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THIS is NOT an answer for abortion.

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What a mess. This is scary . I HATE abortion But I LOVE women and they should all have ACCESS to birth control. How did things go so wrong?

The article is extremely long so I am including the link and some pieces of the article. i just think that being pro-life shouldn't mean people cut all funding and availability of BIRT CONTROL , it's wrong and could cause more expensive problems later. Yes I want women to not abort their children but isn't it best, all the way around, if they can get birth control and not get pregnant when they aren't willing to or able to support children? 



http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/05/us-states-slash-birth-control-idUSTRE8240ZM20120305

Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:41am EST

(Reuters) - Even as a national debate rages over contraception insurance, tens of thousands of low-income women and teenagers across the United States have lost access to subsidized birth control as states slash and restructure family planning funds.


the Texas funding cut prompted Planned Parenthood to shut down 11 clinics. It also has jeopardized a $40 million family-planning program run as a Medicaid extension.

The program provides free birth control and annual exams to 130,000 low-income women of reproductive age who don't qualify for regular Medicaid. The federal government pays 90 percent of the cost; Texas puts up just $4 million a year.

About 40 percent of women in the Texas program get subsidized care from Planned Parenthood clinics, but a new state law blocks those clinics from participating. The Obama administration has said that violates federal Medicaid rules. If neither side compromises, the program will likely close by the end of March.

That infuriates Jonee Longoria, a single mother in Houston who relied on the program for free services for several years as she put herself through college. "I had one child living in poverty and I didn't want another," Longoria said.

She now works for a social service agency and refers many clients to the program for contraception. Without it, she said, "where would they go?"

Advocates of defunding Planned Parenthood say they regret any service disruptions for poor women. But they call it a necessary price to pay to take a moral stance on abortion.

"We're just doing what we think is best," said Joe Pojman, executive director of Texas Alliance for Life, 

by on Mar. 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM
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neverbeamom
by on Mar. 9, 2012 at 10:01 AM
It's cold but it only lasts a few months. We actually had a mild winter this year. First snow storm was last weekend- knocked out power in over 25000 homes. We weren't one of them. ;) There are LOTS of small towns that have good schools and low crime rates. Think- 50-60 students per GRADE. I graduated with 39 people. I live right in Traverse City now and love it. Close to everything but still small enough the crime rate is practically nil compared to big cities. Grand Rapids isn't bad but lots of college students and still three times as much crime. Not talking up Traverse or anything. ;)


Quoting MeTaL_MoMmA_08:

I'm getting sick of Flint again, remembering why we left in the first place (DH and I lived in New Orleans for 2 years, came back in 2009). I wouldn't mind Traverse City, but I HAAAAAATE snow & cold, and i know it's colder up there than it is here (I want to go back South)! LoL

We're actually debating a move to Grand Rapids, as DH has family there and his uncle is looking to hire a few more people (DH is in construction, and I don't think I have to tell you that work is SLOW in this state for him)... I just wanna be somewhere warm, with good schools (our DD is autistic) and less crime... 

Quoting neverbeamom:

I love Flint. ...*shitty grin* Lol. I am not a city girl. I love it up here. You should consider moving here someday. Seriously. The thing I hate most is snow but I can deal with it. Fresh air, green trees and grass, friendly people, and safe neighborhoods mean more!





Quoting MeTaL_MoMmA_08:

lucky you, i hear it's nice up there. i'm down in shitty ol' Flint...

Quoting neverbeamom:

Northern- Traverse City area.








Quoting MeTaL_MoMmA_08:

yeah me too.... where in MI are you?

Quoting neverbeamom:

I'm so screwed if this happens in Michigan.  :(










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MeTaL_MoMmA_08
by on Mar. 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Be real lol, "a few months" of winter is 6-8 months in MI; this year was just exceptionally weird (we had a mild winter down here too). I liked being in a place where "winter" is 6 weeks long and just means you have to throw on a hoodie over your jeans & t-shirt (that's one of the things about Louisiana that kicks ass). :D

and GR has 3 schools specifically for ASD kids... I'm crossing my fingers on that lol; if we have to stay in MI then I'd rather be there (the public school system here in Genesee County has a GREAT preschool program for special-needs kids, but DD is very high-functioning and will have to go to public school when kindergarten rolls around, and that terrifies me). and while I don't like city life, a graduating class of 39 is TOO "small town" for me lol.

