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Lip tie

Posted by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 4:18 AM
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This is my 7mth old. It feels like a tongue tie also. Her dr. barley checked it out (granted were more concerned with her eyes but still...), for got to say anything, then called to say ”I don't see a big deal, esp since its not really interfering with her nursing” and that was that. Any thoughts?
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MommyO2-6631
by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 6:35 AM
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Most doctors only want to clip if it's causing a problems with nursing or speech. I WISH I could find someone to clip my sons tongue because he kills my nipples. It also affects eating solids. He can't move the food around his mouth the way he needs to mush it and sometimes gags or chokes :/
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by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 9:40 AM
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Terpsichore
by Bronze Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 11:12 AM

There are other recent posts regarding lip tie and tongue tie, you might find some information there.

MusherMaggie
by Ruby Member on Mar. 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM
Kellymom.com has an excellent article on ties. They may not cause a problem in the beginning, especially if mom has an oversupply. Once the supply regulates if milk is not being properly transferred by the baby from breast to mouth, slow in weight gain and lowered supply can occur.
maggiemom2000
by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 10:38 PM


Quoting MommyO2-6631:

Most doctors only want to clip if it's causing a problems with nursing or speech. I WISH I could find someone to clip my sons tongue because he kills my nipples. It also affects eating solids. He can't move the food around his mouth the way he needs to mush it and sometimes gags or chokes :/

Have you checked this list for someone in your area?

http://www.lowmilksupply.org/frenotomy.shtml

The following surgeons and practioners are reported by mothers and lactation professionals to be adept at frenotomies for both anterior and posterior tongue tie.

maggiemom2000
by on Mar. 8, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Lip tie and Posterior tongue tie often go hand in hand.

Some info for you:

Breastfeeding a Baby with Lip and Posterior Tongue Ties

Today I have a guest post from a mom, Diane Coombs of New Foundland, Canada, who shares her story on breastfeeding a baby with lip and tongue tie.

My baby girl is nine months old today! Our breastfeeding relationship got off to a rough start because of an undiagnosed posterior tongue tie and lip tie. The pediatrician in the hospital did not diagnose her, neither did our LC nor family doctor. I was told over and over it was 'poor latch' or thrush or 'lazy feeder.' All were incorrect. 

Scarlett was gagging, coughing, extremely gassy, and she 'clicked' with each suck, my poor nipples were being crushed and so badly abraded my daughter would spit up blood after feeding. Nursing was making her so tired, she was sleeping through feeds to conserve calories, and was losing weight in a vicious cycle. 

I researched what could be causing our issues, trusting my gut that there was something more wrong besides the diagnosis given. I went to a LLL meeting and met a mom whose story matched mine. She was unable to get her son treated locally so she went to see Dr. Kotlow, a pediatric dentist in Albany, NY - the leading expert in the field of tongue and lip tie. Immediately I got in touch with Dr. Kotlow. He diagnosed the problem via pictures I sent him, and I quickly booked our flight: 1500 miles from Eastern Canada to Albany. She was treated (laser revision) and immediately, she latched PERFECTLY! 

I am not saying each baby with latch issues is tongue or lip tied, (and not every baby with a lip and/or tongue tie has trouble breastfeeding) but if you are having problems, and seem to have no answers - research it and see if tongue tie (especially POSTERIOR tongue tie) and/or lip tie is the issue. Here are some places to start:

The Hidden Causes of Feeding Problems?

Posterior Tongue Tie Information





Self Help for tongue tie and latch (photos and descriptions which may help you find tongue tie yourself, plus tips on improving latch)

Breastfeeding with an upper labial tie (lip tie)

Trouble Breastfeeding? Look in your baby's mouth. (Overcoming lip and tongue tie with an older baby)

To share with a reluctant provider: The American Academy of Pediatrics' newsletter on tongue tie and breastfeeding

I hope you don't have to jump through as many hoops as we did, and I hope you have someone closer to you who is an expert in the field. See the list of frenotomy surgeons here to find one near you: http://www.lowmilksupply.org/frenotomy.shtml

Cheers, and happy breastfeeding! 

She's about 7.5 months here. 


WARNING ON NEXT PIC: Post revision scar of the lip tie - might make some squeamish! Before's on the left, after's on the right. The whole look of her face changed! The before pics were takes two weeks before the after. 


Her posterior tongue tie - very hard to diagnose unless you know what to look for. 

Here is a video on finding a posterior tongue tie:
If you need help with breastfeeding, or suspect your baby has a tongue or lip tie, a Breastfeeding Counselor La Leche League LeaderNursing Mother’s Counsel or International Board Certified Lactation Consultant may be able to help.

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