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Looking for help for a friend :) update w weights

Posted by on May. 5, 2013 at 2:05 AM
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Her baby just turned one month and still isnt at birthweight :s shes determined to breastfeed but is getting really discouraged with everyone telling her to supplement. Baby has lots of diapers and seems to nurse well, but is pretty scrawny looking. are there any websites or any other suggestions? I told her about kelly mom. She didnt have a c section or iv fluids
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aehanrahan
by Group Mod - Amy on May. 5, 2013 at 2:48 AM
What was the birth weight? If 10% of birth weight is more than 12 ounces, then I wouldn't expect baby to be back to birth weight yet.
LLLi.org I don't know the website, but Dr. Jack Newman is an IBCLC and will answer emails and is very active on Facebook. He posted something about newborn weight loss that was awesome.
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sleepymommy87
by on May. 5, 2013 at 2:57 AM
My dd gained so slow and always looked lean from birth. Nursed like a champ just never got roly or chubby like my friends babies. She was 7lb 10oz at birth and is now 15 months and barely 21 lbs. If baby is getting enough diapers and eating frequently, i personally wouldn't worry what the scale says. What did women do before scales were invented?
gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on May. 5, 2013 at 3:04 AM

Let's get a weight history, and info on her nursing management. If she's not nursing on demand, she needs to be. No timing AT ALL.

The dipes sound good so likely she's FINE. People have a tendency to call babies scrawny when they're anything BUT.

marilyn623
by Member on May. 5, 2013 at 1:46 PM
She was born 6 lb 5 apr 8th, at 2 weeks was her lowest at 5 lb 9 and day before yesterday she was 5 15. She looks really healthy but shes got super spindly legs. She feeds on demand but shes realllly hard to wake up if she tries to feed her when shes not grumpy.
She saw an awful dr because the widwife found a heart murmor so they had to get in right away and she was going on and in about how her brain wont develop and to put her on formula :/ she tried supplementing donor milk with a sns but said that when she did that it made baby kind of a lazy eater


Quoting gdiamante:

Let's get a weight history, and info on her nursing management. If she's not nursing on demand, she needs to be. No timing AT ALL.

The dipes sound good so likely she's FINE. People have a tendency to call babies scrawny when they're anything BUT.


gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on May. 5, 2013 at 7:39 PM


Quoting marilyn623:

She was born 6 lb 5 apr 8th, at 2 weeks was her lowest at 5 lb 9
She was still losing at two weeks? Usually at that point they're on the upswing.
and day before yesterday she was 5 15.
Six ounces in two weeks is less than we should be seeing. Eight ounces is what I'd be looking for at minimum, so I'd be looking for her to be 6/1 at least.
She looks really healthy but shes got super spindly legs. She feeds on demand but shes realllly hard to wake up if she tries to feed her when shes not grumpy.
She saw an awful dr because the widwife found a heart murmor so they had to get in right away and she was going on and in about how her brain wont develop and to put her on formula :/ she tried supplementing donor milk with a sns but said that when she did that it made baby kind of a lazy eater
She should find another doctor. Heart issues change the game markedly. With that information, I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with the advice to supplement. It doesn't need to be all or nothing.
marilyn623
by Member on May. 5, 2013 at 7:58 PM
Darn :( I dont know anything about heart murmurs or how they relate to breastfeeding.
The dr didnt seem too concerned with it, just worried about the lack of gain.


Quoting gdiamante:


Quoting marilyn623:

She was born 6 lb 5 apr 8th, at 2 weeks was her lowest at 5 lb 9
She was still losing at two weeks? Usually at that point they're on the upswing.
and day before yesterday she was 5 15.
Six ounces in two weeks is less than we should be seeing. Eight ounces is what I'd be looking for at minimum, so I'd be looking for her to be 6/1 at least.
She looks really healthy but shes got super spindly legs. She feeds on demand but shes realllly hard to wake up if she tries to feed her when shes not grumpy.

She saw an awful dr because the widwife found a heart murmor so they had to get in right away and she was going on and in about how her brain wont develop and to put her on formula :/ she tried supplementing donor milk with a sns but said that when she did that it made baby kind of a lazy eater
She should find another doctor. Heart issues change the game markedly. With that information, I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with the advice to supplement. It doesn't need to be all or nothing.

K8wizzo
by Kate on May. 5, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Babies with heart problems (depending on what they are) can tire easily and either expend more calories while eating than a typical baby or get worn out before they've gotten enough milk--both of which can cause low weight gain.  I'm inclined to agree with the supplementing advice for now.  It needn't be a forever situation and she doesn't need to switch entirely, but 0.5-1 oz of donor milk or formula via sns at a few feedings a day would be a good place to start.

Quoting marilyn623:

Darn :( I dont know anything about heart murmurs or how they relate to breastfeeding.
The dr didnt seem too concerned with it, just worried about the lack of gain.


Quoting gdiamante:


Quoting marilyn623:

She was born 6 lb 5 apr 8th, at 2 weeks was her lowest at 5 lb 9
She was still losing at two weeks? Usually at that point they're on the upswing.
and day before yesterday she was 5 15.
Six ounces in two weeks is less than we should be seeing. Eight ounces is what I'd be looking for at minimum, so I'd be looking for her to be 6/1 at least.
She looks really healthy but shes got super spindly legs. She feeds on demand but shes realllly hard to wake up if she tries to feed her when shes not grumpy.

