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  i f***ing HATE my kids' school! I hate it! ever since my son started pre-k i've had nothing but issues with that place. ok maybe not pre-k but definitely kindergarten. here i'll explain. Pre-k: everything is good, he did great the teacher was a little snooty but other than that we had no problems. Kindergarten: OMFG his teacher was satan incarnate. I hated this women to the point where she and everyone else knew my feelings. why you ask? because when a five year old says something about his bookbag being dumb thats a normal kid thing, right? well oh no, she went ahead and said she was going to put soap in his mouth. he told me of course so i told her "um no you wont and please dont threaten my son, it wont be pretty." fast forward a few weeks i get told by my son that she threatened to tie him to his chair. does this woman want to lose her job? again i went in and said if she doesnt cut the crap i will have her job. a few weeks later? yeah he came home and his arm was red. this you-know-what grabbed his arm so hard it left a red mark. i flipped out and went to the school and darn near got arrested because i was going to break her arm. fast forward to first grade, no complaints, his teacher was a saint and i still let her know that she is the best teacher by far at the school, we just loved her. 2nd grade his teacher is a pompous toad. because i had him at 18 she assumed that i didnt have an education, i simply let her know that i graduated high school with honors and in the top ten of my class and was accepted into Niagara University when I was only in tenth grade, lets not go there. she was constantly talking down to all the parents and the kids hated her. my breaking point was as we were walking towards the car, my son picked up something that fell in the snow this woman grabbed his arm so hard that it actually yanked me back...and im a big girl! (not fat, but tall and chubby lol) i was floored! she had my kids arm in a death grip! so what did i do? i asked her if she liked her arm, because if she didnt let go of my son i was going to take it home with me. smh. now we are in 3rd grade...yay us. no problems thus far with teacher until this morning when my son was putting on this diabolical belt that even i have a hard time fastening i said "why dont you put on a different one, what if you have to use the bathroom?" he said "no, im not allowed to use the bathroom at all anyways" excuse me? what? huh? oh no, we dont do that. hubby even looked appalled. kids can exaggerate so i said im sure you can, he said no. so i told him i dont care what your teacher tells you if you really have to go, if it is an emergency and she is still telling you no, you get your butt up and who cares what she says and get to the bathroom. You are not going to get sick because she doesnt want to let you use the bathroom. i freaking hate this school. thankfully we are looking at houses soon and i am trying to move way out of district so they dont even have to go to the high school thats connected with the little asylum they call Maple Avenue Elementary school. it brings out the worst in me. i am such a laid back person and this institution makes me want to lash out and beat the crap out of someone. ugh! ok i need more coffee and i just needed to get that off my chest. dumbass school. i should add that when he gets homework i am the one teaching him how to do it since he is completely clueless, it's almost as if the teacher isnt doing her job

by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 8:30 AM
Replies (11-20):
mary841108
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:14 AM

 their side, it was 3 teachers. i can give you their names, the school they work at and the city in which we live. along with a list of parents that also have major complaints against said teachers/school/district. i warn you, the list of parents might be crazy long lol. our school district was voted one of the worst in the state. Oh and i never disrespect the teachers in front of my kids. the whole do you like your arm thing was whispered to where only she  and i could hear it. Now, if these were your kids and all this happened to them would you not be upset and angry? and the only thing i am omitting would be how awesome the first grade teacher was and yes the pre k teacher was snooty but she did a good job with the kids and they all seemed to love her. but i cant say enough about the first grade teacher lol we just loved her!!! and yes i know they cant tell your kid they cant use the bathroom, doesnt mean they dont though. i had a teacher tell me i couldnt even though i was clearly 8 months pregnant (i just walked out and went and that was study hall lol we weren't doing anything of importance, passing notes and goofing off)

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Former teacher here:

I also highly suspect there is a great deal you are omitting from this story for attention-gaining reasons for yourself.

In all fairness to the teacher, as usual in this type of ranting, venting post, I would love to hear her side of it.  She is not here to defend herself.

I do not have much sympathy for a Mother who has to use foul language in an arrogant tone of voice to get her point across.

It is very telling about you.

Veronica


 

Amanda52007
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:16 AM
Yeah.......no.

Really?! You think threatening a teacher is the best you can do?
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mjande4
by Platinum Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:18 AM

You were pregnant in high school!?  Oh my.  SMH!

