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And God spoke and saith, "have a lot of sex to keep Satan away." And lo, Bible study just got awesome

Posted by on Jan. 28, 2013 at 8:07 AM
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1 Corinthians 7:5

New Living Translation (NLT)

Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

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MommaGreenhalge
by Member on Jan. 28, 2013 at 8:28 AM
Yep, that passage has always been there. Pretty cool, right?
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MeninaBallerina
by on Jan. 28, 2013 at 8:32 AM

When this verse was first explained to me I was told it meant you've got to have sex even if you don't want to (ie: "Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain..."). All set with that.

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 28, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Sounds like someone isn't getting any.

maciymommieof3
by Angie on Jan. 28, 2013 at 9:05 AM

 Oh sweetie.....I am sorry to hear about that.

Quoting Anonymous:

Sounds like someone isn't getting any.

 

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Yeah, i've read it before, it makes sense

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 28, 2013 at 9:34 AM

LOL Why so defensive??? Log off and give your old man some attention. ;)

Quoting maciymommieof3:

Oh sweetie.....I am sorry to hear about that.

Quoting Anonymous:

Sounds like someone isn't getting any.

Clairwil
by Silver Member on Jan. 30, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Quoting maciymommieof3:

 1 Corinthians 7:5

New Living Translation (NLT)

Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

Given the history of how that passage has been interpreted in the past, it is a little premature to go "Yay, Awesome!"

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II. Case Study: Marital Rape Justified By A Literalist Interpretation

A 1990 study conducted by Diana Russell showed that 10 to 14 percent of wives suffered marital rape. One of the causes of marital rape is the sexist view that wives belong to their husbands, therefore husbands are “entitled to sex” (Bergen 1996, Thio 2009, Ferro et al. 2008). Such views can be justified by literal interpretations of Genesis 3:16, 1 Corinthians 7:5, Ephesians 5:22-23, and Colossians 3:18-19.

Genesis 3:16 states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee” (KJV). Notice the last charge to the women from God, and he [the husband] shall rule over her. Interpreting this scripture literally, just as a king can demand service from his subordinates, a husband can demand service from his wife. If the service happens to be sex, if she is unwilling he has the God given right to enforce his ruling. 1 Corinthians 7:5 reads, “Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency” (KJV). The Apostle Paul is writing about sex and instructs them not to defraud or withhold sex from one another except it be with συμφωνος (consent). The Greek word συμφωνος means sounding together or accordant. This means that sex can only be withheld if both parties agree not to engage.

Literally, Paul writes that sex must occur as long as one desires it and can only be withheld if both agree to abstain. Paul writes in Ephesians 5:22-23, “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body” (KJV). Paul equates the superiority of the husband over his wife to Christ’s superiority over the church. Ergo saying “no” to your husband is like saying “no” to Christ? Paul issues the same writ of mandamus to the Colossian Church as well. When these scriptures are put behind the back drop of the husband’s desire for sex, the wife has no choice but to let him “rule over her.” Yet in America, non-consensual sex is rape no matter if in or outside of wedlock. Which side should Americans propagate, 85 ACE or 21st Century civil standards?

Mom2jngnc
by Stephannie on Jan. 31, 2013 at 2:34 PM

that would defidently spice up Bible study.

would have been a great opener for some of our past Moms Morning Out topics.

MaskedMomma
by Bronze Member on Jan. 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM

 yet another reason I don't go to church

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting maciymommieof3:

 1 Corinthians 7:5

New Living Translation (NLT)

Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

Given the history of how that passage has been interpreted in the past, it is a little premature to go "Yay, Awesome!"

------------------------------------------------------------------

(source)

II. Case Study: Marital Rape Justified By A Literalist Interpretation

A 1990 study conducted by Diana Russell showed that 10 to 14 percent of wives suffered marital rape. One of the causes of marital rape is the sexist view that wives belong to their husbands, therefore husbands are “entitled to sex” (Bergen 1996, Thio 2009, Ferro et al. 2008). Such views can be justified by literal interpretations of Genesis 3:16, 1 Corinthians 7:5, Ephesians 5:22-23, and Colossians 3:18-19.

 

Genesis 3:16 states, “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee” (KJV). Notice the last charge to the women from God, and he [the husband] shall rule over her. Interpreting this scripture literally, just as a king can demand service from his subordinates, a husband can demand service from his wife. If the service happens to be sex, if she is unwilling he has the God given right to enforce his ruling. 1 Corinthians 7:5 reads, “Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency” (KJV). The Apostle Paul is writing about sex and instructs them not to defraud or withhold sex from one another except it be with συμφωνος (consent). The Greek word συμφωνος means sounding together or accordant. This means that sex can only be withheld if both parties agree not to engage.

 

Literally, Paul writes that sex must occur as long as one desires it and can only be withheld if both agree to abstain. Paul writes in Ephesians 5:22-23, “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body” (KJV). Paul equates the superiority of the husband over his wife to Christ’s superiority over the church. Ergo saying “no” to your husband is like saying “no” to Christ? Paul issues the same writ of mandamus to the Colossian Church as well. When these scriptures are put behind the back drop of the husband’s desire for sex, the wife has no choice but to let him “rule over her.” Yet in America, non-consensual sex is rape no matter if in or outside of wedlock. Which side should Americans propagate, 85 ACE or 21st Century civil standards?

 

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jan. 31, 2013 at 4:53 PM
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Clairwil, didn't you claim you were a submissive wife??

 

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