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WTF is wrong with people. Sick of this crap.

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Atheists are trying to oust the “Miracle Cross” from the 9/11 museum, arguing that its inclusion would violate the Constitution’s separation of church and state.

But Eric Baxster of the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty told MyFoxNY that the cross is part of the story of 9/11 and that museums don't censor history.

“They tell history as it happened,” Baxster said.

The 17-foot cross-shaped beam was discovered in the devastation at Ground Zero and became a symbol of comfort and hope after the horrific terrorist attack.

But the group American Atheists says the cross is a part of religious history and is challenging its inclusion in the new National Sept. 11 Memorial and Museum which opens in May.

“We’re arguing for equal treatment in some way, whatever that might be.”

- Edwin Kagin, attorney for American Atheists

The group said the cross should not be in a museum that is on Port Authority property and financed by taxpayers.

In arguments before the U.S. Court of Appeals in Manhattan, American Atheists' lawyer Edwin Kagin said his organization is seeking a similar object to be displayed at the museum, something like a plaque that would say “atheists died here, too,” the Religion News Service reported.

“We’re arguing for equal treatment in some way, whatever that might be,” Kagin said after the hearing.

The museum's lawyer, Mark Alcott, told the court that rescue workers took comfort in the cross and they prayed to it as a religious object.

“But there is a difference between displaying an artifact of historical significance and saying we want you [the public] to bless it -- museum-goers understand that distinction” he said, according to London's Telegraph newspaper.

The newspaper said Judge Reena Raggi appeared skeptical of the claims by the atheist group.

“There are countless cases of museums including religious artifacts among their exhibits and it’s going to be described in a way that talks about the history of the object, what is the problem here?” she said. “An argument has been made that you are trying to censor history.”

Construction worker Frank Silecchia discovered the beam in the smoldering wreckage of the World Trade Center towers. He told the “Today” show that the cross comforted him, and it soon became a rallying point for first responders, according to Religion News Service.

“I was already working 12 hours. I was quite weary and the cross comforted me,” Silecchia said. “I never stood here before any media and said it’s about religion. But I say it’s about faith — the faith that was crushed on 9/11.”

The cross will be part of a display that includes 1,000 artifacts in a 100,000-square-foot underground museum.

The appeals court is expected to make a decision in several months

Posted by Anonymous on Mar. 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM
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Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Mar. 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM
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This is a part of the 911 history.  Don't look at it if it offends you that much.  I swear people get more stupid every day in the US. 

Anonymous
by Anonymous 1 - Original Poster on Mar. 10, 2014 at 5:36 PM

bump

Rust.n.Gears
by Member on Mar. 10, 2014 at 5:38 PM
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As a pagan I completely believe this should be there. Its part of the history. Faith is not the point.
amanda.lyn
by on Mar. 10, 2014 at 5:40 PM
OP, I agree with you... It's part of the story, not discrimination.
sierra5625
by on Mar. 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM
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Goood god. One day we will have NOTHING because apparently everything offends someone!
If you dont like it, dont look at it!
lemondrop86
by on Mar. 10, 2014 at 5:45 PM
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 why do people always have to do this? We can never have any peace....

MeAndTommyLee
by Member on Mar. 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM

I think this is past ridiculous.  

auntangelofsix
by Angel on Mar. 10, 2014 at 11:14 PM
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Connie04
by Silver Member on Mar. 11, 2014 at 12:02 AM
Some people do not know when they need to sit down and shut up. The cross is about continuing faith after the devastation of the attacks.. As has been pointed out by other moms, if they don't like it, they don't have to look at it.
momofthem311
by Silver Member on Mar. 11, 2014 at 7:37 AM
As a non believer, I can say what's the big deal? I've gone to many museums where there are religious items being displayed. I just walk on by and look at something else. In other situations I would argue separation of church and state but I'm not sure how that applies here.
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