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How the heck do people even compair the two?!

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Ear Piercing and circumcision. Please, how are the two even comparable in any stretch of the word????


Lets look at this rationally.

Effects of Circumcision

  • 50 to 80% of the total penile skin system, radically immobilizing the remaining shaft skin.  If unfolded and spread out flat, the average adult foreskin measures 15 to 20 square inches, about the size of a postcard.

  • Most of the erogenous nerve tissue on the penis.   The foreskin contains between 10,000 and 20,000 specialized erotogenic nerve endings of various types, which can discern slight motion, subtle changes in temperature, and fine gradations in texture.  The amputation of this highly-innervated tissue reduces the sensitivity of the penis to that of ordinary skin.

  • The densely innervated Ridged Bands, a specialized, extremely erogenous section of the prepuce located at the juncture of the outer foreskin and inner mucosal tissue.

  • Approximately half of the smooth muscle sheath called the Dartos fascia.

  • Thousands of coiled, fine-touch receptor cells, including Meissner's Corpuscles.

  • An estimated 240 feet of microscopic nerves, including branches of the dorsal nerve.

  • Several feet of blood vessels, including the frenular artery and portions of the dorsal artery, the loss of which interrupts normal blood flow to the shaft and glans of the penis, severely damaging its natural function.

  • Lymphatic vessels, the loss of which interrupts the lymph flow within the body's immune system.

  • The entire immunological defense system of the soft mucosa which produces antibacterial and antiviral proteins such as lysozyme, the same as found in mother's milk, and plasma cells which secrete immunoglobulin antibodies.

  • Ectopic sebaceous glands, which lubricate, moisturize, and regulate a healthy pH balance, thereby maintaining the erotogenic sensitivity of the glans.

  • The apocrine glands, which produce pheromones, nature's powerful, silent, invisible sexual signals/stimulants.

  • Specialized epithelial Langerhans cells, an immune system component.

  • Estrogen receptors - the purpose and value of which are not yet fully understood.

  • The connective synechiae, which fuses the foreskin to the glans while the penis develops during infancy.  It is destroyed when the foreskin is torn from the glans during the circumcision operation.

  • The frenulum, the sensitive 'V'-shaped tethering structure at the base of the glans on the underside of the penis, is also usually amputated, severed, or destroyed.

  • The protective covering of the glans, which is actually an internal organ.  The foreskin shields the glans from abrasion, drying, and callusing, and protects the glans from dirt and other contaminants.

  • Loss of sexual sensitivity in the glans.  The glans of an intact penis is normally a soft, moist, delicate organ, similar in texture to the smooth skin lining the inside of the lips of your mouth.  When the foreskin is amputated it no longer provides protection to the glans against abrasion, or even exposure to the air.  This causes the glans to dry out - imagine what would happen to your eyeballs if your eyelids were removed.  It also causes the skin on the glans to thicken and harden as a protection against abrasion.  This 'callousing' effect - known as keratinization - causes any remaining nerves on the glans to become buried under many layers of skin cells, severly reducing the sensitivity of the glans to external stimulation - such as a soft touch.  The sensitivity continues to decrease over time, until eventually all sensitivity is lost.

  • 10% to 20% of the penis's circumference, because its double-layered wrapping of loose foreskin is now missing, making the circumcised penis thinner.

  • As much as one inch of the erect penis's length due to scarring, and shrinkage from loss of the mobile, richly-vascularized foreskin.

  • The gliding action of the penis within its foreskin. The foreskin's abundance (15-20 sq.in.) of specialized, self-lubricating skin gives the natural penis its anatomically unique ability to smoothly slide back and forth within itself, thereby permitting non-abrasive intercourse, without drying out the vagina.

  • The deep pink to red to dark purple natural coloration of the glans.

  • There is considerable evidence that a circumcised penis loses its capacity for subtle electromagnetic communication that occurs only during contact between mucous membranes, an interaction which contributes to the sense of the healing power of sexual ecstasy.  In other words, circumcision forever diminishes the intensity of both the male and female orgasm and its physical, psychological, and spiritual benefits.
  • Many babies die as a result of circumcision, a fact the circumcision industry obscures and conceals.

Effects of Ear Piercing

 Baby is left with small hole in their intact ear lobe. A hole which will grow over and be indistinguishable as an adult.

Death by ear peircing? - I couldn't find any cases

Maimed by ear piercing? - Maybe... I couldn't find any stats


Really, can we just stop comparing the two.. for or against circumcision.. the two are just not at all the same thing!


by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Replies (21-30):
opinionatedmom
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM

 poor horsie rest in peace

Quoting acaisha:

obviously the people using them to compair don't find them pointless.

Quoting opinionatedmom:

 

Quoting stockuponlove:

Both are pointless arguments. That's how I compare the two!

 


 

LntLckrsCmQut
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM
3 moms liked this

I personally do not see the difference between putting a hole in a baby's ear against their will or cutting off a part of their body, against their will. Either way, you ARE altering their body against their will.

acaisha
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM
1 mom liked this


Quoting Dzyre1115:

 Your obsession with the penis' of children who are not yours is a touch alarming!

your going to throw your hip out with all the button humping


TrouserMouse
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Ear piercing can be deadly.

