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First family outrageous cost of their African vacation

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Record cost between 60 and 100 million for a VACATION. Just crazy in our economic times. Oh, they they won't do a safari because that would add to the cost. Nice of them, (sarcasm)
Posted by Anonymous on Jun. 14, 2013 at 9:12 AM
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GaleJ
by on Jun. 16, 2013 at 5:41 AM
While these kind of numbers are staggeringly high the idea of our president taking such trips is well established and the presidents from both parties have done it. I may not like the costs but accept them as a very necessary evil to protect our president and our first family as they travel representing our country to the rest of the world.
Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Jun. 16, 2013 at 9:37 AM


The other presidents didn't spend like this one and have us so much more in debt and didn't have a sequester also.  That is why this is more of a news story than ever before plus him spending so much more on this trip than others too.  It is all that combined. 

Quoting GaleJ:

While these kind of numbers are staggeringly high the idea of our president taking such trips is well established and the presidents from both parties have done it. I may not like the costs but accept them as a very necessary evil to protect our president and our first family as they travel representing our country to the rest of the world.



nova.mommy
by Bronze Member on Jun. 16, 2013 at 10:18 AM

The vacation itself does not cost that much.  The security and such does.  Would you want our president, no matter who it is, go to a semi-volitile region(but isn't that most places around the world and some places in the US) and not have security?  The total cost also includes the President’s staff and White House Press Corps, not just the first family.

Quoting Anonymous:


I just put an article up.  Yep, it does cost 40 mil+. 

Quoting marchantmom06:

That's bullshit, no vacation cost even a million dollars, much less 60, but by all means lets believe the idiots who get paid to berate the president.




bhow
by Bronze Member on Jun. 16, 2013 at 10:33 AM

his HOME is in TEXAS, it's not like "we" paid for their lodging...daa.

Quoting Annsf:

George W. took 2 trips to Africa besides almost weekly vacas to Texas. Guess those don't count.


How2Be

Anonymous
by Anonymous on Jun. 16, 2013 at 10:45 AM
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The President should have taken a vacation in the United States. His security would cost less and he would boost the economy in the area he chose to vacation. Millions of people are laid off due to the sequester. We do not have a balanced budget, and have not since he has been in office. He is a poor example. It is funny how people on here will complain that "rich people" don't help poor people enough. They complain when we post about our vacations, but will defend the President tooth and nail for his 60 mil tax payer funded vacation.
nova.mommy
by Bronze Member on Jun. 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Yes, but George W. Bush spent at least $20 million taxpayer dollars just on flights to his ranch in Crawford.  And that does not include staff and security expenses.

Quoting bhow:

his HOME is in TEXAS, it's not like "we" paid for their lodging...daa.

Quoting Annsf:

George W. took 2 trips to Africa besides almost weekly vacas to Texas. Guess those don't count.



Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Jun. 16, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Exactly, and he is spending 20 to 40 mil more than the last. I know what the money is spent on.


Quoting nova.mommy:

The vacation itself does not cost that much.  The security and such does.  Would you want our president, no matter who it is, go to a semi-volitile region(but isn't that most places around the world and some places in the US) and not have security?  The total cost also includes the President’s staff and White House Press Corps, not just the first family.

Quoting Anonymous:


I just put an article up.  Yep, it does cost 40 mil+. 


Quoting marchantmom06:

That's bullshit, no vacation cost even a million dollars, much less 60, but by all means lets believe the idiots who get paid to berate the president.






Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Jun. 16, 2013 at 11:08 AM
He wouldn't need a floating hospital in the US either.