Quoting mary841108:

 their side, it was 3 teachers. i can give you their names, the school they work at and the city in which we live. along with a list of parents that also have major complaints against said teachers/school/district. i warn you, the list of parents might be crazy long lol. our school district was voted one of the worst in the state. Oh and i never disrespect the teachers in front of my kids. the whole do you like your arm thing was whispered to where only she  and i could hear it. Now, if these were your kids and all this happened to them would you not be upset and angry? and the only thing i am omitting would be how awesome the first grade teacher was and yes the pre k teacher was snooty but she did a good job with the kids and they all seemed to love her. but i cant say enough about the first grade teacher lol we just loved her!!! and yes i know they cant tell your kid they cant use the bathroom, doesnt mean they dont though. i had a teacher tell me i couldnt even though i was clearly 8 months pregnant (i just walked out and went and that was study hall lol we weren't doing anything of importance, passing notes and goofing off)

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Former teacher here:

I also highly suspect there is a great deal you are omitting from this story for attention-gaining reasons for yourself.

In all fairness to the teacher, as usual in this type of ranting, venting post, I would love to hear her side of it.  She is not here to defend herself.

I do not have much sympathy for a Mother who has to use foul language in an arrogant tone of voice to get her point across.

It is very telling about you.

Veronica


 


mary841108
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:19 AM

 oh no college educated here lol i was venting about my kids school. like i said im not the only one with complaints against the school let alone the district. its not a lie when i say it is one of the worst in the state and the district is finally recognizing that. i have a mouth on me when i get upset, lord knows i do lol but i didnt cuss at the teachers just told them how i felt and if it didnt stop i would get really mean.

jillbailey26
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:19 AM

I'm basing my opinion off of your post.  So no, you don't seem very nice.  You're quick to fly off the handle.  You could have told the lady "He was picking up a pencil, not making a snowball, please let him go," but no, you threatened to rip her arm off.  You're child sees you treating people this way.

Quoting mary841108:

 actually he went to pick up a pencil out of the snowand swooped in like a bat out of hell grabbed his arm and said we dont do snowballs! so no. i am a very nice person, until it comes to my kids then its all bets off.

Quoting jillbailey26:

You threatened to rip a woman's arm out of her socket and take it home with you.  I'd say that's a little over the top.  It sounds like she grabbed him because he fell, possibly to help you.

I would ask about the bathroom thing before you jump to conclusions.  They're not allowed to tell the kids they can't use the bathroom at all.  

As I said, I'm not saying that they're not wrong, but you could also be a little nicer.

Quoting mary841108:

 no over the top is when i slap the you know what out of a teacher. that kindergarten teacher was just plain evil (i did manage to get her fired though, i couldnt see someone else's kids being put thru that.) 1st grade loved her <3, 2nd grade, you want to grab my kids arm that hard, i will grab yours right back and i was right there so it wasnt an over reaction, what gave her the right to touch my kid? and how are you going to tell a kid that cant use the bathroom at all, which would explain why when we get home he runs straight for the bathroom and is in there for the longest time. everyone pees and if you're going to tell a kid he cant go and he gets an infection because of that, mama mary is going to be all over you. thankfully im not the only one with issues with the school. at the last pta meeting about 50 or so parents voiced that the teachers were awful and we are planning on going to the district with our concerns and hopefully getting REAL teachers that are considerate and kind. these are elem. kids grades pre k thru 6th and 90% of them already hate school because of the people they have working for them.


 



"Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification"  Romans 14:19

VeronicaTex
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:23 AM
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Thank you first of all for writing a reply without foul language.

Please do not give me names.  That is breaking rules of confidentiality.  Even as a former teacher I did not indulge in that kind of conduct.  I could have lost my job over that.  Even more importantly, integrity, morality and common sense is what I let govern my conduct.

I am still not finding a point where I can or will relate to you on anything.

I will say this:  when you can approach a teacher:  especially one you do not agree with with manners and a calm disposition is when you will start a line of communication where positive progress can be made.

Sincerely,

Veronica

Quoting mary841108:

 their side, it was 3 teachers. i can give you their names, the school they work at and the city in which we live. along with a list of parents that also have major complaints against said teachers/school/district. i warn you, the list of parents might be crazy long lol. our school district was voted one of the worst in the state. Oh and i never disrespect the teachers in front of my kids. the whole do you like your arm thing was whispered to where only she  and i could hear it. Now, if these were your kids and all this happened to them would you not be upset and angry? and the only thing i am omitting would be how awesome the first grade teacher was and yes the pre k teacher was snooty but she did a good job with the kids and they all seemed to love her. but i cant say enough about the first grade teacher lol we just loved her!!! and yes i know they cant tell your kid they cant use the bathroom, doesnt mean they dont though. i had a teacher tell me i couldnt even though i was clearly 8 months pregnant (i just walked out and went and that was study hall lol we weren't doing anything of importance, passing notes and goofing off)

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Former teacher here:

I also highly suspect there is a great deal you are omitting from this story for attention-gaining reasons for yourself.

