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when do u give up and switch to formula??

Posted by on Jun. 6, 2009 at 10:20 AM
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My daughter is 4 weeks old and we've had nothing but issues. I am using an LC  to try and make this work and i've given us 8 more weeks. she was coombs pos and was given a bottle b/c of her high level of jaundice......then we got thrush severely....now i offer her the breast at the beginning of feedings (when my 3 yr old allows it due to time contrainsts b/c of him) and after and  I still give her pumped milk with a bottle...I have an SNS and have tried it but she gets severly aggrivated so the LC said try it when I have time (at night when hubby' home and weeke-dns) and when she frusterated supplement with a bottle....I am so lost I don't know waht to do...and if all this will work?? I HATE pumping but see no other way!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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kparker75844
by on Jun. 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM

 Well, the ladies in this group are going to tell you never give up.  Lets get a little more info.  What is preventing you from putting her to the  breast and feeding her without the bottle?  I am asking this b/c the bottle is sabatoging you right now.  Everytime you give her a bottle you are telling your body not to make that milk.  Have you tried ditching them and strictly bf.  I am not  trying to bash, but you said yourself you hated to pump, so don't. I know you said you have a three year old.  But he is old enough to understand that mommy is feeding sissy right now and you have to wait just a minute.  Get a sling for when times can't wait.  Feed on demand when ever she wants!  Don't give up nurse nurse nurse!!! You will pull through this.  Don't give yourself time limits just take one day at a time and do the best you can. Good LUck~

kittymeri
by on Jun. 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM

honestly, i believe the very best way would be to toss the bottle all together. baby will get frustrated at first, but in turn will try to nurse more often and help your milk supply kick into gear and both of you will learn how each other operate.

i'm not sure exactly what the problem is from your post. is it a latching issue, a supply issue, a time issue?

LMartin08
by on Jun. 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I was in the same position... at least, i felt that way. DS was born with severe jaundice, and somehow the hospital DIDNT catch it, and he went 2 weeks without it being noticed, and when it was, i had to give him formula to help drop it. So for 2 1/2 days, he got nothing but formula. And then, to make matters worse, he WOULDN'T gain weight. The normal amount of weight a baby should gain is 30gm/day, and he was gaining maybe 10. But i wanted to keep nursing, but i just kept slipping a bottle in.  I was too tired, didn't have any time, etc. I dont have any advice for you, time wise, because i only have ds. And its definitely harder for you with a 3 year old.  However, i did learn that a sling was awesome to help me clean, maybe it can help you by allowing you the ability to multitask?  

I don't like to pump either, and Im at the same point (again!) as you. I want to stop nursing, but my mommy instinct won't let me.... which is irritating.. but it doesn't make you a bad mom

some women on here like to say that, and i think its messed up. As long as you're taking care of your child, theres no way you are a bad mom. So if you decided bfing isnt for you, go ahead and give formula. Either way your baby will be healthy and she will grow up JUST FINE. You will continue to bond with her, but it will also be less stressful...

 

GL

Im a 20 year old mommy to the handsomest baby to me,  run-to-my-infant-even-if-he's-crying-for-no-reason, always feeding my boobie monster, co-sleeping because when he's in a crib i miss him, freaky spank-me/pull my hair kinda sex with my hubby kinda girl

Necie72
by on Jun. 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM

like the first poster said, DON'T EVER GIVE UP!!!!  my dd had latching issues, but i was determined!!!!  and her pediatrician was good encouragement.  he was better than my LC...  he told me one thing...  "don't think about it too much, and don't try to read too much into her behavior"...  it was so true!  i thought she just didn't like the right side at all and thought he would never latch, but now she does!  not as much as the left, but she does it, and she doesn't have a hard time...  she just prefers being cradled when she nurses on that side, rather than the football hold...  :-)  so keep trying!!!!  AND TOSS THE BOTTLES!!!!!  i use them occasionally, but it's best to go straight to breast!!!  :-)  i supplemented in the beginning too, but the formula made her too gassy...  it really didn't get better for me until i STOPPED supplementing... 

I AM A NATURAL FAMILY PLANNING, PLANNED C-SECTION HAVING, PUBLIC BREASTFEEDING, CO-SLEEPING, DISPOSABLE PAMPER USING, VACCINATING SINGLE MOM TO A BEAUTIFUL, HEALTHY, BI-RACIAL PRINCESS.
chairhead28
by Bronze Member on Jun. 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM

It depends on how important nursing is to you. For me, formula is NOT an option. I've had a LOT of issues. I need an emergency c-section and I was in so much pain from that that it was hard to breastfeed, but 30 minutes after my c-section she was latching on because she was so hungry (her blood sugar levels were 36). I had a 16 month old son at the time, so he was always climbing all over me and jumping on me and wanting me every time I fed my DD. He was no longer BFed so he didn't understand why she gets to BF and he doesn't. That was a struggle, and still is and my son is 2 and my DD is 9 months old almost. At 6 months my DD was only 14lbs, then at 8 months she lost a pound and went down to 13lbs. The pedi told me to give formula, the LC told me to give formula to up calories (put formula in pumped BM) and I wouldn't do it. I knew there had to be something else. I almost have hypothyrodism so my milk supply is limited. I was given Reglan to produce more milk. I'm also taking Fenugreek, eating oatmeal daily, drinking tons and tons of water, pumping on the hour every hour and after my DD eats. It's so hard, but so worth it. So really, it depends on how much you value BFing compared to giving formula. For me, no option, breastfeeding is the only way for me.

