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Court Tries Forcing Mom to Circumcise Son Because Dad Wants It Done??

Posted by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 9:39 AM
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Court Tries Forcing Mom to Circumcise Son Because Dad Wants It Done

by Michele Zipp

one way signCircumcision is a personal decision a family makes -- it's also often a religious one. But what happens when a couple disagrees? I'm certain that happens a lot and one partner ends up changing their stance on the matter, but what if they don't? The courts can get involved. At least that's what happened to one couple who cannot agree on whether or not to circumcise their son. One Israeli couple is currently going through a divorce and the mother says that the father initially agreed to leave their son uncircumcised, but has since changed his mind after going through divorce proceedings.

The mother is currently being fined $140 a day for every day she refuses to agree to her son being circumcised. It's been six days so far and she hasn't budged. The family has kept their identity private but the mother said, "I have no right to cut his organ and mutilate him. And the court has no right to force me to do so."

This is a rabbinical court and they have said, "circumcision is a standard surgical procedure that is performed on every Jewish baby boy, so when one of the parents demands it, the other cannot delay it."  So she's being fined and there is a chance it could end up in Supreme Court if they cannot agree.

Most parents don't reach this kind of impasse, but disagreements on circumcision happen a lot. It may even be one of the topics discussed before you get married and way before you even think about having kids with someone. It's not the kind of disagreement you want to face when pregnant ... or like in this case, going through a divorce after just having a baby.

Without putting your own opinion on circumcision into the mix, when you are going through a divorce it's still vital for both parents to agree on everything going on with the kids. This sure puts my debate with my ex over giving my son a haircut into perspective. In my case, when one parent didn't get their way (me), it didn't carry the kind of weight this situation does. However, I was strongly against my son getting his hair cut simply because my son didn't want a haircut. I felt it should be his decision to make -- not mine, not his father's. Plus, I will admit that I loved his long hair -- it never knotted, and he loved it as well. His father ... not so much. When my ex cut my son's hair without consulting me about it, I felt betrayed. My feelings, my co-parenting, wasn't considered. And my son's feelings weren't considered either. If we were instead dealing with a disagreement on circumcision, it would be much more difficult.

Should circumcision be a man's decision? One father thinks so, as does this father. Both parents must feel they just want to make the right decision for their son -- and they clearly feel very strongly about it. And whatever ends up happening, one parent is going to feel that their say in what happens with their son isn't taken into consideration, as if their rights as a parent were taken away. What an awful feeling that is.

What would you do (or have done) if you and your partner do not agree on circumcision? What do you think of this case? What should happen?

by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 9:39 AM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Nov. 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Should be a discussion before having kids or before marrying even. I think the Dad should have slightly more imput. Had we had boys yes, they would have and dh and I agree.
Twix.Leigh
by Member on Nov. 28, 2013 at 10:15 AM
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This is silly. He changed his mind because their divorcing? They already agreed. Of course he'll win though right.. I feel for the mother. And child. The father sound vindictive.
PinkButterfly66
by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 11:48 AM
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circumcision should be the decision of the person who's penis is under the threat of circumcision.  Why can't parents wait until the boy is old enough to make the decision for himself?

MommaForever007
by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 11:51 AM
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Until they can agree, nothing should be done. That's not something you can undo. Nothing happens till a compromise/agreement is reached
Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Nov. 28, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Because it is painful and they remember. They don't remember at 2 days old and it is done and over.


Quoting PinkButterfly66:

circumcision should be the decision of the person who's penis is under the threat of circumcision.  Why can't parents wait until the boy is old enough to make the decision for himself?


PinkButterfly66
by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM

It is THEIR body.  Shouldn't THEY be able to make the choice whether to mutilate it or not?

Quoting Anonymous:

Because it is painful and they remember. They don't remember at 2 days old and it is done and over.


Quoting PinkButterfly66:

circumcision should be the decision of the person who's penis is under the threat of circumcision.  Why can't parents wait until the boy is old enough to make the decision for himself?



Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Nov. 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM
It is not mutilating. At least not to many. Call it what you want.


Quoting PinkButterfly66:

It is THEIR body.  Shouldn't THEY be able to make the choice whether to mutilate it or not?

Quoting Anonymous:

Because it is painful and they remember. They don't remember at 2 days old and it is done and over.





Quoting PinkButterfly66:

circumcision should be the decision of the person who's penis is under the threat of circumcision.  Why can't parents wait until the boy is old enough to make the decision for himself?





PinkButterfly66
by on Nov. 28, 2013 at 12:23 PM

It is still THEIR body.  Why are we chopping off peices of it without their permission?

Quoting Anonymous:

It is not mutilating. At least not to many. Call it what you want.


Quoting PinkButterfly66:

It is THEIR body.  Shouldn't THEY be able to make the choice whether to mutilate it or not?

Quoting Anonymous:

Because it is painful and they remember. They don't remember at 2 days old and it is done and over.





Quoting PinkButterfly66:

circumcision should be the decision of the person who's penis is under the threat of circumcision.  Why can't parents wait until the boy is old enough to make the decision for himself?






randi1978
by Bronze Member on Nov. 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM

I don't care what religion they are, the dad doesn't have the right to change his mind and then try to court order it.  I'd tell the courts to stuff it, too.  The dad needs to get the fuck over it and stop trying to be a vindictive prick, which is clearly the case here.

Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 on Nov. 28, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Agree to disagree. Not gotta debate.


Quoting PinkButterfly66:

It is still THEIR body.  Why are we chopping off peices of it without their permission?

Quoting Anonymous:

It is not mutilating. At least not to many. Call it what you want.





Quoting PinkButterfly66:

It is THEIR body.  Shouldn't THEY be able to make the choice whether to mutilate it or not?

Quoting Anonymous:

Because it is painful and they remember. They don't remember at 2 days old and it is done and over.








Quoting PinkButterfly66:

circumcision should be the decision of the person who's penis is under the threat of circumcision.  Why can't parents wait until the boy is old enough to make the decision for himself?









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