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New mom looking for breastfeeding advice

Posted by on Jun. 21, 2014 at 8:53 PM
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Hi, my name is Kristen and I'm a new mom, just had my first June 1st. I'm struggling with breastfeeding and I would like some advice. I think my milk supply isn't sufficient enough I also don't think we are getting a good latch I have had flat nipples all my life and now that I've had her they stick out more but I still don't think I'm managing to get her latched on deeply enough. I also have thrush so feedings are painful. I'm on medicine for it and I've also treated her. When she comes off my nipples are lipstick shaped but I'm really having trouble when latching cause she moves a lot and puts her hands in the way and just struggles so much. I've tried side nursing, cradle hold, cross cradle, and football. None of which seem to make very much of a difference. Also the Dr. Told me that if she is still hungry after 45 minutes to supplement with a bottle of formula so I don't know if her having the bottle is causing nipple confusion and that's why the latch is so difficult. Any advise or suggestions would be helpful
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shortyali
by Alicia on Jun. 21, 2014 at 9:05 PM
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 You are right in the middle of the 3 week growth spurt.  Your only job is to nurse.  Its normal for them to nurse almost non stop.  Lipstick shaped nipples means there is a tongue tie that needs to be clipped. For flat nipples you want to get nipple sheilds and wear them inbetween nursing.  May also help the thrush since this will allow your nipples to dry naturally also.

IGNORE your dr.  That is a fast way to be formula feeding 100% in no time.  If baby acts hungry then nurse.  Even if last feeding was 2 seconds ago.  This is normal and natural. No more bottles.

How many diapers are you changing in 24 hours?  If the answer is more than 6 then you are fine and theres no need for forumla. Count poops as 2 diapers.


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MommyRush
by on Jun. 21, 2014 at 9:06 PM
Get with a lactation specialist... There are so many that are free and will spend as much time with you as you need. Ask your doctor for a number they should be able to point you in the right direction
tabi_cat1023
by Group Mod - Tabitha on Jun. 21, 2014 at 10:09 PM

Welcome to the group momma lets see what I can do to help

1-get some nipple shells, wear them between nursings in your bra, this will help pull our your nipples gently

2-what are you being treated with for the thrush? WHat are you using on baby?

3-Why do you think your supply is not suffifient?

4-IGNORE doctor, find a lactation consultant. Formula and bottles will kill supply and yes ruin latch

Sounds like baby has a shallow latch and flat nipples can cause that, you need hands on help getting nipple out and baby latched.  You also need correct treatment for thrush which is why I asked what you are on now.

GodsAmiga
by Member on Jun. 21, 2014 at 10:24 PM
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I have inverted nipples and my dd1 had a high palette. Breastfeeding was a big struggle when it came to latching. Nipple shields could help! They didn't for me but I know many women who swear by them. :-) For me I used my pointer and middle fingers. I placed them on either side of my nipple and pushed/wiggled to bring my nipple out. I kept pushing down to keep the nipple out as I guided my dd to it. When she got her mouth there and started to open I used the knuckle of my middle finger to softly push her lower lip/jaw down. This made her open her mouth more. I would help get the nipple in and move my fingers. If her latch still wasn't deep enough I would use my thumb to gently pull out her lower lip and pull her chin down. This made her open up more. I would also make sure her upper lip was out. You want her to have a wide open mouth latch with both lips showing and not sucked inwards. :-)

ceckyl
by Kyla on Jun. 21, 2014 at 10:32 PM
How was thrush diagnosed? By pain?
gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on Jun. 21, 2014 at 10:52 PM


Quoting Eviesmom14: Hi, my name is Kristen and I'm a new mom, just had my first June 1st. I'm struggling with breastfeeding and I would like some advice. I think my milk supply isn't sufficient enough
Need a diaper count to determine that. You SHOULD be seeing 6-8 changes per day at this stage. And baby should NEVER be satisfied. Three weeks is a vicious stage where you wonder WHY you wanted this baby so much! (If you survive it, you've bonded.)
I also don't think we are getting a good latch I have had flat nipples all my life and now that I've had her they stick out more but I still don't think I'm managing to get her latched on deeply enough.
Pretty common problem. There seem to be more women with flat nipples than anything else, to the point where I believe flat is normal and anything else is NOT normal. **grin** Two devices can help with this. One is the breast shell. Wear between nursings. The other is the Latch Assist; use before latching to draw the nipple out.
I also have thrush so feedings are painful. I'm on medicine for it and I've also treated her.
Is it Nystatin? That tends to make thrush WORSE, like pouring gasoline on a fire. This is one of the things you don't go to doc for. Everything you could possibly want to know about treating thrush can be found here: http://kellymom.com/bf/concerns/child/thrush-resources/
When she comes off my nipples are lipstick shaped
Now THAT screams tongue tie! An Internationally Board Certified Lactation consultant can help you figure out this and the next problem you list...
but I'm really having trouble when latching cause she moves a lot and puts her hands in the way and just struggles so much. I've tried side nursing, cradle hold, cross cradle, and football. None of which seem to make very much of a difference.
**smile** Yeah, it's the age for it. If you don't eat the baby out of sheer frustration, your bond is good!
Also the Dr. Told me that if she is still hungry after 45 minutes to supplement with a bottle of formula
No. No. No. No. No. Sounds like this may be the second strike for the doc.
so I don't know if her having the bottle is causing nipple confusion
Very likely. Know the most dangerous person your baby can meet? S/he has the title "Doctor." Sad, isn't it?
and that's why the latch is so difficult. Any advise or suggestions would be helpful