In all fairness to the teacher, as usual in this type of ranting, venting post, I would love to hear her side of it.  She is not here to defend herself.

I do not have much sympathy for a Mother who has to use foul language in an arrogant tone of voice to get her point across.

It is very telling about you.

Veronica


 


HaileysMom07180
by Bronze Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:26 AM

we are homeschooling now because of my dd's school

mary841108
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 9:39 AM

 tried that, it didnt work. when issues first came up, i went and talked to the teacher and principal without kids so we can focus on the issue without distractions. i was polite and calm, but then it kept happening and happening. then i got mean.

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Thank you first of all for writing a reply without foul language.

Please do not give me names.  That is breaking rules of confidentiality.  Even as a former teacher I did not indulge in that kind of conduct.  I could have lost my job over that.  Even more importantly, integrity, morality and common sense is what I let govern my conduct.

I am still not finding a point where I can or will relate to you on anything.

I will say this:  when you can approach a teacher:  especially one you do not agree with with manners and a calm disposition is when you will start a line of communication where positive progress can be made.

Sincerely,

Veronica

Quoting mary841108:

 their side, it was 3 teachers. i can give you their names, the school they work at and the city in which we live. along with a list of parents that also have major complaints against said teachers/school/district. i warn you, the list of parents might be crazy long lol. our school district was voted one of the worst in the state. Oh and i never disrespect the teachers in front of my kids. the whole do you like your arm thing was whispered to where only she  and i could hear it. Now, if these were your kids and all this happened to them would you not be upset and angry? and the only thing i am omitting would be how awesome the first grade teacher was and yes the pre k teacher was snooty but she did a good job with the kids and they all seemed to love her. but i cant say enough about the first grade teacher lol we just loved her!!! and yes i know they cant tell your kid they cant use the bathroom, doesnt mean they dont though. i had a teacher tell me i couldnt even though i was clearly 8 months pregnant (i just walked out and went and that was study hall lol we weren't doing anything of importance, passing notes and goofing off)

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Former teacher here:

I also highly suspect there is a great deal you are omitting from this story for attention-gaining reasons for yourself.

In all fairness to the teacher, as usual in this type of ranting, venting post, I would love to hear her side of it.  She is not here to defend herself.

I do not have much sympathy for a Mother who has to use foul language in an arrogant tone of voice to get her point across.

It is very telling about you.

Veronica


 


 

VeronicaTex
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM

I find it unfortunate you arrived to that point of being mean. 

I do not myself agree with that tactic in a parent.  When emotions take over, it can only get ugly.

There are acceptable ways of dealing with things when you are not getting the results you feel you should be getting.

I see you have a college degree.  Surely you can find ways online to assertively request of the superintendent to investigate these matters.

I am sure you are well aware that teachers have to be accountable for their actions.

They are evaluated and believe me,  under scrutiny,  under administration much more than the public can begin to imagine.

Veronica


Quoting mary841108:

 tried that, it didnt work. when issues first came up, i went and talked to the teacher and principal without kids so we can focus on the issue without distractions. i was polite and calm, but then it kept happening and happening. then i got mean.

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Thank you first of all for writing a reply without foul language.

Please do not give me names.  That is breaking rules of confidentiality.  Even as a former teacher I did not indulge in that kind of conduct.  I could have lost my job over that.  Even more importantly, integrity, morality and common sense is what I let govern my conduct.

I am still not finding a point where I can or will relate to you on anything.

I will say this:  when you can approach a teacher:  especially one you do not agree with with manners and a calm disposition is when you will start a line of communication where positive progress can be made.

Sincerely,

Veronica

Quoting mary841108:

 their side, it was 3 teachers. i can give you their names, the school they work at and the city in which we live. along with a list of parents that also have major complaints against said teachers/school/district. i warn you, the list of parents might be crazy long lol. our school district was voted one of the worst in the state. Oh and i never disrespect the teachers in front of my kids. the whole do you like your arm thing was whispered to where only she  and i could hear it. Now, if these were your kids and all this happened to them would you not be upset and angry? and the only thing i am omitting would be how awesome the first grade teacher was and yes the pre k teacher was snooty but she did a good job with the kids and they all seemed to love her. but i cant say enough about the first grade teacher lol we just loved her!!! and yes i know they cant tell your kid they cant use the bathroom, doesnt mean they dont though. i had a teacher tell me i couldnt even though i was clearly 8 months pregnant (i just walked out and went and that was study hall lol we weren't doing anything of importance, passing notes and goofing off)

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Former teacher here:

I also highly suspect there is a great deal you are omitting from this story for attention-gaining reasons for yourself.

