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8 week old eating less

Posted by on Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM
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so my daughter is 8 1/2 weeks old and she is usually a grazer who stays on my boob nearly all day in between crying fits of colic. this past week she seems to be eating less often, and I am guessing less as I am getting engorged. is this normal for the age? she seems satisfied and pees a lot but not pooping, had to give her suppositories twice cause she was full and uncomfortable I could tell. is it GI upset reducing her intake or is she just getting more efficient?


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melindabelcher
by mel on Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM
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I.would be hesitant to give supp to a bf baby as it's almost impossible for them to become constipated. Group record of no poop is over 20 days



babys become more efflicient and can get more milk in less time as they get older.
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ceckyl
by Kyla on Feb. 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM
She's not constipated unless you are also giving formula
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Sunflower_rn
by on Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM

trust me her stomach was twice the norm circumference, hard, she screamed if I tried to massage it which is what we do for gas and colic. I am a nurse and have seen constipated, I waited cause I also know bf babies don't usually get constipated. she gets no formula just her Vit d. 

K8wizzo
by Kate on Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:04 PM

When she does poop, what does it look like?  Unless it's hard pellets, it's not constipation and there is NO need for suppositories--that will actually make the problem worse.  How old is she? (title says 8 months, post says weeks)

Sunflower_rn
by on Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:11 PM

sorry 8 1/2 weeks green poop,watery/ mucous and I was surprised and I gave her one this week and one last with 7 day span between not like I am pumping them into her. but her belly is still very distended and her input has gone down by almost half

K8wizzo
by Kate on Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:16 PM
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Does this sound familiar?  If she's getting a lot of milk quickly, she just might not need to nurse as long.

Forceful Let-down (Milk Ejection Reflex) & Oversupply

AUGUST 20, 2011. Posted in: SUPPLY WORRIES

By Kelly Bonyata, BS, IBCLC

 Is forceful let-down the problem?

Does your baby do any of these things?

  • Gag, choke, strangle, gulp, gasp, cough while nursing as though the milk is coming too fast
  • Pull off the breast often while nursing
  • Clamp down on the nipple at let-down to slow the flow of milk
  • Make a clicking sound when nursing
  • Spit up very often and/or tend to be very gassy
  • Periodically refuse to nurse
  • Dislike comfort nursing in general

If some of this sounds familiar to you, you probably have a forceful let-down. This is often associated with too much milk (oversupply). Some mothers notice that the problems with fast letdown or oversupply don’t start until 3-6 weeks of age. Forceful let-down runs the gamut from a minor inconvenience to a major problem, depending upon how severe it is and how it affects the nursing relationship.

What can I do about it?

There are essentially two ways you can go about remedying a forceful let-down: (1) help baby deal with the fast flow and (2) take measures to adjust your milk supply down to baby’s needs. Since forceful let-down is generally a byproduct of oversupply, most moms will be working on both of these things. It may take a couple of weeks to see results from interventions for oversupply, so try to be patient and keep working on it.

Help baby deal with the fast milk flow

  • Position baby so that she is nursing “uphill” in relation to mom’s breast, where gravity is working againstthe flow of milk. The most effective positions are those where baby’s head and throat are above the level of your nipple. Some nursing positions to try:
    • Cradle hold, but with mom leaning back (a recliner or lots of pillows helps)
    • Football hold, but with mom leaning back
    • Elevated football hold – like the football hold, but baby is sitting up and facing mom to nurse instead of lying down (good for nursing in public).
    • Side lying position – this allows baby to dribble the extra milk out of her mouth when it’s coming too fast
    • Australian position (mom is “down under”, aka posture feeding) – in this position, mom is lying on her back and baby is on top (facing down), tummy to tummy with mom. Avoid using this positioning frequently, as it may lead to plugged ducts.
  • Burp baby frequently if she is swallowing a lot of air.
  • Nurse more frequently. This will reduce the amount of milk that accumulates between feedings, so feedings are more manageable for baby.
  • Nurse when baby is sleepy and relaxed. Baby will suck more gently at this time, and the milk flow will be slower.
  • Wait until let-down occurs, then take baby off the breast while at the same time catching the milk in a towel or cloth diaper. Once the flow slows, you can put your baby back to the breast.
  • Pump or hand express until the flow of milk slows down, and then put baby to the breast. Use this only if nothing else is working, as it stimulates additional milk production. If you do this, try to express a little less milk each time until you are no longer expressing before nursing.

