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thrush and using genitian violet to cure it...

Posted by on Aug. 21, 2013 at 7:43 AM
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hey do you guys wash it off before feedings or leave it on? I was told it is not supposed to be ingested at all.. so IDK what to do im at my wits end with this thrush crap..

by on Aug. 21, 2013 at 7:43 AM
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crazy4u49033
by Member on Aug. 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM
Well, many women use it in their babies mouth and I have heard to use it and let baby nurse to get it in their mouth.
mostlymaydays
by Group Mod-Stacy on Aug. 21, 2013 at 7:49 AM
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You don't wipe it off. You're supposed to swab it on the nipples then nurse, or a quick swab of baby's mouth. It's not "ingested" in the sense that you don't *drink* it. They put the warning on the bottle so people don't literally drink it thinking you need a teaspoon of it or something.
spitfire06
by Bronze Member on Aug. 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM

ok thats not what the pharmacist said but he didnt seem to kno much..

Quoting mostlymaydays:

You don't wipe it off. You're supposed to swab it on the nipples then nurse, or a quick swab of baby's mouth. It's not "ingested" in the sense that you don't *drink* it. They put the warning on the bottle so people don't literally drink it thinking you need a teaspoon of it or something.


mostlymaydays
by Group Mod-Stacy on Aug. 21, 2013 at 8:45 AM
What did the pharmacist say?!? You can't wipe that stuff off if you try. It's a stain. Kellymom.com has detailed instructions on its use. Be sure to put some lanolin, aquaphor, coconut oil, something! on the baby's face or the baby's face will be purple from nose to chin.

Quoting spitfire06:

ok thats not what the pharmacist said but he didnt seem to kno much..

Quoting mostlymaydays:

You don't wipe it off. You're supposed to swab it on the nipples then nurse, or a quick swab of baby's mouth. It's not "ingested" in the sense that you don't *drink* it. They put the warning on the bottle so people don't literally drink it thinking you need a teaspoon of it or something.


spitfire06
by Bronze Member on Aug. 21, 2013 at 8:46 AM

he said its not at all to be ingested! i will put lanolin on her face lol hopefully this works to get rid of it.

Quoting mostlymaydays:

What did the pharmacist say?!? You can't wipe that stuff off if you try. It's a stain. Kellymom.com has detailed instructions on its use. Be sure to put some lanolin, aquaphor, coconut oil, something! on the baby's face or the baby's face will be purple from nose to chin.

Quoting spitfire06:

ok thats not what the pharmacist said but he didnt seem to kno much..

Quoting mostlymaydays:

You don't wipe it off. You're supposed to swab it on the nipples then nurse, or a quick swab of baby's mouth. It's not "ingested" in the sense that you don't *drink* it. They put the warning on the bottle so people don't literally drink it thinking you need a teaspoon of it or something.



mostlymaydays
by Group Mod-Stacy on Aug. 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM
Is it 1% or 2%?

Quoting spitfire06:

he said its not at all to be ingested! i will put lanolin on her face lol hopefully this works to get rid of it.

Quoting mostlymaydays:

What did the pharmacist say?!? You can't wipe that stuff off if you try. It's a stain. Kellymom.com has detailed instructions on its use. Be sure to put some lanolin, aquaphor, coconut oil, something! on the baby's face or the baby's face will be purple from nose to chin.



Quoting spitfire06:

ok thats not what the pharmacist said but he didnt seem to kno much..

Quoting mostlymaydays:

You don't wipe it off. You're supposed to swab it on the nipples then nurse, or a quick swab of baby's mouth. It's not "ingested" in the sense that you don't *drink* it. They put the warning on the bottle so people don't literally drink it thinking you need a teaspoon of it or something.



mostlymaydays
by Group Mod-Stacy on Aug. 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM
This is from kellymom.com, by Dr Jack Newman:

Using Gentian Violet

We believe that gentian violet (combined with “all purpose nipple ointment”, see the information sheet Candida Protocol) is a good treatment of nipple soreness due to Candida albicans for the breastfeeding mother. This is because it often works even when used alone (though we don’t recommend this, see first paragraph), and relief is rapid. It is messy, and will stain clothing (actually, it will usually wash out eventually or may be removed from clothing with rubbing alcohol), but not skin. The baby's lips will turn purple, but the purple will disappear after a few days. Gentian violet is available without prescription but is not available at all pharmacies. Call around before going out to get it. If you are in the US: gentian violet seems to be sold commonly as a 2% solution rather than a 1% solution. This is too strong a concentration and probably accounts for the mouth ulcers that some babies get after being treated with it. The pharmacist should dilute it for you. It’s easy to do on your own: just add an equal amount of water to the gentian violet 2% and you have gentian violet 1%.

