Okay, so I say to my dh that we really should get the kids into a school bedtime schedule before school actually starts especially my ds since this is the first year he will have to get up early for school. I was thinking starting over the weekend or next week. Problem is that bedtime is 8:30-9:00 and it doesn't even get dark til 9:30 or so. That and kids are used to staying up a little late because of summer time. Any ideas or suggestions?