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42% of women claim they would lie about contraception in order to get pregnant
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on Nov. 1, 2009 at 11:52 PM
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Do Women Really Want a Male
Birth Control Pill?
[W]hile women legitimately complain that biology has condemned them to bear the burden of contraception, this burden also gives women control over one of the most important parts of any human being’s life--reproduction. The male birth control pill will shift much of that control from women to men. Is the following conversation far away?
Woman #1: “My [husband, boyfriend, significant other] is selfish. He's on the pill and won’t get off. I’ve asked him to stop taking it but he always says he’s not ready. He just won’t grow up. I don’t know what to do.”
Woman #2: “That’s what the pill has given men—a right to be perpetual adolescents. It’s given them veto power over women who want to have children.”
Despite the stigma that will develop against men who take the pill, the pill will be a success. While most women are responsible and want to have children with a willing, committed partner, studies show that lack of reproductive control can be a major problem for men today. For example, the National Scruples and Lies Survey 2004 polled 5,000 women in the United Kingdom for That’s Life! magazine. According to that survey, 42% of women claim they would lie about contraception in order to get pregnant, regardless of the wishes of their partners.
Jo Checkley, the editor of That’s Life!, is correct when she says “to deliberately get pregnant when your partner doesn’t want a baby is playing Russian roulette with other people’s lives."
According to research conducted by Joyce Abma of the National Center for Health Statistics and Linda Piccinino of Cornell University, over a million American births each year result from pregnancies which men did not intend.
The male pill will fill a genuine economic need. Child support levels are rising, generally comprising 15-25% of take-home pay for one child, in addition to add-ons for child care, health care, and other costs. There is also a trend towards extending child support obligations beyond the age of 18, and child support enforcement is increasingly wide-ranging and effective.
Moreover, most men realize that it’s difficult to remain a part of their children’s lives once the relationship with the children’s mother has broken down, particularly if the children were born outside of marriage. The pill will help ensure that men only have children in the context that’s best for men--a stable marriage.
The advent of the female birth control pill greatly aided women’s struggle for autonomy and fulfillment. The male birth control pill will also create great changes, but these changes will not be to some women’s liking. Be careful what you ask for—you might get it.
http://www.glennsacks.com/do_women_really.htm
42% of women claim they would lie about contraception in order to get pregnant, regardless of the wishes of their partners.
How do you feel about this, and do you know anyone who has done his?
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 1:11 AM
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i just want to say something about this male contraceptive pill...
what in the world would possess any women to trust a man saying he's on the pill.
its still our bodies and trustign a guy to say "dont worry. you wont get pregnant. i am on the pill" is damn foolish. just as its damn foolish for a man who doesnt want to have children at the time to simply just trust in the woman to do all the "birth controlling".
the only evidence i would take is him being snipped. and i'd want to see papers!
"It's not the gardener's job to pick up the dog shit. If you don't want to pick up the dog shit, then learn a skill like gardening." Justins dad
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 1:13 AM
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yep. Just post a poll... no one can see which way u vote.
Quoting futureshock:
Quoting Hayliesmom:
i say post a poll asking the same question. I don't believe 42% of women would do this.
Can you do an anonymous poll here? That is the only way any one would tell the truth.
There are an awful lot of unplanned pregnancies carried to term that have been happening to unmarried women in the last few years. The rate has skyrocketed in the past decade.
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 1:15 AM
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True, however its not very often you hear a woman screaming "he lied to me, and I got pregnant", not to mention when it comes right down to it, the chick is free to go get an abortion. A man can't do that.
Quoting samthecat001:
i just want to say something about this male contraceptive pill...
what in the world would possess any women to trust a man saying he's on the pill.
its still our bodies and trustign a guy to say "dont worry. you wont get pregnant. i am on the pill" is damn foolish. just as its damn foolish for a man who doesnt want to have children at the time to simply just trust in the woman to do all the "birth controlling".
the only evidence i would take is him being snipped. and i'd want to see papers!
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 1:19 AM
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true she is legally able to... however for some women that just isnt an option for them.. for whatever reason. AND the fact remains...its styill he body she is putting on the line once a pregnancy happens. not his. he can walk away...they do it every day on this country. just walk away from kids they just simply dont want. ask all the kid of absent dads, and all the single moms struggling to take care of a kid when the dad just refuses to be responsible for the child he co-created.
and the point is ONCE AGAIN...people need to take care of THEMSELVES. if you are having sex then you need to be responsible. if you dont want kids then YOU handle your birth control and TWO smart people who dont want kids will be using TWO forms of birth control... him condoms and her either condoms & or the pill/iud/other method. but if ONE is not then they cannot cry foul. we are all 100% sexually responsible for ourselves. no one else.Quoting hautemama83:
True, however its not very often you hear a woman screaming "he lied to me, and I got pregnant", not to mention when it comes right down to it, the chick is free to go get an abortion. A man can't do that.
Quoting samthecat001:
i just want to say something about this male contraceptive pill...
what in the world would possess any women to trust a man saying he's on the pill.
its still our bodies and trustign a guy to say "dont worry. you wont get pregnant. i am on the pill" is damn foolish. just as its damn foolish for a man who doesnt want to have children at the time to simply just trust in the woman to do all the "birth controlling".
the only evidence i would take is him being snipped. and i'd want to see papers!
"It's not the gardener's job to pick up the dog shit. If you don't want to pick up the dog shit, then learn a skill like gardening." Justins dad
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM
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Quoting samthecat001:
if a man doesnt want to risk getting a woman pregnant then he will use a condom REGARDLESS of what she SAYS she is or isnt doing to prevent pregnancy.
HE is EQUALLY as responsible for his OWN contraception. He cannto blame HER for getting her pregnant... just as SHE cannot blame HIM for gettign her pregnant.Perfectly said! I'm tired of the resposibility of birth control being placed on the woman.
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 10:41 AM
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Serioulsy?Come on girls...that is just pathetic and un womanly like.Stupid!
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM
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I can honestly say I am not apart of the 42%! If I wanted a baby bad enough and my partner didn't I would go to a sperm bank.
"Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings, who don't have all the answers, to think they do."
~ The Dems and the Reps remind me of my kids ~
One is always pointing out the bad things that the other is doing in hopes that I don't notice all the bullshit he is trying to get away with...
I'm not fooled by my own kids and I'm not fooled by Politicians.
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 10:45 AM
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Quoting Alison_C:
Quoting samthecat001:
if a man doesnt want to risk getting a woman pregnant then he will use a condom REGARDLESS of what she SAYS she is or isnt doing to prevent pregnancy.
HE is EQUALLY as responsible for his OWN contraception. He cannto blame HER for getting her pregnant... just as SHE cannot blame HIM for gettign her pregnant.Perfectly said! I'm tired of the resposibility of birth control being placed on the woman.
I agree! The whole "she told me she was on bc" argument is old. Come on, if you didn't want a child then cover it! My SO has said that before about his ex when ss was conceived. I have no sympathy for him at all.
"Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings, who don't have all the answers, to think they do."
~ The Dems and the Reps remind me of my kids ~
One is always pointing out the bad things that the other is doing in hopes that I don't notice all the bullshit he is trying to get away with...
I'm not fooled by my own kids and I'm not fooled by Politicians.
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- by on Nov. 2, 2009 at 10:46 AM
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Wow. Im not in the %42.
If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.
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