My advice to you would be to not give up. The first six weeks are SO hard. My son had a jaundice level of 21.8 and he had to be under the lights for 20 out of the 24hrs a day and I still could BF him. It was so hard because the only time he could be out of the lights were to be fed and changed. I know what you're going through in that aspect. I'd toss the bottles out all together and toss the formula. Unless your baby isn't having 6-8 wet/dirty diapers a day, your baby's getting enough to eat. Don't give her pumped milk after you feed her, that's messing with your supply and the first six weeks are important to just nurse nurse nurse so your supply gets to the place it should be at for you and your baby. If you hate pumping, give your baby no other option than the breast. Just feed on demand. If you co-sleep, let her just suckle on your breast all night long (when we were co-sleeping that's what we did and it was so much easier than getting her out of a crib and getting her latched on) so she gets used to the flow of the breast instead of wanting the flow of a bottle. Don't give yourself a time limit, you're going to set yourself up to fail. Just let things happen and when you get to 8 weeks later, reevaluate what's going on. That's good that you're seeing a LC.

PS - when my DD was losing weight they wanted me to use a SNS too and my DD hated it. She just tried to kind of lick it and be like what the heck is this tube thing? So, we tossed that and just used the breast (and I had to supplement with breast milk in a bottle because I was only producing half an ounce from each side, that's why I was prescribed Reglan) and now she's up to 14lbs 5oz, so 5oz more than she was at 6 months and she'll be 9 months on the 13th.

Hope this helped some.



                   

kclarsh
by on Jun. 7, 2009 at 9:37 PM

it took me 5 weeks of trying and then switched to excusively pum0ping, then trying again and I am happy to say we have been breastfeeding for 3 weeks now!  dd is almost 8 weeks now.

dont give up! keep a lot of skin toskin and what helped us was to take a break from trying and just keeping her around the breast and nipple while she's not hungry :) to lower the stress for both of us and to get her used to them. 

keep it up and I dont see anything wrong with pumping because it keeps your supply going and is better than formula.

gdiamante
by Group Mod - Gina on Jun. 7, 2009 at 11:10 PM

When do you give up? When death is the alternative. That's purely MY feeling.

It's also my feelingthat you're making it a thousand times harder on yourself by having the bottle option. Toss 'em. She WILL take the breast, as you've noted...now give her no other choice BUT the breast. Be more stubborn than she is...or abandon all hope for toddlerhood! **grin**

 

Necie72
by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 2:44 AM

EXCELLENT!!!!  AS ALWAYS!!!!

Quoting gdiamante:

When do you give up? When death is the alternative. That's purely MY feeling.

It's also my feelingthat you're making it a thousand times harder on yourself by having the bottle option. Toss 'em. She WILL take the breast, as you've noted...now give her no other choice BUT the breast. Be more stubborn than she is...or abandon all hope for toddlerhood! **grin**

 


I AM A NATURAL FAMILY PLANNING, PLANNED C-SECTION HAVING, PUBLIC BREASTFEEDING, CO-SLEEPING, DISPOSABLE PAMPER USING, VACCINATING SINGLE MOM TO A BEAUTIFUL, HEALTHY, BI-RACIAL PRINCESS.
with3love
by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 4:47 AM

I'm going to give you a highly literal reply. I never give up and switch to formula, even if my breasts have third degree burns I'll breastfeed. Once you get over your slump, it will be a cake walk.

My dd couldnt even latch until she was 2 weeks old. What kind of lc are you going to? A good lc would not recommend you giving a bottle, that will only hinder proper lactch technique....SPECIALLY if you dislike pumping. You'll have a baby that doesnt know how to suckle a breast, and a mother that dislikes pumping.

You need a IBLCE

http://www.iblce.org/

To make matters worse, once you start supplementing with formula....your breasts dont get the input to increase milk supply...so then you have supply issues. Please get a proper Lactation Specialist.

Maybe if you posted what your exact issues are, we could help in the meantime.

having a baby

lizabeth8152004
by on Jun. 8, 2009 at 12:46 PM

My issues

 

I have a 2.5 yr old with speech issues and he's a ft job (never bf'd him couldn't)

 

Grace had high jaundice so the LC in the hosp had me pump and give it to her in a breast flow bottle

 

 

Grace won't latch at all w/out the shield

 

 

will take 2oz from a shield with the sns then get aggrivated and won't get my breasts to let down

 

I work pt 2 days a week for 5 hours went back 2 weeks ago and she HAS to eat while I am gone

 

 

Any suggestions??????

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