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Mother spanked kids, charged as terrorist, and lost custody of kids...

Posted by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM
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Have you heard about the mother who spanked her kids a Frontier flight?  Here's the story...

Story HERE


L.A. Times
Tuesday, January 20, 2009

At least 200 passengers have been convicted of felonies under the Patriot Act, often for behavior involving raised voices and profanity. Some experts say airlines are misusing the law.

Reporting from Los Angeles and Oklahoma City — Tamera Jo Freeman was on a Frontier Airlines flight to Denver in 2007 when her two children began to quarrel over the window shade and then spilled a Bloody Mary into her lap.

She spanked each of them on the thigh with three swats. It was a small incident, but one that in the heightened anxiety after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks would eventually have enormous ramifications for Freeman and her children.

A flight attendant confronted Freeman, who responded by hurling a few profanities and throwing what remained of a can of tomato juice on the floor.

The incident aboard the Frontier flight ultimately led to Freeman’s arrest and conviction for a federal felony defined as an act of terrorism under the Patriot Act, the controversial federal law enacted after the 2001 attacks in New York and Washington.

“I had no idea I was breaking the law,” said Freeman, 40, who spent three months in jail before pleading guilty.

Freeman is one of at least 200 people on flights who have been convicted under the amended law. In most of the cases, there was no evidence that the passengers had attempted to hijack the airplane or physically attack any of the flight crew. Many have simply involved raised voices, foul language and drunken behavior...

The costs of a conviction can be enormous. In Tamera Freeman's case, it cost her custody of her children.

The confrontation on the Frontier Airlines flight to Denver was particularly harsh, recalled Amy Fleming, the flight attendant who told Freeman to stop spanking her children. In a recent interview, Fleming called Freeman the most unruly passenger she had seen in 11 years on the job.

"Absolutely she deserved a felony conviction," she said.

But at least one passenger, John Carlson, a defense attorney who was seated near Freeman, said there was no threat. "There was a nasty, loud exchange," Carlson said. Then Freeman "capitulated and offered no resistance. My sympathy shifted to her."

A spokeswoman for Frontier said the airline has provided more training for flight attendants since 2001, including classes on "ways to calm a situation before it reaches a boiling point or physical confrontation."

After three months in jail, Freeman agreed to plead guilty in exchange for being released on probation. A court-appointed attorney told her that a plea deal would be the fastest way to see her children, who had been taken back to Hawaii and put into foster care.

Her probation required her to stay in Oklahoma City, where she grew up, and prohibited her from flying. Meanwhile, legal proceedings in Hawaii have begun to allow the children's foster parents to adopt them.

Freeman has been denied permission to attend custody hearings in Maui over the last six months, court records show.

"I have cried. I have cried for my children every day," Freeman said. "I feel the system is failing me."



by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM
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samthecat001
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

i think the charges are extreme BUT i also think it says a lot that she hit her children on the thigh for spilling her alcoholic beverage.  mmmm......  then she goes and shouts profamities and throws that drink on the ground.  wow...she's a treasure.

 




  

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hlewis
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

THAT IS SO SAD!!!  GIVE THAT MOM HER BABIES BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lanie_momofone
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

That is sad!!! And anyone who wants to bash this woman, should not even bother, you dont know her, and you dont know just how much the children were acting up for them to receive the three smacks on the thigh. As for the yelling , yea ...she shouldnt have done that. But to tear a family apart? That is ridiculous!

kcangel63
by Bronze Member on Jan. 21, 2009 at 4:58 PM


Quoting samthecat001:

i think the charges are extreme BUT i also think it says a lot that she hit her children on the thigh for spilling her alcoholic beverage.  mmmm......  then she goes and shouts profamities and throws that drink on the ground.  wow...she's a treasure.

Really, though, I know that as a mother of 5, I have lost it with them, DH and others before.  It's not right, and I shouldn't have done it, but I did.  I have to imagine that the FA didn't do much to make it better.  I wonder what she said to the mother.  If the mother would have known that she would now be a dangerous terrorist and have her kids adopted out to another family, she probably would have done things differently. 



smileywife
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 5:01 PM

that really is just the sadest

 

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Cara5
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Im not nominating her for mother of the year by any stretch.. but even the most badly behaved parents deserve at least to be at the damn custody hearing where the state is trying to give her children away.   That is just not right.  She should not have behaved the way she did, but she should have been scolded... fined maybe, sent to anger management and a parenting class even... but kept in in the continental united states while her children are shipped back to an ISLAND and then told she is restricted from flying???? WTF???   There is so much wrong with this.

 Lauren & Cara MOMS of SIX great kids!!! 

Mom2theboy1994
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM

You said word for word what I was thinking!

Quoting samthecat001:

i think the charges are extreme BUT i also think it says a lot that she hit her children on the thigh for spilling her alcoholic beverage.  mmmm......  then she goes and shouts profamities and throws that drink on the ground.  wow...she's a treasure.


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Teeshann
by Silver Member on Jan. 21, 2009 at 5:08 PM

so she spanked her kids on an airplane and now they are going to let someone else adopt her kids. WOW. that is just ridiculous. sure she could have handled the situation better. but how long was she in the airport with unruly children and her nerves were frazzled and that was just the last straw? everyone loses their temper at some point. and she's a terrorist for back talking an attendant. sorry but that just makes me laugh. the whole thing was just handled badly.

Ayla-bellesmom
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Crazy, turns out you can go to jail for being an asshole these days. Nuts.


I'm a Vaccinating, breast and formula feeding, non-spanking, non-religious, walking around my house naked, porn loving, taking my man to the strippers for his 26th birthday, eating cookies for breakfast in my underwear, having friends of the opposite sex, co-ed bathing, picking it up on the floor and putting it in my kids mouth, cleaning the house when I feel like it, TV watching, swearing like a sailor, scratching my ass in a public place while wearing pajamas, lying to my kid about Santa, hardcore liberal, drink or two having, not giving a good god damn what the hell you do in your own home, kind of mom.


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MamaSyn
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM

It's not shocking that this happened.  The courts have been failing parents for years.  It appalls me that everyone is so keen on taking others' children away, especially considering the inept foster care system.  Those poor children, and that poor mother.  I don't think she was right for even drinking with her kids on the plane, but taking her kids away for yelling and a swat on the leg?  Really?  Is that how extreme we've gotten as a country?  Now who's going to raise the children, and what if they're worse? 

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