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Male Rape Of Young Boys Caused By Religion

Posted by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:39 PM
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Afghanistan's 'Widespread, Culturally Sanctioned Form Of Male Rape'


Afghanistan's dirty little secret

Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.


For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.


"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."


Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.


President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.


As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."


He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.


In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."


So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?


Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.


"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."


Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"


That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.
Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.
But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.


"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."
As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL#ixzz0yEIv1olC

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KimBerlYMomto4
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:40 PM

WTF? Omg these people are sick!

Radarma
by Platinum Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Hmmmm.

nemiller
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:42 PM

i thought it was relatively common knowledge how rampant homosexual behavior like this is.  it's disgusting and should absolutely be a priority, but i didn't know that people weren't aware.

norasmama
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:44 PM

where did this article come from?

futureshock
by Emerald Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:46 PM

It is horrifying.

MomX04
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:47 PM

I knew about this ages ago so I'm not shocked to see the article.

futureshock
by Emerald Member on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:48 PM

What I find particularly horrifying is the reason this is happening.  It is because of a religious taboo which makes women seem gross.

Tinker_Jo
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:51 PM

"bacha baz" = translated means "creepy uncle"

It's so weird what other cultures have as their "norm".  If someone took my son as their lover, I'd beat the crap out of them!

robertmommie
by on Aug. 31, 2010 at 7:51 PM

I'm not surprised, it happens all over.  On top of that point, TCNs or Third Country Nationals always told us that "Men are for pleasure, women are for babies", so this doesn't surprise me it's ok to do that to a boy with their customs.  That saying was repeated to us by the TCNs that were driving trucks in convoys for the US Army.  We had them in controlled areas waiting for their convoy's and they would pleasure each other since they had to go so long without women.  They also propositioned Sargents for female soldiers, asking if they could have them for a few hours.  They seemed to think the female soldiers were there for the male soldier's entertainment.  We were always treated like sex objects with the TCNs, even by the Iraqi Army, especially by them.  I was groped more then once by an Iraqi Sargent, he got two warnings from me, he didn't do it again.  They all went nuts over my blue eyes and nice teeth in their opinions. 

My DH was also molested and repeatedly raped by a man when he was too little to fight hard enough.  The man approached him again when my dh was 17, and my dh beat him so bad that he is permanently disfigured.  He also reported him because he found out this man had found new boys to do it to.



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