pyloric stenosis/newborn vomiting

[Mrs.Salz]

DS is 13 days old and started throwing up 2-3x/day about three days ago. It's different from regular spitting up - he kind of gags for a few seconds (for comparison, it looks and sounds similar to what a cat does before vomiting) and then throws up forcefully. He'll fuss for a few seconds and then seems unbothered.

Weight gain and diapers are great, he's generally content, and he doesn't have any other symptoms (at least yet) that would indicate pyloric stenosis.

Just wondering if anyone has experienced this before? Everything I'm reading about throwing up is pointing to pyloric stenosis but since he doesn't have any other symptoms, I'm not sure that's the issue.

[emmy526]

my dd did that too...it was diagnosed as reflux

[BabyPink07]

Pyloric would be present from birth, and a sign would be projectile vomiting. If he's gaining and good dipes, I think it sounds more like reflux :)

[MusherMaggie]

Could also be symptoms of overactive letdown/oversupply. Especially since weight gain and diapers are good and he doesn't seem to be in pain. Look up overactive letdown on kellymom.com and see if any of that sounds familiar.

[gdiamante]

When does the gagging happen? Right after a feeding? If so, very likely it's nothingmore than overactive letdown... when your milk flows so forcefully baby gets too much and tosses it up. Since the weight gain is good. I'd cross off reflix and pyloric stenosis and make one very simple change: Nurse leaning back. Baby gets positioned tummy to tummy with you, mouth OVER the breast. This lets gravity handle the flow of the milk. And takes care of tummy time.

[Mrs.Salz]

It's usually several minutes after a nursing - he'll gag and heave two or three times and throw up immediately after. This morning it went flying out of his mouth like a fountain.

Can you have OAL without leaking or milk pouring out as soon as baby unlatches? I've never thought I had it.

I've usually been nursing leaning back or with baby in an upright position.

Quoting gdiamante:

When does the gagging happen? Right after a feeding? If so, very likely it's nothingmore than overactive letdown... when your milk flows so forcefully baby gets too much and tosses it up. Since the weight gain is good. I'd cross off reflix and pyloric stenosis and make one very simple change: Nurse leaning back. Baby gets positioned tummy to tummy with you, mouth OVER the breast. This lets gravity handle the flow of the milk. And takes care of tummy time.

[Mrs.Salz]

Thanks, I did some more reading since I posted this and it does seem more like reflux.

Quoting BabyPink07:

Pyloric would be present from birth, and a sign would be projectile vomiting. If he's gaining and good dipes, I think it sounds more like reflux :)

[gdiamante]

It's less likely but still possible. SInce you're already using the upright positioning, though, that takes us back around to reflux.

Although.... have you looked at dairy as an issue?

Quoting Mrs.Salz:

It's usually several minutes after a nursing - he'll gag and heave two or three times and throw up immediately after. This morning it went flying out of his mouth like a fountain.

Can you have OAL without leaking or milk pouring out as soon as baby unlatches? I've never thought I had it.

I've usually been nursing leaning back or with baby in an upright position.

Quoting gdiamante:

When does the gagging happen? Right after a feeding? If so, very likely it's nothingmore than overactive letdown... when your milk flows so forcefully baby gets too much and tosses it up. Since the weight gain is good. I'd cross off reflix and pyloric stenosis and make one very simple change: Nurse leaning back. Baby gets positioned tummy to tummy with you, mouth OVER the breast. This lets gravity handle the flow of the milk. And takes care of tummy time.

[Mrs.Salz]

Yes, I've actually done a bunch more reading since I posted this while barely awake at 5 am :) I'm going to eliminate dairy and am looking into craniosacral therapy and homeopathy to see if that helps first.

Quoting gdiamante:

It's less likely but still possible. SInce you're already using the upright positioning, though, that takes us back around to reflux.

Although.... have you looked at dairy as an issue?

Quoting Mrs.Salz:

It's usually several minutes after a nursing - he'll gag and heave two or three times and throw up immediately after. This morning it went flying out of his mouth like a fountain.

Can you have OAL without leaking or milk pouring out as soon as baby unlatches? I've never thought I had it.

I've usually been nursing leaning back or with baby in an upright position.

Quoting gdiamante:

When does the gagging happen? Right after a feeding? If so, very likely it's nothingmore than overactive letdown... when your milk flows so forcefully baby gets too much and tosses it up. Since the weight gain is good. I'd cross off reflix and pyloric stenosis and make one very simple change: Nurse leaning back. Baby gets positioned tummy to tummy with you, mouth OVER the breast. This lets gravity handle the flow of the milk. And takes care of tummy time.

[FebPenguins]

I'd look at chiropratic. Is that the same as craniosacral therpy?

[Mrs.Salz]

They're similar. Chiropractic focuses on the spine and CST focuses on the skull.

Quoting FebPenguins:

I'd look at chiropratic. Is that the same as craniosacral therpy?