Quoting neverbeamom:

It's cold but it only lasts a few months. We actually had a mild winter this year. First snow storm was last weekend- knocked out power in over 25000 homes. We weren't one of them. ;) There are LOTS of small towns that have good schools and low crime rates. Think- 50-60 students per GRADE. I graduated with 39 people. I live right in Traverse City now and love it. Close to everything but still small enough the crime rate is practically nil compared to big cities. Grand Rapids isn't bad but lots of college students and still three times as much crime. Not talking up Traverse or anything. ;)


Quoting MeTaL_MoMmA_08:

I'm getting sick of Flint again, remembering why we left in the first place (DH and I lived in New Orleans for 2 years, came back in 2009). I wouldn't mind Traverse City, but I HAAAAAATE snow & cold, and i know it's colder up there than it is here (I want to go back South)! LoL

We're actually debating a move to Grand Rapids, as DH has family there and his uncle is looking to hire a few more people (DH is in construction, and I don't think I have to tell you that work is SLOW in this state for him)... I just wanna be somewhere warm, with good schools (our DD is autistic) and less crime... 

Quoting neverbeamom:

I love Flint. ...*shitty grin* Lol. I am not a city girl. I love it up here. You should consider moving here someday. Seriously. The thing I hate most is snow but I can deal with it. Fresh air, green trees and grass, friendly people, and safe neighborhoods mean more!





Quoting MeTaL_MoMmA_08:

lucky you, i hear it's nice up there. i'm down in shitty ol' Flint...

Quoting neverbeamom:

Northern- Traverse City area.








Quoting MeTaL_MoMmA_08:

yeah me too.... where in MI are you?

Quoting neverbeamom:

I'm so screwed if this happens in Michigan.  :(











proudGBmama
by Member on Mar. 9, 2012 at 10:30 AM
30.00? Mines over 200 a month! My mom paid over 100! I wanna know where u live ill send my sister to college in that state!


Quoting notjstanothrmom:

I think people should have access to health care but I don't nessesarily think that birth control or abortion should be funded by state/government run programs. It costs under $30 a month to pay for birth control, if you don't want to get pregnant then that $30 a month is well worth the cost.

I also use NFP to prevent pregnancy. It's free.


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LuvAZmomma
by on Mar. 10, 2012 at 7:54 AM

no birth control will = increase in abortions. Im not saying its right but it is the truth

navymommy
by on Mar. 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM
Heres an idea... if you can't afford birth control (and who can't afford a condom) and you can't afford a child don't MAKE one. It IS possible to not sleep around and therefore be responsible. Sheesh.
This isn't about no abortion or yes abortion... this is about MONEY. People are tired of paying for other people who refuse to take care of themselves and want everyone else pay for their lack of morals and character and judgement.
If charitable funds went only to those actually deserving and needing charity this wouldn't be such a problem... but with everyone running around with thier hand out, feeling entitled to other people's money, these kinds of cuts become required because there just isn't enough money to sustain the socialistic system (and the lazy entitled way of life) being touted as just or "fair".
lyork1
by on Mar. 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Eh, but whether or not a woman conceives a child is affects her health... so I do think if she has health insurance birth control should be included as part of comprehensive health coverage... and planned parenthood is basically a free clinic for womens health coverage.  Yes, I guess she could not have sex, but smokers could stop smoking, but we still cover their treatments..... chronically overweight people could diet, but we as tax payers pay billions for treatment of obesity related illnesses.  I do not think it is really laziness... poor people will live their lives like the rest of us (including having sex) and if they want to help stop the cycle of poverty by not birthing children before they can afford them, more power to them.  

Whether or not said individual should be getting other services (handouts as you call them) such as welfare, foodstamps, ect I think is a completely different matter.  Personally, I agree with some assistance for people who are working towards bettering themselves, but I do think the entire system needs to be restructured to allocate the money to those who are actually trying (laid off but actively looking for work/holding a job/going back to school ect) instead of those who abuse the system and milk tax payers for every dime.  But again this is just my opinion, and I don't think these sorts of federal/state aid problems should influence coverage of birth control by insurance companies or free clinic services like planned parenthood.  