Quoting Anonymous:

The President should have taken a vacation in the United States. His security would cost less and he would boost the economy in the area he chose to vacation. Millions of people are laid off due to the sequester. We do not have a balanced budget, and have not since he has been in office. He is a poor example. It is funny how people on here will complain that "rich people" don't help poor people enough. They complain when we post about our vacations, but will defend the President tooth and nail for his 60 mil tax payer funded vacation.

nova.mommy
by Bronze Member on Jun. 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM

The Washington Post story didn’t say that Obama’s trip will cost $100 million, but that the trip could cost $60-100 million, and that the cost was based on similar African trips made in recent years, “Obama’s trip could cost the federal government $60 million to $100 million based on the costs of similar African trips in recent years, according to one person familiar with the journey, who was not authorized to speak for attribution.”

President Obama hasn’t made any trips to Africa, except a 22 hour stopover in Ghana in 2009, so it is pretty clear that Secret Service is basing their cost estimate on the cost of the Bush trips. Since George W. Bush made two presidential trips to Africa, it is likely that he spent more money in today’s dollars as President Obama will on his trip.

The reality is that presidential trips are expensive. It would be fair to be opposed to all of them, but the hypocrisy of only being outraged when certain presidents travel is unacceptable. George W. Bush appears to have had himself quite a little African spending spree, but apparently cost only matters when Barack Obama is the president who is doing the traveling.

from Washington Post

Among the 56 vehicles for the trip are parade limousines for the president and first lady, a specialized communications vehicle for secure telephone and video connections, a truck that jams radio frequencies around the presidential motorcade, a fully loaded ambulance that can handle biological or chemical contaminants and a truck for X-ray equipment.

The Secret Service transports such vehicles, along with bulletproof glass, on most trips, including those inside the United States, White House officials said. But with quick stops in three countries, the agency will need three sets of each, because there is not enough time to transfer the equipment, according to the planning document.

One hundred agents are needed as “post-standers” — to man security checkpoints and borders around the president — in each of the first three cities he visits. Sixty-five are needed to meet up with Obama in Dar es Salaam. Before the safari in Mikumi National Park was canceled last week, an additional 35 post-standers had been slated to protect the Obamas and their two daughters there, according to the document.

Anonymous
by Anonymous - Original Poster on Jun. 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Clintons was 42 mil. Huge difference between 100 mil and 42 mil. That isn't similar at all. We don't have 40 mil to spare.

Quoting nova.mommy:

The Washington Post story didn’t say that Obama’s trip will cost $100 million, but that the trip could cost $60-100 million, and that the cost was based on similar African trips made in recent years, “Obama’s trip could cost the federal government $60 million to $100 million based on the costs of similar African trips in recent years, according to one person familiar with the journey, who was not authorized to speak for attribution.”

President Obama hasn’t made any trips to Africa, except a 22 hour stopover in Ghana in 2009, so it is pretty clear that Secret Service is basing their cost estimate on the cost of the Bush trips. Since George W. Bush made two presidential trips to Africa, it is likely that he spent more money in today’s dollars as President Obama will on his trip.

The reality is that presidential trips are expensive. It would be fair to be opposed to all of them, but the hypocrisy of only being outraged when certain presidents travel is unacceptable. George W. Bush appears to have had himself quite a little African spending spree, but apparently cost only matters when Barack Obama is the president who is doing the traveling.

from Washington Post

Among the 56 vehicles for the trip are parade limousines for the president and first lady, a specialized communications vehicle for secure telephone and video connections, a truck that jams radio frequencies around the presidential motorcade, a fully loaded ambulance that can handle biological or chemical contaminants and a truck for X-ray equipment.

The Secret Service transports such vehicles, along with bulletproof glass, on most trips, including those inside the United States, White House officials said. But with quick stops in three countries, the agency will need three sets of each, because there is not enough time to transfer the equipment, according to the planning document.

One hundred agents are needed as “post-standers” — to man security checkpoints and borders around the president — in each of the first three cities he visits. Sixty-five are needed to meet up with Obama in Dar es Salaam. Before the safari in Mikumi National Park was canceled last week, an additional 35 post-standers had been slated to protect the Obamas and their two daughters there, according to the document.



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