Check this out regarding your latch issues: http://kellymom.com/ages/newborn/bf-basics/latch-resources/ And this to find a good lactation consultant who will first do no harm (the thing your doc swore to but forgot about) http://www.ilca.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3432.

aehanrahan
by Group Mod - Amy on Jun. 22, 2014 at 1:01 AM
All of this!!!

Quoting gdiamante:

Quoting Eviesmom14: Hi, my name is Kristen and I'm a new mom, just had my first June 1st. I'm struggling with breastfeeding and I would like some advice. I think my milk supply isn't sufficient enough
Need a diaper count to determine that. You SHOULD be seeing 6-8 changes per day at this stage. And baby should NEVER be satisfied. Three weeks is a vicious stage where you wonder WHY you wanted this baby so much! (If you survive it, you've bonded.)
I also don't think we are getting a good latch I have had flat nipples all my life and now that I've had her they stick out more but I still don't think I'm managing to get her latched on deeply enough.
Pretty common problem. There seem to be more women with flat nipples than anything else, to the point where I believe flat is normal and anything else is NOT normal. **grin** Two devices can help with this. One is the breast shell. Wear between nursings. The other is the Latch Assist; use before latching to draw the nipple out.
I also have thrush so feedings are painful. I'm on medicine for it and I've also treated her.
Is it Nystatin? That tends to make thrush WORSE, like pouring gasoline on a fire. This is one of the things you don't go to doc for. Everything you could possibly want to know about treating thrush can be found here: http://kellymom.com/bf/concerns/child/thrush-resources/
When she comes off my nipples are lipstick shaped
Now THAT screams tongue tie! An Internationally Board Certified Lactation consultant can help you figure out this and the next problem you list...
but I'm really having trouble when latching cause she moves a lot and puts her hands in the way and just struggles so much. I've tried side nursing, cradle hold, cross cradle, and football. None of which seem to make very much of a difference.
**smile** Yeah, it's the age for it. If you don't eat the baby out of sheer frustration, your bond is good!
Also the Dr. Told me that if she is still hungry after 45 minutes to supplement with a bottle of formula
No. No. No. No. No. Sounds like this may be the second strike for the doc.
so I don't know if her having the bottle is causing nipple confusion
Very likely. Know the most dangerous person your baby can meet? S/he has the title "Doctor." Sad, isn't it?
and that's why the latch is so difficult. Any advise or suggestions would be helpful

Check this out regarding your latch issues: http://kellymom.com/ages/newborn/bf-basics/latch-resources/ And this to find a good lactation consultant who will first do no harm (the thing your doc swore to but forgot about) http://www.ilca.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3432.

Eviesmom14
by New Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 12:53 PM
I went to the clinic and a RN looked at my breasts and I also told her my symptoms were pain, itching, and burning.

Quoting ceckyl: How was thrush diagnosed? By pain?
Eviesmom14
by New Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 12:59 PM
I think my supply isn't sufficient because at the end of the night she does frequent feedings and doesn't get very satisfied and by the last one before I give her the bottle she is fussing while on my nipples and not really swallowing as often. I try to only give her 1 bottle a day and by the sat one when I give it to her she takes 3 oz. they treated her with nystatin and me with fluconazole I just treated her as a precaution because I read that if I didn't it would likely be a cycle of passing it back and forth she didn't have it yet.

Quoting tabi_cat1023:

Welcome to the group momma lets see what I can do to help

1-get some nipple shells, wear them between nursings in your bra, this will help pull our your nipples gently

2-what are you being treated with for the thrush? WHat are you using on baby?

3-Why do you think your supply is not suffifient?

4-IGNORE doctor, find a lactation consultant. Formula and bottles will kill supply and yes ruin latch

Sounds like baby has a shallow latch and flat nipples can cause that, you need hands on help getting nipple out and baby latched.  You also need correct treatment for thrush which is why I asked what you are on now.

alkakfnxcpoem
by Member on Jun. 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM

I had a lot of trouble getting my newborn to latch at all, so I understand newborn troubles! We ended up doing bottle feeds for a few weeks. As a last resort I tried a nipple shield and it worked like a charm. He used that until about 8 weeks, then my dog chewed it so we adjusted to normal nursing. It turned out he has an upper lip tie, which one of the ladies in this group was kind enough to diagnose. His top lip didn't flange out like it's supposed to, instead it was always tucked under. His lip tie is still there, but now that his mouth is bigger it isn't a problem. My nipples always end up lipstick shaped though. Just thought I'd throw in my story so you could know that lip ties exist because I had no idea. So if her latch looks like the bottom lip is flanged but the top is tucked under, google lip ties.

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