Quoting navymommy:

Heres an idea... if you can't afford birth control (and who can't afford a condom) and you can't afford a child don't MAKE one. It IS possible to not sleep around and therefore be responsible. Sheesh.
This isn't about no abortion or yes abortion... this is about MONEY. People are tired of paying for other people who refuse to take care of themselves and want everyone else pay for their lack of morals and character and judgement.
If charitable funds went only to those actually deserving and needing charity this wouldn't be such a problem... but with everyone running around with thier hand out, feeling entitled to other people's money, these kinds of cuts become required because there just isn't enough money to sustain the socialistic system (and the lazy entitled way of life) being touted as just or "fair".


Xlandria
by on Mar. 12, 2012 at 1:46 PM

   blank stareI do not equate birth control with aborting a child that isn't even conceived yet. Forgive me, but it just doesn't make sense. However, everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that. My friends and family, when asked to describe me, consistantly say, "She has something to say about everything. Not a know-it-all, just freely gives her opinion." I take that as a compliment, plus when given a better thought or belief that I hadn't thought of, I'm not above changing my opinion. Now, having said all that - I started to leave my comment and realized I have a lot to say about this, therefore I believe I will post my thoughts in the "Need to Vent" group and will title it "I Don't Think Birth Control Is Abortion." To be posted later today. 

LoriLou75
by on Mar. 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM
Sure.....sounds like a great plan, just tell everyone to be responsible. Why, with so much wisdom about, do we have unplanned pregnancies at all?

Quoting navymommy:

Heres an idea... if you can't afford birth control (and who can't afford a condom) and you can't afford a child don't MAKE one. It IS possible to not sleep around and therefore be responsible. Sheesh.

This isn't about no abortion or yes abortion... this is about MONEY. People are tired of paying for other people who refuse to take care of themselves and want everyone else pay for their lack of morals and character and judgement.

If charitable funds went only to those actually deserving and needing charity this wouldn't be such a problem... but with everyone running around with thier hand out, feeling entitled to other people's money, these kinds of cuts become required because there just isn't enough money to sustain the socialistic system (and the lazy entitled way of life) being touted as just or "fair".
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knitnanna
by on Mar. 13, 2012 at 1:43 AM

LTsmommy07 said she is sick of hearing "my taxes...."

I believe this is confusing the issue and my stance. The crux of this health mandate is that it forces all businesse regardless to cover a benefit for BC for women. Some of these businesses, such as Churches, do not offer this because of religious views. The second issue is that this mandate singles out young women as a special group to get special coverage at the expense of all. My comments especially pointed out that even though we have insurance it does not cover all our needs and we either have to find a way to pay it ourselves or add additional coverage. I think women have recourse in providing BC measured without such mandates. And if the government is so concerned then they should be looking at low cost measures through State Medicaide and Planned Parenthood. So I remain against this Health mandate as well as Obamacare in general.

Xlandria
by on Mar. 13, 2012 at 3:13 AM

This is defective thinking at it's best. If people would think, study history & then make decisions & choices, then perhaps some sanity & common sense would return. Why should it be wrong to help struggling people to not become burdened with children they can't afford, thus making it harder to get out of their situation? **"Babies who grow up in happy, healthy families grow up toak love as their native language."** And that is what they deserve, not a home that can't provide their basic needs. So, if providing birth control to those who can't afford it, so be it. Don't preach about abstinence, (which is a nice fairy tale but most times doesn't happen), or natural family planning, (which doesn't always work), Let's get a reality check. Sex will happen, but babies don't have to be the result. It is human nature to continue to do something as long as it feels good. The world is over-populated, natural resources are running out, we've polluted everything we can, our country is broke and it's getting harder & harder to feed everyone. We need to dig ourselves and our country out of the pit we're in, not dig in deeper. Think about it and don't critize others until you've lived their life for a week. 

**Pot Shots", by Ashleigh Brilliant**

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