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Parents want teachers JAILED after low test scores come in

Posted by on Dec. 14, 2009 at 4:46 AM
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Dang...

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091212/SCHOOLS/912120373/Detroit-parents-want-DPS-teachers--officials-jailed-over-low-test-scores

Detroit -- Impassioned parents demanded jail time for educators and district officials Saturday following the release of test scores that showed fourth- and eighth-graders had the worst math scores in the nation.

City students took the National Assessment of Educational Progress test this year, and 69 percent of fourth-graders scored below the basic level in math and 77 percent of eighth-graders scored below basic.

The Detroit scores on the progress test were the lowest in its 40-year history. The sample of students included 900 of Detroit's 6,000 fourth-graders and 1,000 of the district's 6,000 eighth-graders.

Sharlonda Buckman, CEO of the Detroit Parent Network, called for jailing and civil lawsuits against anyone in the city's educational system that is not doing his or her share to help properly educate children.

"Somebody needs to go to jail," she said in a tearful address to 500 parents gathered Saturday for the organization's annual breakfast forum. "Somebody needs to pay for this. Somebody needs to go to jail, and it shouldn't be the kids."

Detroit Public Schools Emergency Financial Manager Robert Bobb told the crowd the test scores weren't the result of children who were incompetent or parents who didn't care. He blamed the scores on the district not doing its job.

"This is an abysmal failure," Bobb said. "It is not the fault of our kids individually, and it is not the fault of our kids collectively. It is not the kids' fault. It is the adults' fault. It is a failure of leadership."

The scores were so low that DPS parent Tonya Allen said she thinks students could have stayed home and done just as badly on the tests.

"No other city in the history of this test has done this bad," said Allen, a founding member of the 7-year-old network. "They could have took this test in French and done just as bad."

Celia Huerta, also a DPS parent, said the scores show how much work is needed in the schools.

"I am hoping and praying there will be investments in the schools, but I am not seeing it," she said. "Our kids are smart, the problem is the way they are being taught."

Bobb said he is going to announce a new reading initiative Monday in which he will be calling for 100,000 volunteer hours to help children with reading. Reading was one of the reasons cited for the low math scores.

Attendees gave Bobb a rousing reception and loudly applauded him during his remarks. They had harsh words, though, for Mayor Dave Bing, who was not in attendance.

"Where is the mayor?" Buckman asked. "Don't release a statement. Do something. Show up."

But according to the mayor's office, Bing did not receive an invitation to the event. Mayoral spokesman Edward Cardenas said Bing not being there shouldn't be construed as the mayor not having an interest or not wanting to be involved.

Buckman also had harsh words for a group of teachers who are in favor of striking instead of approving a new contract that forces them to give up $500 per month or $250 per paycheck as an investment. The money will be given to the district to help plug a $219 million deficit, and it will be returned when they retire.

"If they strike, I hope we start a homeschool movement," she said in a fiery rebuke. "If you want to walk out on us now, when we have all of our kids failing...you can't do it."

A group of teachers was to prepare Saturday evening to get out the word to vote against the proposed contract and seek to remove Detroit Federation of Teachers president Keith Johnson. The Vote No and Prepare to Strike Committee, made up of a limited number of teacher activists, is prepared to take action against the district, according to a release.

But Bobb said teachers should understand that Johnson negotiated a better financial deal for members than Johnson is being credited for.

"I proposed a 10 percent pay cut," Bobb said. "Mr. Johnson and his team are actually saving the teachers financially from what I was proposing. The negotiations are over. Our final and best offer is on the table."

Teachers begin voting on a three-year contract next week.

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anetrnlov
by on Dec. 14, 2009 at 4:51 AM

jaw drop

I'm stealing this article....

atlmom2
by Susie on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:23 AM

What did the parents do to help their kids?   When mine wasn't performing, I sent her to Sylvan and got her private tutors.  I didn't try and jail the teachers. 

mamapaparazzi
by Gold Member on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:25 AM

But that would be taking responsibility - remember, we're a "blame everyone but our kids and ourselves" society, lol.  That sarcasm was directed at society, not you, btw :).

