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Playing God

Posted by on May. 26, 2010 at 2:56 PM
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A comment in another post got me thinking.

If we are to live and die by God's will, then are doctors going against his will? Are antibiotics, cancer medications, organ transplants....do we go against 'The Plan' for our lives when we get these kinds of help?

Or are we using the gifts we were blessed with?

Should we ONLY depend on prayer when we are ill or injured? 

~Parenting is not a Competitive Sport~
by on May. 26, 2010 at 2:56 PM
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Raintree
by on May. 26, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Some religions think so, and they're often written off as batty heretics. Interestingly, after the post you got this idea from, it seems as if it's a more common malady than we thought.

t_lawson
by on May. 26, 2010 at 3:03 PM

There were Drs.in Jesus's days and even mentioned further back in the Bible.I think its God who gives them their skills and he uses Dr's to heal sometimes instead of Divine healing. Jesus healed to show that he was who he said he was. You remember the woman who had an issue of blood. She had spent all her money on Drs and was still sick but when she reached out in faith and touched the hem of Jesus's garment ,she was healed.

t_lawson
by on May. 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM

You are a good christian sister Raintree.?

Quoting Raintree:

Some religions think so, and they're often written off as batty heretics. Interestingly, after the post you got this idea from, it seems as if it's a more common malady than we thought.


BleedinHeartMom
by on May. 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Who needs doctors when we have Benny Hinn

margroc
by on May. 26, 2010 at 3:08 PM

Let's not forget that the poster who got you thinking was one of the Schiavo family supporters in many posts on this board.  Their daughter's body was kept alive for 15 years using medical technology even though her brain was dead and apparently God's will at that time was to be hooked up to electronics.  It appears it's only "God's will" when it's convenient for her argument.

Woodbabe
by Silver Member on May. 26, 2010 at 3:09 PM


Quoting t_lawson:

There were Drs.in Jesus's days and even mentioned further back in the Bible.I think its God who gives them their skills and he uses Dr's to heal sometimes instead of Divine healing. Jesus healed to show that he was who he said he was. You remember the woman who had an issue of blood. She had spent all her money on Drs and was still sick but when she reached out in faith and touched the hem of Jesus's garment ,she was healed.

The question isn't about denying those powers, the question is should we only depend on those powers.

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tericared
by on May. 26, 2010 at 3:09 PM

 I dont think doctors and meds are going against God's will.....He gave us free will and brains to evolve and to invent medicine and new technologies.....I dont think we could have gotten as far as we have with the medical field with out God's help...Without his influence and hand in certain peoples lives..

Woodbabe
by Silver Member on May. 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM


Quoting tericared:

 I dont think doctors and meds are going against God's will.....He gave us free will and brains to evolve and to invent medicine and new technologies.....I dont think we could have gotten as far as we have with the medical field with out God's help...Without his influence and hand in certain peoples lives..

Doctors have exceptional education and skills. Their goal is to preserve and save lives. Shouldn't non-medical personnel respect their decisions about what's truly important regarding a patient's health? They have a patient needing help in front of them. Aren't they morally obligated to do everything in their power to save that life, and should someone else have the right to make them let that patient die?

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Woodbabe
by Silver Member on May. 26, 2010 at 3:14 PM


Quoting margroc:

Let's not forget that the poster who got you thinking was one of the Schiavo family supporters in many posts on this board.  Their daughter's body was kept alive for 15 years using medical technology even though her brain was dead and apparently God's will at that time was to be hooked up to electronics.  It appears it's only "God's will" when it's convenient for her argument.

Good point.

~Parenting is not a Competitive Sport~
BleedinHeartMom
by on May. 26, 2010 at 3:15 PM

God gave us healing plants..he didn't intend for us to put a pill in us that has worse side effects than what the ailment is from aloe vera to hemp..but since big pharma cant make money off of God's pharmacy we are stuck with chemicals..

Many people today are allergic to the medicines that we use in hospitals or prescription drugs given to us by our doctors. Also many people have found different plants that do the same things as mass produced medication that we use today. Here are many different plants that treat different problems and diseases that people have world wide today.

The inner bark of the small palm tree contains chemicals that help prevent infection pain. A humorous name for this tree is the give and take plant.

The leaf of the cecropia tree is used in a tea to help treat hypertension and diabetes.

