I am always curious how pro-life people stand on the practice of selective reduction. By selective reduction I mean specifically the medical procedure of reducing multi fetal pregnancies which are the result of in vitro fertilization.
The reason I wonder is when we talk about a right to life, the right of a fetus etc does it not follow that any embryo implanted has a right to grow unhindered. That it's life not placed into risk by the mother carrying multiple fetuses which in itself creates a greater likelihood that one or more of those potential 'human beings' might die purely because of mans intervention in implanting so many embryos.
Where do pro-lifers stand on this? I am just curious not out to try to convince people to become pre-choice in any way shape or form.
Also where do pro-lifers stand when you talk about fertilized eggs that are not implanted. Should they all be implanted if they are harvested since they have the potential for life?
If you could design a law around your pro-life beliefs how would you include these two situations in your law? Again just wondering.
Or maybe prolifers don't feel this is an abortion at all?
*edited to use the correct term as someone pointed out.. thanks!
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Quoting lyranightshade:Good questions! I'd love to hear the answers.
im pro choice and am personally against selective reduction. when you CHOOSE to implant multiple embryos in you, you do that KNOWING that chance of multiple babies. so when you get multiple babies, accept them bc you had them put there!! of course ppl do have the right to CHOOSE, but it seems like people always fail to see that there was also a chance to CHOOSE in the beginning.
Good question. I'm pro choice, so it's up to the mom. But personally, I can't see the logic in saying "oh, you CAN'T selectively reduce". I mean, isn't saving one or two lives better than losing all ten?
well usually selective reduction is done to increase the likelyhood that the remaining embryos will survive to full term not so much to reduce multiples for the sake of the parents, although I am sure that happens as well.
Quoting ready_for2:im pro choice and am personally against selective reduction. when you CHOOSE to implant multiple embryos in you, you do that KNOWING that chance of multiple babies. so when you get multiple babies, accept them bc you had them put there!! of course ppl do have the right to CHOOSE, but it seems like people always fail to see that there was also a chance to CHOOSE in the beginning.
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I think that the maximum of two embryos should be implanted, not any more , while I understand that more gives more of a chance of being pregnant, I see so many cases of sextuplites because of these multiple implantations, I dont think they should do anymore than two sine it could harm the mother and the other children if more embryos were implanted and they all took. Thats just my opinion, but thats all not up to me, the rights and wrongs are up to god.
Quoting ready_for2:im pro choice and am personally against selective reduction. when you CHOOSE to implant multiple embryos in you, you do that KNOWING that chance of multiple babies. so when you get multiple babies, accept them bc you had them put there!! of course ppl do have the right to CHOOSE, but it seems like people always fail to see that there was also a chance to CHOOSE in the beginning.
But you DON'T get "multiple embryos implanted". You get multiple embryos TRANSFERRED. Usually, the reason for that is that they're such poor quality embryos that most are expected to die. But the science isn't perfect and sometimes they can surprise you. What happens when six were transferred with the expectation of MAYBE having two live, but they ALL take? Do you know how risky a sextuplet pg is? Chances are good that they'll ALL die. Whereas if you reduce to two babies, you can easily carry to term and have beautiful, healthy twins.
Isn't two living babies better than six dead ones?
ty for pointing that part out.. my understanding of it is pretty limited in some regards.. but what you said was sort of my thinking... when is it okay to sacrifice one or two for the chance you might have one or two survive. I am not honestly sure where I even stand on it.
Quoting ShadowLark:
Quoting ready_for2:im pro choice and am personally against selective reduction. when you CHOOSE to implant multiple embryos in you, you do that KNOWING that chance of multiple babies. so when you get multiple babies, accept them bc you had them put there!! of course ppl do have the right to CHOOSE, but it seems like people always fail to see that there was also a chance to CHOOSE in the beginning.
But you DON'T get "multiple embryos implanted". You get multiple embryos TRANSFERRED. Usually, the reason for that is that they're such poor quality embryos that most are expected to die. But the science isn't perfect and sometimes they can surprise you. What happens when six were transferred with the expectation of MAYBE having two live, but they ALL take? Do you know how risky a sextuplet pg is? Chances are good that they'll ALL die. Whereas if you reduce to two babies, you can easily carry to term and have beautiful, healthy twins.
Isn't two living babies better than six dead ones?
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thats not what i meant. i meant for whatever reason (i was thinking the first one, but it could also apply to the second)....anyway, the point is, if you think you wouldnt want to carry more than three for example (for whatever reason) then dont implant more than 3.
Quoting acaisha:well usually selective reduction is done to increase the likelyhood that the remaining embryos will survive to full term not so much to reduce multiples for the sake of the parents, although I am sure that happens as well.
Quoting ready_for2:im pro choice and am personally against selective reduction. when you CHOOSE to implant multiple embryos in you, you do that KNOWING that chance of multiple babies. so when you get multiple babies, accept them bc you had them put there!! of course ppl do have the right to CHOOSE, but it seems like people always fail to see that there was also a chance to CHOOSE in the beginning.
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