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Should preschools be allowed to ban non-vax'd kids?

Posted by on May. 7, 2013 at 9:29 AM
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Kids Who Haven't Been Vaccinated May Be Banned From Preschool

by Michele Zipp

vaccinationI'm afraid we've become a society with too much fear -- a crippling fear -- that we alienate those with different beliefs than we have. And this belief I'm talking about specifically is vaccinations. No one wants to get sick (well maybe those who are into lollipop parties are the exception). No one wants nearly eradicated diseases to creep back and hurt anyone. We don't have to get all crazy and start banning children who aren't vaccinated from attending child care centers and preschools, do we? Or should we?

The Sunday Telegraph and Daily Telegraph in Australia are launching their own pro-vax campaign called 'No jab, no play' with a nod from the medical association. The vaccination rates in the suburbs of Sydney and Manly are below 85 percent -- a high rate is considered 95 percent. The goal is to stop no-vax kids from entering child care facilities and preschools, and to punish their "free-riding" parents (their phrase) who refuse or forget to get their kids immunized. 

Dr Steve Hambleton told The Sunday Telegraph:

We need to lift the barriers, we need people to make an active decision to immunise because we have a responsibility to our children to protect them, and a responsibility to the community to contribute to herd immunity.

So what do we do here? Force vaccinations? Herd immunity is reportedly only fully effective if around 95 percent of the population is immunized. Is that even possible? What about the kids who really can't get certain vaccinations?

He goes on to say "The free-riders will actually cause a disease to occur in vaccinated children whose parents did the responsible thing." Isn't that proof that our vaccinations aren't working? 

Last year in my small town one of the kids at a private school contracted measles after a trip overseas. The child was in school, but sent home. The proper precautions were taken and no other child was affected. So should we add that we should never travel outside of our country to the list on how to best protect our kids from contracting anything? Where's the bubble? Do we need to stay indoors?!

My kids are vaccinated. But I'm not afraid to let them play with kids who haven't been fully immunized. Nor am I fearful of letting my kids play with kids who have runny noses either. Germs don't scare me. Some of the chemicals in hand sanitizers do. I don't believe we should keep our kids in Purell bottles.

This is about choice. Parents should be able to choose not to vaccinate their kids. And perhaps that choice should also apply to private schools, specifically preschools and child care centers. Maybe they should have the right to refuse kids who haven't been vaccinated if they so wish. Would all preschools do this? I don't think so. How would this effect communities? I'm not so sure, but I'm sure it would create a divide. Oh your kids attend that preschool ... some moms would say with uncertainly and fear in their voices when meeting families that attend the "conscientious objector" or no-vax school. Some are even calling to change the anti-vax conscientious objector tag with "vaccine refusers." That's certainly to the point. Is this discrimination? In their quest to create herd immunity are they bullying the anti-vax crowd? It seems they are. And the divide gets even bigger.

What do you think? Should preschools be allowed to ban no-vax kids if they wish? Should they not allow any of the loopholes parents use when they don't vaccinate? Do you vax?

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gammie
by on May. 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Public school no, Private school yes

Kids learn better at home school anyway. When my kids started school they were already ahead of the rest.

fullxbusymom
by Bronze Member on May. 7, 2013 at 3:27 PM

If they are private preschools they already can.

GertieK
by Silver Member on May. 7, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Amazing - if the vaccines work so great, why are vaccinated kids afraid of the kids who are not vaccinated?  Seems like the unvaxed kids are the ones who have more to worry about.  Vaccinated kids are actually contagious for a time.  That is how vaccine works, it gives you a small "dose" of the disease.  Always amazing how things get so twisted.

HunnyBabie
by Bronze Member on May. 7, 2013 at 4:48 PM

They are.  It's their God-given liberty to refuse service to anyone they don't want there.

The question is this:
Should the state or federal government be allowed to regulate which children a pre-school refuses?

I say, "No!"

Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on May. 7, 2013 at 5:17 PM

I don't have judgement on parents the don't vax but personally I have one child with a compromised immune system as is with current vaccines. I don't want her exposed to anything that can cause her harm. I have to worry about the common cold I don't want to worry about something that can be prevented.

 

It is still the parents choice.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 2 on May. 7, 2013 at 5:43 PM


They work about 70% of the time.  Most vaccines are NOT live and no you are not contagious unless they are live and not airborne contagious like the disease is.  Twisted things??

Private schools can do as they please, any private school. 

Quoting GertieK:

Amazing - if the vaccines work so great, why are vaccinated kids afraid of the kids who are not vaccinated?  Seems like the unvaxed kids are the ones who have more to worry about.  Vaccinated kids are actually contagious for a time.  That is how vaccine works, it gives you a small "dose" of the disease.  Always amazing how things get so twisted.



Anonymous
by Anonymous 3 on May. 8, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Sure, if it's unsafe for them to be around other kids who are sick with whatever they haven't been vaccinated for.

PINKmyfavcolor
by Member on May. 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM

 I think they should be able to enforce whatever rules and guidelines they like for the sake of safety, as long as they have something to back up their position, like statistics on how many unvaccinated children get sick and cause others to get sick, or vice versa.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 4 on May. 8, 2013 at 4:38 PM
I sure do
nicolee0821
by on May. 9, 2013 at 7:44 AM
Anything involving government funding requires a damn vaccine.
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