She saw an awful dr because the widwife found a heart murmor so they had to get in right away and she was going on and in about how her brain wont develop and to put her on formula :/ she tried supplementing donor milk with a sns but said that when she did that it made baby kind of a lazy eater
She should find another doctor. Heart issues change the game markedly. With that information, I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with the advice to supplement. It doesn't need to be all or nothing.


stepconfused182
by Kelley on May. 5, 2013 at 8:26 PM
Do you know anything else about the murmur? Was it transitional or innocent? Was the dr she saw a pediatric cardiologist or a pediatrician? If she wasn't referred to a specialist this would lead me to believe the murmur was innocent or transitional. This wouldnt cause any problems with fatigue or weight gain. Has she been checked for a tongue tie?

Quoting marilyn623:

Darn :( I dont know anything about heart murmurs or how they relate to breastfeeding.

The dr didnt seem too concerned with it, just worried about the lack of gain.




Quoting gdiamante:


Quoting marilyn623:

She was born 6 lb 5 apr 8th, at 2 weeks was her lowest at 5 lb 9
She was still losing at two weeks? Usually at that point they're on the upswing.
and day before yesterday she was 5 15.
Six ounces in two weeks is less than we should be seeing. Eight ounces is what I'd be looking for at minimum, so I'd be looking for her to be 6/1 at least.
She looks really healthy but shes got super spindly legs. She feeds on demand but shes realllly hard to wake up if she tries to feed her when shes not grumpy.


She saw an awful dr because the widwife found a heart murmor so they had to get in right away and she was going on and in about how her brain wont develop and to put her on formula :/ she tried supplementing donor milk with a sns but said that when she did that it made baby kind of a lazy eater
She should find another doctor. Heart issues change the game markedly. With that information, I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with the advice to supplement. It doesn't need to be all or nothing.

marilyn623
by Member on May. 6, 2013 at 12:22 AM
No tongue tie according to the midwife. She saw a regular pedi, I go there too and they refer you to a specailist if your kid has more than a cold. They" specialize in well children"
I really wish there were better drs around here


Quoting stepconfused182:

Do you know anything else about the murmur? Was it transitional or innocent? Was the dr she saw a pediatric cardiologist or a pediatrician? If she wasn't referred to a specialist this would lead me to believe the murmur was innocent or transitional. This wouldnt cause any problems with fatigue or weight gain. Has she been checked for a tongue tie?



Quoting marilyn623:

Darn :( I dont know anything about heart murmurs or how they relate to breastfeeding.


The dr didnt seem too concerned with it, just worried about the lack of gain.






Quoting gdiamante:


Quoting marilyn623:

She was born 6 lb 5 apr 8th, at 2 weeks was her lowest at 5 lb 9
She was still losing at two weeks? Usually at that point they're on the upswing.
and day before yesterday she was 5 15.
Six ounces in two weeks is less than we should be seeing. Eight ounces is what I'd be looking for at minimum, so I'd be looking for her to be 6/1 at least.
She looks really healthy but shes got super spindly legs. She feeds on demand but shes realllly hard to wake up if she tries to feed her when shes not grumpy.



She saw an awful dr because the widwife found a heart murmor so they had to get in right away and she was going on and in about how her brain wont develop and to put her on formula :/ she tried supplementing donor milk with a sns but said that when she did that it made baby kind of a lazy eater
She should find another doctor. Heart issues change the game markedly. With that information, I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with the advice to supplement. It doesn't need to be all or nothing.


stepconfused182
by Kelley on May. 6, 2013 at 10:17 AM

 Since the pediatrician did not refer her to a cardiologist, then I am assuming the murmur is innocent. Otherwise, an EKG and echo would have been ordered. An innocent murmur is not a heart defect. It is not a problem and doesn't need to be corrected. This would NOT cause slow gain and fatigue. When is her next appointment? I would be inclined to hold off on supplementing until her next weight check. Does baby have any other symptoms of a heart defect when nursing? This would be excessive sweating, shortness of breath, lips turning blue.

Quoting marilyn623:

No tongue tie according to the midwife. She saw a regular pedi, I go there too and they refer you to a specailist if your kid has more than a cold. They" specialize in well children"
I really wish there were better drs around here


Quoting stepconfused182:

Do you know anything else about the murmur? Was it transitional or innocent? Was the dr she saw a pediatric cardiologist or a pediatrician? If she wasn't referred to a specialist this would lead me to believe the murmur was innocent or transitional. This wouldnt cause any problems with fatigue or weight gain. Has she been checked for a tongue tie?



Quoting marilyn623:

Darn :( I dont know anything about heart murmurs or how they relate to breastfeeding.


The dr didnt seem too concerned with it, just worried about the lack of gain.






Quoting gdiamante:

 

Quoting marilyn623:

She was born 6 lb 5 apr 8th, at 2 weeks was her lowest at 5 lb 9
She was still losing at two weeks? Usually at that point they're on the upswing.
and day before yesterday she was 5 15.
Six ounces in two weeks is less than we should be seeing. Eight ounces is what I'd be looking for at minimum, so I'd be looking for her to be 6/1 at least.
She looks really healthy but shes got super spindly legs. She feeds on demand but shes realllly hard to wake up if she tries to feed her when shes not grumpy.



She saw an awful dr because the widwife found a heart murmor so they had to get in right away and she was going on and in about how her brain wont develop and to put her on formula :/ she tried supplementing donor milk with a sns but said that when she did that it made baby kind of a lazy eater
She should find another doctor. Heart issues change the game markedly. With that information, I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with the advice to supplement. It doesn't need to be all or nothing.


 

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