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Updated New at BF & 5 week old loosing weight. Advice please

Posted by on Dec. 28, 2014 at 5:49 AM
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****update****
Well we had a weigh in today he gained just 3.5 oz & we saw a different dr. Of the practice. He's the original doctor & much older. He actually used to clip them in the hospitals after birth way back in the day he said they did it l the time to prevent this type of thing before it went more to the way side he said now it's starting to come back around probably with more people BFing again. We he looked at it after I explained my case & that my mom was well into her childhood, low and behind he agreed, he actually did it right in the office & said it was rather bad once he got in there to do it. I'm go happy we saw him this week and that it's done! MOMMA KNOWS BEST! :)
He didn't seem to think we'd need to go back next week bc he's certain this will be the trick but he had us schedule an appointment tovar you'd at ease. I'm so relieved that he caught it & death with it. Now here's to hoping we climb back up this weight hill & stay on track!! :)

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I'm New on here. I tried BFing with my first, he wouldn't latch for me, I didn't have the needed support or knowledge at the time so after trying to pump for 8 weeks I was done & pretty much dry..

Onto my second baby, he was born nov. 21 at
8 lbs 6oz
Was 7 lbs 14oz at his one week check
Then down to 7lbs 4oz at his 4 week!
I freaked out!
I thought he was fine, lots of output! At least 10+ wets daily & 2 big and a few small poos!
Though I had this weird time where my mins said, is he ok? Is he getting enough? Is he growing well? This was a week before his apt. I bought the brewers yeast 3 hours before his apt. To add to my diet ...then low avid behold he's lost weight! How weird is that? Mothers intuition I guess. My intuitions have always been strong but I was stunned this time.

Hes always been Nursing constantly, I thought with a good latch and figured the constant nursing was because he wanted me for comfort & that he was slow to feed.
The hospital lactation said he was slightly you he tied but his doctor, after asking twice doesn't seem concerned. I'll see a second dr. on mon bc she is out of town and I'm asking him as well.
He always seems satisfied when he comes off, milk dripping & asleep but doctors orders are to add .5 to 1 oz bottles AFTER every feeding.
He will take 1 oz easy but will often spit up a little so I'm thinking he's taking so much bc it's coming so fast from the bottle. (We use Tommie tippie mostly, drop ins once in a while but he's not as fond of it)

I feel the need to increase my supply, not just for his feeds but also to stock up so dad can feed & I'd like to get my hair done or maybe go to target alone sometimes. Lol!

So to increase my supply & not to have to give formula in those extra bottles I'm pumping after each feed & only getting .5 oz total but I'm assuming that's just from 1. He just ate & 2. not pumping after feeds before so I just need to work at pumping or much at all & more will come, which I've noticed a slight increase already and it's been less than a week.

I have added brewers yeast, more flax & oatmeal to my diet as well. I'm planning to get some fenugreek this week to help boost because we've been supplementing with formula & it's not something we want to do but have to until in getting more milk in. I'd also like to not have to spend money on something that I should be able to make for him.

I kinda feel sad sometimes because I feel like I should be able to provide enough for him. I feel like I do sometimes like nights I'm loaded but daytime I feel like maybe I'm not.

I feel like I'm almost defeated but I know the fights not over & I can do this I just need help.. I just don't want to get defeated like with my first born. I was t happy with not giving breastmilk but didn't know really what to do/where to look for help.


So, with that full being said, help!

Any ideas to help more come?
Am I doing the right things?
Could tongue tie be an issue here?
Any other ideas I haven't covered??

I just want my baby healthy & happy... And preferably off formula ;)
by on Dec. 28, 2014 at 5:49 AM
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MusherMaggie
by Ruby Member on Dec. 28, 2014 at 8:30 AM
The tongue tie is the issue here, and he needs to be checked for a lip tie as well. We have a wonderful section on ties in our resources sticky with links to pictures, articles and a list of reputable providers by state who evaluate and revise ties. Your regular pediatrician is not knowledgeable about the impact ties have on nursing, and if your LC is not IBCLC, she is not, either
In the meantime, uae your own milk with an SNS (Supplemental Nursing ). This will allow him to receive the supplement at the breast without developing nipple confusion or bottle preference. Kellymom.com has an excellent article on how to use the SNS. I would order one of these today.

What happens is that the tongue cannot move to properly milk the breast; nursing for him burns more calories than he is able to take in. The SNS with your milk will make the difference.

