenefits of continued nursing.

Tips for avoiding premature weaning

The following suggestions can be helpful in preventing baby from weaning prematurely:

Keep breastmilk primary in baby’s diet during the first year

  • If you feel that your milk supply is low, take measures to increase it.
  • Offer breastmilk first, before any solids, through at least the first year. Don’t let solids become more important than breastmilk during the first year.
  • Increase solid foods gradually. An example of a gradual increase in solids would be 25% solids at 12 months, 50% solids at 18 months, and 80% solids at 24 months.
  • Sugared drinks (and juice, too) are “empty calories” and will keep baby from feeling really hungry – limit or eliminate these. Water can also fill baby up and decrease nursing frequency. Click here for suggestions on offering water and juice.

Minimize the risk of baby developing a preference for the bottle or cup

  • Limit (or eliminate) bottles. If baby must be supplemented due to separation from mom, then only use bottles when you are physically separated from baby. Use a newborn-flow nipple, no matter how old your baby is, to reduce the risk that baby will grow to prefer the fast flow of a bottle. If baby is older than six months, seriously consider using a cup rather than a bottle.
  • Limit or eliminate pacifier use when you are with baby, so that your baby’s desire to suck encourages him to nurse more often.
  • Avoid allowing baby to walk around with bottles or sippy cups.

If baby is very busy and doesn’t want to stop and nurse

  • Try different and novel nursing positions in which he can have more control and perhaps see what’s going on around him – baby standing up, sitting on your lap facing you, etc.
  • Try singing, talking, telling stories, playing finger games, reading, etc. while nursing.
  • Try wearing a nursing necklace or bright colored scarf to help hold baby’s attention when nursing.
  • Give baby a small toy to hold and play with when nursing.

Be aware of your own subtle cues that encourage weaning

  • Offer baby the breast often; don’t wait until he “demands” to nurse. Be aware that the “don’t offer – don’t refuse” method of breastfeeding is a weaning technique.
  • Be available to nurse when baby wants to. Saying “not now, but later” is certainly part of the natural give and take of a nursing relationship as your child gets older, but don’t overuse it and don’t forget the “later” part – offer to nurse later, rather than waiting for baby to ask.
  • Diversion/distraction by mom is a weaning technique, particularly if used frequently.
  • Avoid limiting times or places for nursing. This is another weaning technique.
    • Allow baby to nurse at night if he wishes. Baby will nurse more often if he is in your room and/or bed, and many families get more sleep this way.
    • If you feel you need to phase out night nursing before baby does it on his own, then it may be helpful to make a conscious effort to increase daytime nursing.
  • Keep in close contact – carry and hold your child often. This will make breastfeeding more accessible to baby. Restricting access to nursing is a weaning technique.

Be aware of normal developmental stages

  • Pay attention to your child’s natural growth rhythms. Be aware of times that are not true weanings.

 

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