About 10 ml (two teaspoons) of gentian violet is more than enough for an entire treatment.
Many mothers prefer doing the treatment just before bed so that they can keep their nipples exposed and not worry about staining their clothing. The baby should be undressed to his diaper, and the mother should be uncovered from the waist up. Gentian violet is messy.
Your baby will be less purple if, before you apply gentian violet, you rub some olive oil into the baby’s cheeks and around his mouth.
Dip a clean ear swab (Q-tip) into the gentian violet.
Paint one of your nipples and the areola and let dry for a few seconds.
Put the baby to the breast. In this way, both the baby's mouth and your nipple are treated.
When baby is finished on that side, touch up the gentian violet on the nipple if necessary, place a breast pad over top, and cover up that side.
Repeat for the other side
If, at the end of the feeding, you have a baby with a purple mouth, and two purple nipples, there is nothing more to do. If only one nipple is purple, paint the other one with the ear swab and the gentian violet. In this way, the treatment is finished in one go.
A cotton pad can then be used to wipe the excess gentian violet from baby’s face
11. Repeat the treatment each day for at least three or four days t see if it is working and then continue for the rest of the week if it is seen to be working (see the Candida Protocol information sheet for how long to use gentian violet).
There is often some relief within hours of the first treatment, and the pain is usually gone or virtually gone by the third day. If it is not, it is unlikely that Candida was the problem, though it seems Candida albicans is starting to show some resistance to gentian violet, as it already has to other antifungal agents. Of course, there may be more than one cause of nipple pain, but after three days the contribution to your pain caused by Candida albicans should be gone. However, if your pain is virtually gone after three or four days, but not completely, you can use gentian violet a few more days if necessary.
All artificial nipples that the baby uses should be boiled daily during the treatment, or well covered with gentian violet, or rinsed in a solution with grapefruit seed extract. Consider stopping artificial nipples. Artificial nipples can interfere with the way the baby latches on and may contribute to your pain.
There is no need to treat just because the baby has thrush in his mouth. The reason to treat is the mother's and/or the baby's discomfort. Babies, however, only very occasionally seem to be bothered by thrush.
Uncommonly, babies who are treated with gentian violet develop sores in the mouth that may cause them to reject the breast. If this occurs, or if the baby is irritable while nursing, stop the gentian violet immediately, and contact the clinic. The sores clear up within 24 hours and the baby returns to feeding.
It is advisable that a mother with a recurring infection take probiotics orally for a few weeks and or grapefruit seed extract orally for at least 2 weeks. In this case, the baby should probably be treated with probiotics as well (see the Candida Protocol information sheet).
spitfire06
by Bronze Member on Aug. 21, 2013 at 8:54 AM

its 2 percent. So I just put it into a bigger container and add the same bottle that the genitian violet is in of water right?

Quoting mostlymaydays:

Is it 1% or 2%?

Quoting spitfire06:

he said its not at all to be ingested! i will put lanolin on her face lol hopefully this works to get rid of it.

Quoting mostlymaydays:

What did the pharmacist say?!? You can't wipe that stuff off if you try. It's a stain. Kellymom.com has detailed instructions on its use. Be sure to put some lanolin, aquaphor, coconut oil, something! on the baby's face or the baby's face will be purple from nose to chin.



Quoting spitfire06:

ok thats not what the pharmacist said but he didnt seem to kno much..

Quoting mostlymaydays:

You don't wipe it off. You're supposed to swab it on the nipples then nurse, or a quick swab of baby's mouth. It's not "ingested" in the sense that you don't *drink* it. They put the warning on the bottle so people don't literally drink it thinking you need a teaspoon of it or something.




mostlymaydays
by Group Mod-Stacy on Aug. 21, 2013 at 8:59 AM
Yes. But you can probably just put 2 drops of gv and 2 drops of water in a cup and have enough for one application. Dip a q-tip in and do a quick painting

BTW- how were you diagnosed with thrush? We've got a couple threads right now discussing misdiagnosis of thrush. Just checking!


Quoting spitfire06:

its 2 percent. So I just put it into a bigger container and add the same bottle that the genitian violet is in of water right?

Quoting mostlymaydays:

Is it 1% or 2%?



Quoting spitfire06:

he said its not at all to be ingested! i will put lanolin on her face lol hopefully this works to get rid of it.

Quoting mostlymaydays:

What did the pharmacist say?!? You can't wipe that stuff off if you try. It's a stain. Kellymom.com has detailed instructions on its use. Be sure to put some lanolin, aquaphor, coconut oil, something! on the baby's face or the baby's face will be purple from nose to chin.





Quoting spitfire06:

ok thats not what the pharmacist said but he didnt seem to kno much..

Quoting mostlymaydays:

You don't wipe it off. You're supposed to swab it on the nipples then nurse, or a quick swab of baby's mouth. It's not "ingested" in the sense that you don't *drink* it. They put the warning on the bottle so people don't literally drink it thinking you need a teaspoon of it or something.




spitfire06
by Bronze Member on Aug. 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

um well I took Lilly into the dr cuz I had the whitish pink stuff going on on my nipples, and she had a yeast infection the nystatin cleared up her yeast infct. they said she has it a little bit blah blah heres some nystatin (that didnt work ) so we went back in and saw a diff dr who just looked at lilly too and he said okay her thrush isnt so bad heres some dyflucan.. now she has white on her lips that wont come off and i dont want to go abck to the dr cuz yeah sick of their crap not working and going in. And my nipples are red but not whiteish anymore..blah this is lame right? lol

Quoting mostlymaydays:

Yes. But you can probably just put 2 drops of gv and 2 drops of water in a cup and have enough for one application. Dip a q-tip in and do a quick painting

BTW- how were you diagnosed with thrush? We've got a couple threads right now discussing misdiagnosis of thrush. Just checking!


Quoting spitfire06:

its 2 percent. So I just put it into a bigger container and add the same bottle that the genitian violet is in of water right?

Quoting mostlymaydays:

Is it 1% or 2%?



Quoting spitfire06:

he said its not at all to be ingested! i will put lanolin on her face lol hopefully this works to get rid of it.

Quoting mostlymaydays:

What did the pharmacist say?!? You can't wipe that stuff off if you try. It's a stain. Kellymom.com has detailed instructions on its use. Be sure to put some lanolin, aquaphor, coconut oil, something! on the baby's face or the baby's face will be purple from nose to chin.





Quoting spitfire06:

ok thats not what the pharmacist said but he didnt seem to kno much..

Quoting mostlymaydays:

You don't wipe it off. You're supposed to swab it on the nipples then nurse, or a quick swab of baby's mouth. It's not "ingested" in the sense that you don't *drink* it. They put the warning on the bottle so people don't literally drink it thinking you need a teaspoon of it or something.





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