When using bottles, hold him in a sitting position, bottle parallel to the floor, burping after every ounce. This should help with the spitting up. You will need to supplement until you get the ties revised.

When you do latch him on, push down on his chin to help him open wider. Flip his top lip out if he tucks it under.

Keep us posted. Lots of us have dealt with this and we can walk you through it.
tabi_cat1023
by Group Admin -Tabitha on Dec. 28, 2014 at 10:38 AM
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I agree this is the tongue tie, most likely your supply is just fine and giving the extra is overfeeding and stretching his poor tummy.  Babies will take more than they need from bottles.  Get baby seen about that tongue tie!

PeppyInPink
by on Dec. 28, 2014 at 11:02 AM
I'll check that list for provider

Quoting MusherMaggie: The tongue tie is the issue here, and he needs to be checked for a lip tie as well. We have a wonderful section on ties in our resources sticky with links to pictures, articles and a list of reputable providers by state who evaluate and revise ties. Your regular pediatrician is not knowledgeable about the impact ties have on nursing, and if your LC is not IBCLC, she is not, either
In the meantime, uae your own milk with an SNS (Supplemental Nursing ). This will allow him to receive the supplement at the breast without developing nipple confusion or bottle preference. Kellymom.com has an excellent article on how to use the SNS. I would order one of these today.

What happens is that the tongue cannot move to properly milk the breast; nursing for him burns more calories than he is able to take in. The SNS with your milk will make the difference.

When using bottles, hold him in a sitting position, bottle parallel to the floor, burping after every ounce. This should help with the spitting up. You will need to supplement until you get the ties revised.

When you do latch him on, push down on his chin to help him open wider. Flip his top lip out if he tucks it under.

Keep us posted. Lots of us have dealt with this and we can walk you through it.
gdiamante
by Gina on Dec. 28, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Absolutely it's the tie. Be ready to pay out of pocket to get it fixed; for some reason insurance companies are pains in the butt about covering it.

mostlymaydays
by Group Admin - Stacy on Dec. 28, 2014 at 2:21 PM
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At the risk of sounding redundant, I agree the tongue tie is the first thing that needs to be addressed. :-/
lovemytwo88
by Bronze Member on Dec. 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM
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I know you are in Ohio too and the provider recommended here is Greg Notestine. He is near Dayton. I need to get my baby seen by him for her tongue tie as well.
mostlymaydays
by Group Admin - Stacy on Dec. 28, 2014 at 5:29 PM
I'm pretty sure stepconfused took her baby to Dr. Notestine for successful revision. She came up from WV to see him. I'm also in Ohio. There are a few docors now up here in northern ohio that the fb tt group recommends, one trained by Dr. Kotlow.

Quoting lovemytwo88: I know you are in Ohio too and the provider recommended here is Greg Notestine. He is near Dayton. I need to get my baby seen by him for her tongue tie as well.
tabi_cat1023
by Group Admin -Tabitha on Dec. 28, 2014 at 6:03 PM

Kotlow is a god among tongue tie specialists....my friend is his nurse and she says hes amazing just as a person too

Quoting mostlymaydays: I'm pretty sure stepconfused took her baby to Dr. Notestine for successful revision. She came up from WV to see him. I'm also in Ohio. There are a few docors now up here in northern ohio that the fb tt group recommends, one trained by Dr. Kotlow.
Quoting lovemytwo88: I know you are in Ohio too and the provider recommended here is Greg Notestine. He is near Dayton. I need to get my baby seen by him for her tongue tie as well.


lovemytwo88
by Bronze Member on Dec. 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM
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She is the one who told me to see him :)

Quoting mostlymaydays: I'm pretty sure stepconfused took her baby to Dr. Notestine for successful revision. She came up from WV to see him. I'm also in Ohio. There are a few docors now up here in northern ohio that the fb tt group recommends, one trained by Dr. Kotlow.

Quoting lovemytwo88: I know you are in Ohio too and the provider recommended here is Greg Notestine. He is near Dayton. I need to get my baby seen by him for her tongue tie as well.
PeppyInPink
by on Dec. 28, 2014 at 8:27 PM
Awe geez, of course.. Why not! Lol

Quoting gdiamante:

Absolutely it's the tie. Be ready to pay out of pocket to get it fixed; for some reason insurance companies are pains in the butt about covering it.

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