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Posted by on Aug. 20, 2013 at 8:54 AM
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My son was born during the night on 8/17/13. He is not even 60 hours old. We didn't get to nurse for the first time until he was almost 12 hours old due to some complications but he took to it immediately and everything seemed fine. Them Sunday night he became jaundiced and needed to go under the bili-lights. They continued to let me take him out to nurse when he shows signs of hunger. Well the last couple of feelings it seems like he's not satisfied and he's wanting to nurse a lot longer/more often. My breasts still feel empty. I know these things can be normal but the nurses are starting to push me to supplement after feelings to keep him under the lights longer and I'm starting to get worried about not having my milk in yet. I just need some moms to reassure me that 1-it's normal that he's acting like he's starving all the time right now and 2- that I don't have "milk" yet.

Thanks ladies
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gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on Aug. 20, 2013 at 9:01 AM


Quoting ajnreidsmama:

My son was born during the night on 8/17/13.
Hey, that's my son's birthday! Congratulations!
He is not even 60 hours old. We didn't get to nurse for the first time until he was almost 12 hours old due to some complications but he took to it immediately and everything seemed fine.
OK.
Them Sunday night he became jaundiced and needed to go under the bili-lights. They continued to let me take him out to nurse when he shows signs of hunger.
Good.
Well the last couple of feelings it seems like he's not satisfied
DELETE that last word from your vocabulary. Healthy babies don't seem satisfied. **grin**
and he's wanting to nurse a lot longer/more often.
EXCELLENT! That's what he SHOULD be doing. Helps drive the jaundice out.
My breasts still feel empty.
They're supposed to.
I know these things can be normal but the nurses are starting to push me to supplement after feelings to keep him under the lights longer
Nope. They're trying to proloing the problem. Please have them send an IBCLC. Not an LC, IBCLC.
and I'm starting to get worried about not having my milk in yet.
Takes up to six days for milk to arrive. He only needs colostrum and likely doesn't need to be under the lights for another minute. What's the bili count.
I just need some moms to reassure me that 1-it's normal that he's acting like he's starving all the time right now and 2- that I don't have "milk" yet.

Thanks ladies

You're textbook perfect. I'd consider signing out AMA.

gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on Aug. 20, 2013 at 9:03 AM

By the wya, you should know that babies with problem jaundice DON'T want to nurse so much... they just sleep.

The breastmilk pushes out the meconium which causes the jaundice. Not nursing would be the WORST thing you could do. Supplementing DOES NOT HELP.

From Dr Jay Gordon, MD, FAAP, IBCLC:

Jaundice in Newborns

Q. Can you give me the latest information on what the acceptable levels of jaundice are for a newborn before they need to be on bili lights? Our last doctor had our baby on the bili lights at home for levels of 17-18 but I have heard that that has changed. I’m currently pregnant and would love to successfully breastfeed and I think staying away from the lights would help.

A. Healthy full term babies are probably not threatened by bilirubins under 30 or more.

There has been a recent news release about the dangers of jaundice and it is filled with some of the worst science reportage I have seen in a long time. If your new baby is born near term, healthy, breastfeeding well and looking good, there is no need to draw blood and certainly no need to worry about a day three bili of 18. Jaundice can be a sign of poor breastfeeding and warrants attention not blood tests!

crazy4u49033
by Member on Aug. 20, 2013 at 9:07 AM
I was 'encouraged' to supplement with my first and not knowing better I gave in. Just keep nursing! As long ad he is having wets and poopy diapers you are doing well! Keep at it and his levels will drop as needed.
ajnreidsmama
by Jess on Aug. 20, 2013 at 9:59 AM

 Thank you so much for everything you said. It definetely helped me feel so much better. They scared me about the jaundice because they said it is due to a blood type incompatibility. I am O+ and Bennett is A+ so they said my blood is basically fighting his and breaking it down and that it can cause brain issues. I will stick to my guns though and not let them supplement. He is already way less yellow than he was on Sunday. I am waiting to find out what his levels are today but they were only 9.0 yesterday which is nowhere near 30. He was having lots of poops the last two days and several pees also, so I know hes obviously getting something (He even spit up a tiny bit of colostrum on one occasion!) I tend to beat myself up a bit but it helps to hear somebody else saying things are going the way they are supposed to. Thank you again!

Quoting gdiamante:

By the wya, you should know that babies with problem jaundice DON'T want to nurse so much... they just sleep.

The breastmilk pushes out the meconium which causes the jaundice. Not nursing would be the WORST thing you could do. Supplementing DOES NOT HELP.