Quoting atlmom2:

What did the parents do to help their kids?   When mine wasn't performing, I sent her to Sylvan and got her private tutors.  I didn't try and jail the teachers. 


savannahnhi
by on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:28 AM

haha that is so funny.


bmw29
by Bronze Member on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:28 AM

Since when did the burden of education lie solely on the shoulders of the shoulders of the teachers, or even the schools or hell even the govt. for that matter. It is our jobs as parents to educate our young. Maybe these people need to invest some of their time into helping those children. This is just one more reason on my list of why we homeschool. 

atlmom2
by Susie on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:28 AM

I whole heartedly agree with you!!  I also tutored my daughter myself extra up and beyond the tutoring we paid for and it paid off through the years.  She graduated last year with a 3.0 gpa cumulative and without us and the tutoring it would have never happened.  Even with it all she never was proficient in the language arts area in 10th grade, her last year to take the state testing.  Yet she managed A's and B's in literature class and speech class her senior year. 

Quoting mamapaparazzi:

But that would be taking responsibility - remember, we're a "blame everyone but our kids and ourselves" society, lol.  That sarcasm was directed at society, not you, btw :).

Quoting atlmom2:

What did the parents do to help their kids?   When mine wasn't performing, I sent her to Sylvan and got her private tutors.  I didn't try and jail the teachers. 



mizzbranch
by on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:32 AM

I'm thinking the same thing you ladies are thinking. Did the parents even try to help their kids with school work? Did they even make them do their homework, let alone check it when they get done with it? I know when I was growing up you got a snack and you sat down and did your homework when you got home. And if you did not bring all your books and homework home for the weekend you got what my mom called "leather soup" or a different punishment. I wish parenting was the same as it was when I was little. Geez this is so sad.

mamapaparazzi
by Gold Member on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:38 AM

I have to ask, lol.... what's "leather soup"?

We do the homework thing like you did as a kid... the kids come home, sit down and do their work.  My one daughter actually used to lie about having it or not so now she has a sheet she has to sign, I sign and the teacher signs; that way she gets away with nothing, lol.

Quoting mizzbranch:

I'm thinking the same thing you ladies are thinking. Did the parents even try to help their kids with school work? Did they even make them do their homework, let alone check it when they get done with it? I know when I was growing up you got a snack and you sat down and did your homework when you got home. And if you did not bring all your books and homework home for the weekend you got what my mom called "leather soup" or a different punishment. I wish parenting was the same as it was when I was little. Geez this is so sad.


tyfry7496
by on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:38 AM

WOW!! Should I have my son's math teacher jailed because he isn't understanding the work? His other teachers because his grades are low? Oh, wait, that would be HIS fault for NOT turning in his homework. That's right, it is the PARENTS responsibility to make sure their chidlren are doing what they can do get good grades and test scores.

This article is just another reason I say. BAN STANDARDIZED TESTING!!!!!!!!! ALL a standardized test shows is who can and cannot take a test. TOO much emphasis is put on test scores. That is the reason my son's counselor gave for the school NOT following his ADEP, they were too busy with the standardized test, for a month.

Nope, no jail time for anyone involved with this, maybe the parents should HELP their chldren. 

mizzbranch
by on Dec. 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM

lol it's a spanking sorry we are a little bit country. man i bet she hates that she has to get a sheet signed.

Quoting mamapaparazzi:

I have to ask, lol.... what's "leather soup"?

We do the homework thing like you did as a kid... the kids come home, sit down and do their work.  My one daughter actually used to lie about having it or not so now she has a sheet she has to sign, I sign and the teacher signs; that way she gets away with nothing, lol.

Quoting mizzbranch:

I'm thinking the same thing you ladies are thinking. Did the parents even try to help their kids with school work? Did they even make them do their homework, let alone check it when they get done with it? I know when I was growing up you got a snack and you sat down and did your homework when you got home. And if you did not bring all your books and homework home for the weekend you got what my mom called "leather soup" or a different punishment. I wish parenting was the same as it was when I was little. Geez this is so sad.



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