In all fairness to the teacher, as usual in this type of ranting, venting post, I would love to hear her side of it.  She is not here to defend herself.

I do not have much sympathy for a Mother who has to use foul language in an arrogant tone of voice to get her point across.

It is very telling about you.

Veronica


 


 


mary841108
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 10:17 AM

 myself as well as other parents have brought it to the super. i have requested school transfers and everything and all of our requests are shoved aside. i do know the district is under fire right now due to test scores and one parent from the middle school has contacted the news channels to investigate, not sure what has come out of that yet since i dont know the parent personally. so its not just the elem. schools, its the middle and high schools as well. i've done the research and in western ny where we are, they did a forbes list of best/worst schools. there were 300 total schools included in this. our school district ranked #1 on the worst school list. our test scores are pitifully low, we have the highest drop out rate, parent/teacher communication is almost non-exsistant, and we have the highest violence rate (in the HS). its a sad situation. Now, i grew up in this area and blew thru school with ease. i graduated in the top ten of my class with honors, i never had issues with a teacher (except the substitute that wouldnt allow me to use the bathroom when i was pregnant, i was in my senior year, yeah it was stupid but abortion was not in my option list) i thought the schools were great and wanted my kids to go there but unfortunately something has happened between when i graduated and my kids started school. the teachers either dont care anymore or they hired awful people. i dont know. but there is an on-going fight between the district super and the parents of the kids that attend the schools. thankfully we are looking at houses waaayyyy out of the district. and the schools that are in that area are supposed to be fantastic, i've heard nothing but good about them and have done research on test scores, reading/math levels and so on and i am impressed. and i am a hard one to impress lol

Quoting VeronicaTex:

I find it unfortunate you arrived to that point of being mean. 

I do not myself agree with that tactic in a parent.  When emotions take over, it can only get ugly.

There are acceptable ways of dealing with things when you are not getting the results you feel you should be getting.

I see you have a college degree.  Surely you can find ways online to assertively request of the superintendent to investigate these matters.

I am sure you are well aware that teachers have to be accountable for their actions.

They are evaluated and believe me,  under scrutiny,  under administration much more than the public can begin to imagine.

Veronica


Quoting mary841108:

 tried that, it didnt work. when issues first came up, i went and talked to the teacher and principal without kids so we can focus on the issue without distractions. i was polite and calm, but then it kept happening and happening. then i got mean.

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Thank you first of all for writing a reply without foul language.

Please do not give me names.  That is breaking rules of confidentiality.  Even as a former teacher I did not indulge in that kind of conduct.  I could have lost my job over that.  Even more importantly, integrity, morality and common sense is what I let govern my conduct.

I am still not finding a point where I can or will relate to you on anything.

I will say this:  when you can approach a teacher:  especially one you do not agree with with manners and a calm disposition is when you will start a line of communication where positive progress can be made.

Sincerely,

Veronica

Quoting mary841108:

 their side, it was 3 teachers. i can give you their names, the school they work at and the city in which we live. along with a list of parents that also have major complaints against said teachers/school/district. i warn you, the list of parents might be crazy long lol. our school district was voted one of the worst in the state. Oh and i never disrespect the teachers in front of my kids. the whole do you like your arm thing was whispered to where only she  and i could hear it. Now, if these were your kids and all this happened to them would you not be upset and angry? and the only thing i am omitting would be how awesome the first grade teacher was and yes the pre k teacher was snooty but she did a good job with the kids and they all seemed to love her. but i cant say enough about the first grade teacher lol we just loved her!!! and yes i know they cant tell your kid they cant use the bathroom, doesnt mean they dont though. i had a teacher tell me i couldnt even though i was clearly 8 months pregnant (i just walked out and went and that was study hall lol we weren't doing anything of importance, passing notes and goofing off)

Quoting VeronicaTex:

Former teacher here:

I also highly suspect there is a great deal you are omitting from this story for attention-gaining reasons for yourself.

In all fairness to the teacher, as usual in this type of ranting, venting post, I would love to hear her side of it.  She is not here to defend herself.

I do not have much sympathy for a Mother who has to use foul language in an arrogant tone of voice to get her point across.

It is very telling about you.

Veronica


 


 


 

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