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THIS is NOT an answer for abortion.

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What a mess. This is scary . I HATE abortion But I LOVE women and they should all have ACCESS to birth control. How did things go so wrong?

The article is extremely long so I am including the link and some pieces of the article. i just think that being pro-life shouldn't mean people cut all funding and availability of BIRT CONTROL , it's wrong and could cause more expensive problems later. Yes I want women to not abort their children but isn't it best, all the way around, if they can get birth control and not get pregnant when they aren't willing to or able to support children? 



http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/05/us-states-slash-birth-control-idUSTRE8240ZM20120305

Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:41am EST

(Reuters) - Even as a national debate rages over contraception insurance, tens of thousands of low-income women and teenagers across the United States have lost access to subsidized birth control as states slash and restructure family planning funds.


the Texas funding cut prompted Planned Parenthood to shut down 11 clinics. It also has jeopardized a $40 million family-planning program run as a Medicaid extension.

The program provides free birth control and annual exams to 130,000 low-income women of reproductive age who don't qualify for regular Medicaid. The federal government pays 90 percent of the cost; Texas puts up just $4 million a year.

About 40 percent of women in the Texas program get subsidized care from Planned Parenthood clinics, but a new state law blocks those clinics from participating. The Obama administration has said that violates federal Medicaid rules. If neither side compromises, the program will likely close by the end of March.

That infuriates Jonee Longoria, a single mother in Houston who relied on the program for free services for several years as she put herself through college. "I had one child living in poverty and I didn't want another," Longoria said.

She now works for a social service agency and refers many clients to the program for contraception. Without it, she said, "where would they go?"

Advocates of defunding Planned Parenthood say they regret any service disruptions for poor women. But they call it a necessary price to pay to take a moral stance on abortion.

"We're just doing what we think is best," said Joe Pojman, executive director of Texas Alliance for Life, 

by on Mar. 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM
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kfroz0415
by Silver Member on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:14 PM
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I am pro life, but not anti birth control. 

I don't agree with certain forms of birth control that allow you to ovulate and the egg to become fertilized, but then "spontaneously aborts" the fertilized egg. There are barrier methods that prevent fertilization all together as well as methods that prevent ovulation which in turn also prevents fertilization. Doesn't necessarily mean I think they should be illegal I just don't agree with the way they work. I will always say prevention in any form should be preferred to an abortion after the fact...  

Lishes
by on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:14 PM
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 My tubes are tied and I take BC for medical reasons.  I get it from a PP here that treats heavy painful periods.  They are hurting many women in more ways than the obvious.

Quoting alwayskk:

What if someone is abstinent, but still wants to take birth control as a measure of safety?

 


coolmommy2x
by Ruby Member on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:14 PM
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You are aware that women can be raped right? Not every woman who gets pregnant is a slut who can't keep her legs closed. Even Rush Limbaugh is back pedalling on that one.

Quoting kansasmom1978:

The answer to abortion is to teach women to respect their bodies. Not sleep with someone if they are not ready to be a parent.  

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Lillymygirl
by on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM

What if they need a pap smear?

This is crazy and over the top. Like I have said i am pro life and hate abortion but this is so misguided.

Quoting alwayskk:

What if someone is abstinent, but still wants to take birth control as a measure of safety?


notjstanothrmom
by Ruby Member on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I know that it prevents ovulation, but it still does happen. In that case, the pills also thin the lining of your uterus making implantation harder. I am educated about how it works which is why I choose not to use it.

I never said other people shouldn't use it because I think we'd be in SERIOUS trouble and a lot of lives would be messed up, including lives of upper class rich people. We as a society NEED birth control... just I personally will not use it.

It's not only because of that, but I don't want to put hormones in my body that my body doesn't need when NFP works great for us.

Quoting prenatalRN:

Yikes! You do not understand how hormonal birth control works at all. Taking the pill prevents ovulation *egg begin released* so sperm and egg can never meet, no embryo is made. Now if the pill fails and an egg does release it will not stop a healthy embryo from implanting in the uterus.

What you are confusing this with is an IUD. This is a small device placed inside the uterus, it is not the pill, the patch, or other hormonal types of birth control. It works in many ways (which are not fully understood) but it makes it so a fertilized egg has a harder time implanting and also a harder time for an egg to be released.