Adjust your supply to better match baby’s needs

  • If baby is gaining weight well, then having baby nurse from only one breast per feeding can be helpful.
  • If baby finishes nursing on the first side and wants to continue nursing, just put baby back onto the first side.
  • If the second side becomes uncomfortable, express a little milk until you’re more comfortable and then use cool compresses – aim for expressing less milk each time until you are comfortable without expressing milk.
  • Avoid extra breast stimulation, for example, unnecessary pumping, running the shower on your breasts for a long time or wearing breast shells.
  • Between feedings, try applying cool compresses to the breast (on for 30 minutes, off for at least an hour). This can discourage blood flow and milk production.
  • If nursing one side per feeding is not working after a week or so, try keeping baby to one side for a certain period of time before switching sides. This is called block nursing.
  • Start with 2-3 hours and increase in half-hour increments if needed.
  • Do not restrict nursing at all, but any time that baby needs to nurse simply keep putting baby back to the same side during that time period.
  • If the second side becomes uncomfortable, express a little milk until you’re more comfortable and then use cool compresses – aim for expressing less milk each time until you are comfortable without expressing milk.
  • In more extreme cases, mom may need to experiment a bit with time periods over 4 hours to find the amount of time per breast that works best.
  • Additional measures that should only be used for extreme cases of oversupply include cabbage leaf compresses and herbs.

Even if these measures do not completely solve the problem, many moms find that their abundant supply and fast let-down will subside, at least to some extent, by about 12 weeks (give or take a bit). At this point, hormonal changes occur that make milk supply more stable and more in line with the amount of milk that baby needs.

Sometimes babies of moms with oversupply or fast let-down get very used to the fast flow and object when it normally slows somewhere between 3 weeks to 3 months. Even though your let-down may not be truly slow, it can still seem that way to baby. See Let-down Reflex: Too Slow?for tips.

 

 Additional Information

Too Much Milk? by Becky Flora, IBCLC

Oversupply by Kathy Kuhn, IBCLC

Tips for taming a monster milk supply by Kathy Kuhn, IBCLC

Gaining, Gulping, and Grimacing? by Diane Wiessinger, MS, IBCLC

Oversupply: Too Much Milk by Anne Smith, IBCLC

Colic in the Breastfed Baby by Jack Newman MD, FRCPC

Am I making too much milk? from La Leche League International

Fighting the Battle Against Oversupply  by Vanessa Manz

Finish the First Breast First by Melissa Vickers (LEAVEN, September-October 1995, p. 69-71)

Overactive Let-Down: Consequences and Treatments by Mary Jozwiak (from LEAVEN, September-October 1995, pp. 71-72)

Common Side Effects of an Overactive Let-Down by Mary Jozwiak (from LEAVEN, September-October 1995, p. 69)

Too Much of a Good Thing by Kate Drzycimski, from New Beginnings Vol. 19 No. 9, July-August 2002, p. 129.

PDF Resolution of Lactose Intolerance and “Colic” in Breastfed Babies by Robyn Noble & Anne Bovey, presented at the ALCA Vic (Melbourne) Conference on the 1st November, 1997

Sunflower_rn
by on Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:17 PM
I also had major oversupply which I had gotten under control til now since she is eating less.
K8wizzo
by Kate on Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Is she still wetting enough?  Have you looked into a possible dairy allergy or intolerance?  Does she have eczema or nasal congestion?

gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Eating less is fine. The need for suppositories are the only alarming thing here. It's possible baby is having a bad reaction to something in your diet, most likely dairy from your description. You'd have to cut dairy from your diet completely; it will take several weeks to get it all out of your system.

Sunflower_rn
by on Feb. 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM


yes been off of dairy for over a month, she has reflux and colic so we figured maybe she had a milk protein allergy. no eczema but some nasal congestion. yes she pees ALOY LOL I GO THROUGH 40 diapers in 2-3 days!


Quoting K8wizzo:

Is she still wetting enough?  Have you looked into a possible dairy allergy or intolerance?  Does she have eczema or nasal congestion?



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