Hundreds of homosexual activists rushed out of bars and swarmed a group of Christians who were singing songs in San Francisco's Castro District – and some even threatened to kill the worshippers.
A group of Christians had been singing and praying in the "gay" district for several days, but they never expected an angry mob would run them out. However, that's what happened Friday night.
One woman who was attacked told her story with Pastor Lou Engle at the International House of Prayer in Kansas City. She said the group's fellowship had been peaceful for several nights before the riot.
"People would come stand with us and join us," she said. "We got to pray for some people. "
But then angry men began yelling profanities and warning the Christians to leave the district.
One asked, "Why are you here?"
The leader of the group said, "We're here to worship God, and we're here because we love you. "
A group of men approached the Christians and covered them with a large cloth, backing them into a corner. Then the angry mob began swearing and growing larger. The bars began emptying out, and a crowd completely surrounded the Christians.
The worship group began singing "Amazing Grace," while an estimated 500 "gay" advocates sang, "We Shall Overcome. "
The woman said she and her friend were doused with hot coffee. One man took a Bible from her friend, hit her on the head with it, pushed her to the ground and began kicking her. People began lunging at the Christian group, blowing whistles in their ears.
"They started saying, 'We're going to kill you,'" she said. "They started taking our pictures and saying, 'We're going to kill you. We know who you are. " Then she said a man jumped through the crowd and pushed her forehead.
Just then, a squad of police officers arrived in riot gear, surrounding the Christians and forming a protective human wall.
She said the police told them, "You have to leave if you want to make it out. "
When the group continued praying, an officer came back and said, "You don't have a choice anymore. We're going to escort you out. "
The officers then took the Christians to their cars. The angry mob began lunging at them through the riot gear and chanting "Shame on you!"
Some yelled, "We are going to follow you all the way home!" Others called the Christians "hypocrites. "
One man screamed into a camera, "We don't ever want them coming back. Do you understand that, other Christians? Do you understand that, other Mormons? I'm talking to you, people. Yeah, you. Stay out of our neighborhood if you don't like us. Leave us alone!"
The woman said her group had merely organized a peaceful fellowship and wasn't there to condemn homosexuals.
"We hadn't preached," she said. "We hadn't evangelized. We worshipped God in peace, and we were about to die for it. "
"Their rights were respected," Joe Schmitz, an opponent of Prop. 8, told San Francisco's KTVU Channel 2. "They got a chance to go ahead and pray on the sidewalk, and I had the opportunity to express my freedom of speech, which is telling them to get out of my neighborhood. "
The following day, approximately 20,000 people marched in San Francisco to protest passage of California's Proposition 8 protecting traditional marriage. Several thousand people conducted other protests around the nation in cities such as Manhattan, Chicago and Los Angeles. According to reports, many protesters feeling emboldened by the recent election chanted, "Yes we can!" – a slogan popularized by the Barack Obama campaign.
Thats horrible....and they werent pleading their case for everyone to accept them by acting that way. That was totally improper.
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well, threatenig them was certainly NOT very nice. ugliness is wrong wherever it comes from.
however, what with the passage of prop 8 (which i believe to be unconstitutional) why would Christians go and pray for them in the Castro? i live 40 minutes from SF, believe me when i say, the Castro is almost purely gay.
"praying for them" would be taken as an insult, like they are "wrong" and it would be taken like "ha ha ha ha ha, prop 8 passed, losers" and throwing an "L" at them. its a big city. ppl from big cities are skeptics.
i think the Christians should most certainly "prayed" for the homosexuals in their church or at home, if they were really "praying" and not phariseeing.
IMO, if gays were to ban heterosexual marriage the straight 'christians' would do the exact same or even worse. Some marriages are a sacrament and no christian should ever be involved in taking a sacrament away from anyone.
I say leave people alone to live how they want to live. Would you want gay activists coming to stand in front of your church and discussing their way of life like the praying and singing that the "Christians" were doing in the gay neighborhood in San Francisco? They weren't there because they love anyone. They were there because they are judging someone elses lifestyle and trying to force their beliefs on the public. I don't condone, in any way, violence vdone to any group, gay or straight, religious or atheist, but mind your own business. It's like that group that goes to the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq. Stay home and mind your own business not the business of people you don't even know.
maybe Im wrong but I think they were just singing praise music?
Quoting faerie75:
well, threatenig them was certainly NOT very nice. ugliness is wrong wherever it comes from.
however, what with the passage of prop 8 (which i believe to be unconstitutional) why would Christians go and pray for them in the Castro? i live 40 minutes from SF, believe me when i say, the Castro is almost purely gay.
"praying for them" would be taken as an insult, like they are "wrong" and it would be taken like "ha ha ha ha ha, prop 8 passed, losers" and throwing an "L" at them. its a big city. ppl from big cities are skeptics.
i think the Christians should most certainly "prayed" for the homosexuals in their church or at home, if they were really "praying" and not phariseeing.
yes, that is a common perception of christians, but since I am not them and I was not there, it would also be judgemental to assume I knew thier "true" intentions, KWIM?
Quoting mom_to_emma:
I say leave people alone to live how they want to live. Would you want gay activists coming to stand in front of your church and discussing their way of life like the praying and singing that the "Christians" were doing in the gay neighborhood in San Francisco? They weren't there because they love anyone. They were there because they are judging someone elses lifestyle and trying to force their beliefs on the public. I don't condone, in any way, violence vdone to any group, gay or straight, religious or atheist, but mind your own business. It's like that group that goes to the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq. Stay home and mind your own business not the business of people you don't even know.
i didnt say they had no right to do that, but its a tense political time right now. i dont condone what happened at all. however, i do see the gays reason for being angry.
Quoting metalmomma25:
maybe Im wrong but I think they were just singing praise music?
Quoting faerie75:
well, threatenig them was certainly NOT very nice. ugliness is wrong wherever it comes from.
however, what with the passage of prop 8 (which i believe to be unconstitutional) why would Christians go and pray for them in the Castro? i live 40 minutes from SF, believe me when i say, the Castro is almost purely gay.
"praying for them" would be taken as an insult, like they are "wrong" and it would be taken like "ha ha ha ha ha, prop 8 passed, losers" and throwing an "L" at them. its a big city. ppl from big cities are skeptics.
i think the Christians should most certainly "prayed" for the homosexuals in their church or at home, if they were really "praying" and not phariseeing.
there are rainbow flags on every light post. and most apartment windows.
with the tension going on rt now, that would be like ... i dunno.... the KKK marching thru east Oakland in full regalia?
Quoting metalmomma25:
yes, that is a common perception of christians, but since I am not them and I was not there, it would also be judgemental to assume I knew thier "true" intentions, KWIM?
Quoting mom_to_emma:
I say leave people alone to live how they want to live. Would you want gay activists coming to stand in front of your church and discussing their way of life like the praying and singing that the "Christians" were doing in the gay neighborhood in San Francisco? They weren't there because they love anyone. They were there because they are judging someone elses lifestyle and trying to force their beliefs on the public. I don't condone, in any way, violence vdone to any group, gay or straight, religious or atheist, but mind your own business. It's like that group that goes to the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq. Stay home and mind your own business not the business of people you don't even know.
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