Ginger is known as a flavoring agent but also used to treat indigestion, gas pains, stomach aches, colds, motion sickness and morning sickness. Basically you boil the root to make a tea to treat all of these illnesses and pains. It could also be chewed. For muscle aches soak a towel in hot ginger tea and place on sore area.

Aloe Vera is well known to treat rashes, wounds and sunburn but aloe also speeds up the healing time of wounds. Also treats hair loss!!! Taken in large amounts may be toxic!!

Mexican heather is boiled to make a tea to either drink or to bathe people who have dynasty, infertility or fatigue.

Lemmon grass is made into a tea to treat fevers, colds and coughs. The extract of lemon grass shows to have antibacterial and antifungal qualities.

Coco beans contain chemicals that treat asthma and caffeine and Theobromine which are both stimulants.

Jackass bitters is used for many things including: intestinal parasites, malaria, fungus, ringworm and a wash to prevent wounds from infection. Also can be used to get rid of head lice. Can be used to treat diabetes.

Castor oil has been used as a laxative since ancient times. The leaves of the castor plant can be used as a poultice for wounds. THE SEEDS OF THIS PLANT HAVE A DEADLY POISON!!!! DO NOT USE UNLESS EXPIERENENCED IN DOING SO.

Cowfoot or ixkibix has been used for many years to slow or stop excess bleeding after childbirth and to cure heavy menstrual bleeding. A tea made from the bark can be used as a birth control but used for nine months or longer can cause permanent infertility!!!

Annatto was the source of pigment in lipstick and is still used today as a food coloring. A tea made of the leaves can treat diarrhea and bleeding ulcers also leaf poultices can be used on wounds.

The red hibiscus has been used to treat many bleeding disorders such as postpartum and hemorrhage. It also can prevent miscarriage.

Senna is made into a leaf tea, which is used for urinary tract infections and kidney ailments.

Banana leaves are commonly made into apoltice and applied derectly to a wound or burn.

The Trumpetflower contains atropine and scopolamine that may be used to open the airway in an asthma attack but an overdose may also cause hallucinations and possible death.

Jimsonweed also treated asthma and was thrown into the fire and inhaled to alleviate symptoms. Sometimes it was even rolled into cigarettes and smoked to treat asthma attacks.

Rosy periwinkle is the basis for a new medication vincristine that is used to treat childhood leukemia.

A tea of Sorosi vine or condiamor is useful as a bath to treat ticks and lice. As an oral medication it can be used to prevent dysentery and painful menses.

The Contribo flower is a huge flower that smells like rotting meat. It has been a popular treatment for colds, the flu and indigestion. Unfortunately it contains aristolich acid that can damage the kidney.

The gumbo limbo tree bark can be used as a poultice to treat rashes and snakebites.

Garlic contains allicin, which has been shown to reduce cholesterol levels and to reduce pallet adhesiveness. This in turn reduces the risk of heart attack and stroke.

Ginkgo contains glycosides, which are powerful antioxidants, which are effective in increasing intellectual capacity and vitality in aging people.

Feverfew contains parthenolide, which has been used to treat migraine headaches. Chewing a fresh leaf is the most effective method of treatment but may cause mouth ulcers.

Native Americans used the purple coneflower as a treatment for viral illness. It stimulates white blood cells and helps produce healthful compounds like interferon and properdin.


Cranberry juice is useful in the treatment of urinary tract infections by making it difficult for bacteria to stick to the cells lining the bladder.

Saw Palmetto contains factors, which inhibit the production of prostaglandin’s, which may be used in the treatment of benign prosaic hypertrophy.

The roots and rhizomes of Valerian have been used as a sleep aid for thousands of years.

Hawthorne is useful in treating heart failure.

Lemon balm has been shown to be effective in treating the herpes virus.

St. John’s Wort is used as an antidepressant.

Mammosa, a member of the eggplant family, is used to treat sinus infections.

Witch hazel is used to: make itch of insect bites disappear; Native Americans used witch hazel for tea.

Willow A. cures headaches B. prevents and cures malaria C. found near water.

Sweet flag is a water loving plant that is used both as candy and treatment for stomachaches.

Marsh mallow sooths sore throats also used as a powerful charm against witchcraft.

Chamomile teas treat upset stomachs and very high and high fevers.

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