From Dr Jay Gordon, MD, FAAP, IBCLC:

 

Jaundice in Newborns

Q. Can you give me the latest information on what the acceptable levels of jaundice are for a newborn before they need to be on bili lights? Our last doctor had our baby on the bili lights at home for levels of 17-18 but I have heard that that has changed. I’m currently pregnant and would love to successfully breastfeed and I think staying away from the lights would help.

A. Healthy full term babies are probably not threatened by bilirubins under 30 or more.

There has been a recent news release about the dangers of jaundice and it is filled with some of the worst science reportage I have seen in a long time. If your new baby is born near term, healthy, breastfeeding well and looking good, there is no need to draw blood and certainly no need to worry about a day three bili of 18. Jaundice can be a sign of poor breastfeeding and warrants attention not blood tests!

 

collinsmommy0
by Gold Member on Aug. 20, 2013 at 10:00 AM
Normal. Also normal? Not wanting to nurse much in the first two days.

Congrats!
ajnreidsmama
by Jess on Aug. 20, 2013 at 10:01 AM

 Thank you. I will not give up or give into them. I dont need to ruin my breastfeeding relationship over one or two days! I think his levels have already dropped dramatically. I am interested to see his numbers from today.

Quoting crazy4u49033:

I was 'encouraged' to supplement with my first and not knowing better I gave in. Just keep nursing! As long ad he is having wets and poopy diapers you are doing well! Keep at it and his levels will drop as needed.

 

ajnreidsmama
by Jess on Aug. 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

 Thank you! Congratulations to you as well!!

Quoting collinsmommy0:

Normal. Also normal? Not wanting to nurse much in the first two days.

Congrats!

 

steffiecox
by Member on Aug. 20, 2013 at 10:16 AM
My dd had fluild in her lungs when she was born I didn't get to nurse her or hold her until she was 7 hours old. She was also jaundice. She didn't want to nurse at all. She would sleep for 8 hours. I tried waking her to nurse and she would fall right back to sleep. I was told by LC that nursing helps clear up the jaundice. She's 3 months old and still nurses like a champ :)
audmom1218
by Silver Member on Aug. 20, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Your bloods are NOT incompatible. If you were positive and he was negative you may have a problem. But you are o+ which means your blood is compatible for anyone with + blood. (O neg is the universal donor, o+ is second best lol). No worries there!


Quoting ajnreidsmama: Thank you so much for everything you said. It definetely helped me feel so much better. They scared me about the jaundice because they said it is due to a blood type incompatibility. I am O+ and Bennett is A+ so they said my blood is basically fighting his and breaking it down and that it can cause brain issues. I will stick to my guns though and not let them supplement. He is already way less yellow than he was on Sunday. I am waiting to find out what his levels are today but they were only 9.0 yesterday which is nowhere near 30. He was having lots of poops the last two days and several pees also, so I know hes obviously getting something (He even spit up a tiny bit of colostrum on one occasion!) I tend to beat myself up a bit but it helps to hear somebody else saying things are going the way they are supposed to. Thank you again!
Quoting gdiamante:
By the wya, you should know that babies with problem jaundice DON'T want to nurse so much... they just sleep.
The breastmilk pushes out the meconium which causes the jaundice. Not nursing would be the WORST thing you could do. Supplementing DOES NOT HELP.
From Dr Jay Gordon, MD, FAAP, IBCLC:
 
Jaundice in Newborns

Q. Can you give me the latest information on what the acceptable levels of jaundice are for a newborn before they need to be on bili lights? Our last doctor had our baby on the bili lights at home for levels of 17-18 but I have heard that that has changed. I’m currently pregnant and would love to successfully breastfeed and I think staying away from the lights would help.
A. Healthy full term babies are probably not threatened by bilirubins under 30 or more.
There has been a recent news release about the dangers of jaundice and it is filled with some of the worst science reportage I have seen in a long time. If your new baby is born near term, healthy, breastfeeding well and looking good, there is no need to draw blood and certainly no need to worry about a day three bili of 18. Jaundice can be a sign of poor breastfeeding and warrants attention not blood tests!
 
gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on Aug. 20, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Oh dear God, they gave you misinformation about the blood types? What else are they going to get wrong?

Keep careful eye on your baby. VERY careful! Mine went under the lights at six days old, and the nurse there actually took OFF his blindfold because it kept sliding up. My husband nearly threw the woman out the window, and we were on one of the top floors! Fortunately it was the last day and we were sent home.

If his level is only 9 and DROPPING, you're in great shape. Bet you'll be taking him home very shortly.

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