So what you are against then is IUDs, not oral pills. Please educate yourself before you take a stand on an issue.

Quoting notjstanothrmom:

I am pro-life and will not use birth control for contraceptive because personally it is basically like an abortion *to me* if my baby cannot implant. I do believe everyone should have access to birth control and everyone will, but I don't feel it's the governments place to provide these services because birth control is very affordable anyways.

Quoting randi1978:

How are they "doing what's right" by making it harder for women to access contraceptives?

Oh, wait.....even birth control is abortion to some of them backwoods yahoo's.....Single women are supposed to be nuns until Prince fucking Charming comes along with a marriage proposal.




dlane12152007
by on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:17 PM

I am definitely pro birth control but at the same time I feel like they are only focusing on one aspect of birth control. Men have to pay for their birth control but nobody is pushing for that? Birth control is only effective when taken properly and lots of people don't. I think if they want birth control for women to be covered then it should be the same for men (condoms, spermicide) After all it takes 2 to prevent an unwanted pregnancy just as it does to create a pregnancy.

Lillymygirl
by on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:17 PM

You could potentially lose your planned parenthood or at the least have to pay much more out of pocket. I hope you can come up with the money or some other way. 

Quoting Lishes:

 My tubes are tied and I take BC for medical reasons.  I get it from a PP here that treats heavy painful periods.  They are hurting many women in more ways than the obvious.

Quoting alwayskk:

What if someone is abstinent, but still wants to take birth control as a measure of safety?

 


StevensCare4u
by on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM
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 I didnt read the article, but my view on this topic is simple. Young women should have BC availible to them for free. I mean under 21 years of age. By 21 a women should be self sufficiant enough to be able to supply her own BC. BC is much cheaper then having a child. So for someone to say "I cant afford it" is crazy. HAving sex is a choice, not something that you have to do. If you CHOOSE to have sex then you should CHOOSE to purchase it yourself as an adult.

Lishes
by on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM

 My only other option for treatment is a hysterectomy,  I cannot afford that either. It is also not something I want to do at all.  My husband just got a new job that has great insurance, so hopefully I won't need PP anymore.  But other women do, so this still bugs me.

Quoting Lillymygirl:

You could potentially lose your planned parenthood or at the least have to pay much more out of pocket. I hope you can come up with the money or some other way. 

Quoting Lishes:

 My tubes are tied and I take BC for medical reasons.  I get it from a PP here that treats heavy painful periods.  They are hurting many women in more ways than the obvious.

Quoting alwayskk:

What if someone is abstinent, but still wants to take birth control as a measure of safety?

 


 


notjstanothrmom
by Ruby Member on Mar. 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM

I also want to add that I wouldn't vote for the cutting of birth control, but if it came down to it, I don't think it's the end of the world and I do think that people would find a way to pay the $10-15 or maybe even full price of $30ish to get birth control.

Quoting alwayskk:

Eeeek. I'm in TX and have gotten my birth control from PP before.

It's $10-$15 a month for those whom they have deemed can afford it. I've gotten birth control from them before when I couldn't afford it, under the Women's Health Program which was cut. That was actually cut a year or two ago. Now they are making additional cuts to medicaid. 

Quoting notjstanothrmom:

I'm honestly not too educated on how Planned Parenthood gets their funding, but I do know they accept state insurance. I think state health is an amazing thing, but I don't think that it needs to pay for birth control.

I know that NFP isn't for everyone, but birth control isn't a crazy cost either. I *think* Planned Parenthood offers it at a discount cost to people without insurance so $10-15 a month I don't think is an undo able cost for anyone.

Quoting HistoryNutty:

I thought Planned Parenthood was a private organization?

Also, natural family planning isn't for everyone. I can't do it because my periods are so irregular. Also, without being on the pill I wouldn't be able to do anything during my period past curling up in my bed in the dark with a therma care pack.

Even though I'm on tricare, I used to go to planned parenthood for my pap smears and for my birth control. My husband and I were already married, but didn't want kids.


Quoting notjstanothrmom:

I think people should have access to health care but I don't nessesarily think that birth control or abortion should be funded by state/government run programs. It costs under $30 a month to pay for birth control, if you don't want to get pregnant then that $30 a month is well worth the cost.

I also use NFP to prevent pregnancy. It's free.




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