Both the penises you sent me were circ'd btw...lol.
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carterscutie85
by *Shanny's Stalker* on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM

*Compare

Don't worry. CM messes with my brain sometimes too. I catch myself typing "loose" instead of "lose" sometimes LOL.

acaisha
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM


Quoting TrouserMouse:

Ear piercing can be deadly.

Both the penises you sent me were circ'd btw...lol.

lol they made cosmetics out of the extra peices.


TrouserMouse
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM
2 moms liked this
Actually, there have been tons of deaths due to ear piercing.
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AbqAnodyne
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM
"circumcision industry"? Who makes money off of circumcision? Hardly seems lucrative. I must be incredibly naive...


Quoting acaisha:

Ear Piercing and circumcision. Please, how are the two even comparable in any stretch of the word????


Lets look at this rationally.

Effects of Circumcision

  • 50 to 80% of the total penile skin system, radically

    immobilizing the remaining shaft skin.  If unfolded and spread

    out flat, the average adult foreskin measures 15 to 20 square

    inches, about the size of a postcard.





  • Most of the erogenous nerve tissue on the penis.

      The foreskin contains between 10,000 and 20,000 specialized

    erotogenic nerve endings of various types, which can discern

    slight motion, subtle changes in temperature, and fine gradations

    in texture.  The amputation of this highly-innervated tissue

    reduces the sensitivity of the penis to that of ordinary skin.





  • The densely innervated Ridged Bands, a specialized,

    extremely erogenous section of the prepuce located at the

    juncture of the outer foreskin and inner mucosal tissue.





  • Approximately half of the smooth muscle sheath called

    the Dartos fascia.





  • Thousands of coiled, fine-touch receptor cells, including

    Meissner's Corpuscles.





  • An estimated 240 feet of microscopic nerves, including

    branches of the dorsal nerve.





  • Several feet of blood vessels, including the frenular

    artery and portions of the dorsal artery, the loss of which

    interrupts normal blood flow to the shaft and glans of the penis,

    severely damaging its natural function.





  • Lymphatic vessels, the loss of which interrupts the

    lymph flow within the body's immune system.





  • The entire immunological defense system of the soft mucosa

    which produces antibacterial and antiviral proteins such as

    lysozyme, the same as found in mother's milk, and plasma cells

    which secrete immunoglobulin antibodies.





  • Ectopic sebaceous glands, which lubricate, moisturize,

    and regulate a healthy pH balance, thereby maintaining the

    erotogenic sensitivity of the glans.





  • The apocrine glands, which produce pheromones, nature's

    powerful, silent, invisible sexual signals/stimulants.





  • Specialized epithelial Langerhans cells, an immune

    system component.





  • Estrogen receptors - the purpose and value of which

    are not yet fully understood.





  • The connective synechiae, which fuses the foreskin to

    the glans while the penis develops during infancy.  It is

    destroyed when the foreskin is torn from the glans during

    the circumcision operation.





  • The frenulum, the sensitive 'V'-shaped tethering structure

    at the base of the glans on the underside of the penis, is also

    usually amputated, severed, or destroyed.





  • The protective covering of the glans, which is actually

    an internal organ.  The foreskin shields the glans from

    abrasion, drying, and callusing, and protects the glans

    from dirt and other contaminants.





  • Loss of sexual sensitivity in the glans.  The glans of an

    intact penis is normally a soft, moist, delicate organ, similar

    in texture to the smooth skin lining the inside of the lips of

    your mouth.  When the foreskin is amputated it no longer provides

    protection to the glans against abrasion, or even exposure to

    the air.  This causes the glans to dry out - imagine what would

    happen to your eyeballs if your eyelids were removed.  It also

    causes the skin on the glans to thicken and harden as a protection

    against abrasion.  This 'callousing' effect - known as

    keratinization - causes any remaining nerves on the glans to

    become buried under many layers of skin cells, severly reducing

    the sensitivity of the glans to external stimulation - such as

    a soft touch.  The sensitivity continues to decrease over time,

    until eventually all sensitivity is lost.





  • 10% to 20% of the penis's circumference, because its

    double-layered wrapping of loose foreskin is now missing,

    making the circumcised penis thinner.





  • As much as one inch of the erect penis's length due to

    scarring, and shrinkage from loss of the mobile,

    richly-vascularized foreskin.





  • The gliding action of the penis within its foreskin.

    The foreskin's abundance (15-20 sq.in.) of specialized,

    self-lubricating skin gives the natural penis its anatomically

    unique ability to smoothly slide back and forth within itself,

    thereby permitting non-abrasive intercourse, without drying

    out the vagina.





  • The deep pink to red to dark purple natural coloration

    of the glans.





  • There is considerable evidence that a circumcised penis

    loses its capacity for subtle electromagnetic communication

    that occurs only during contact between mucous membranes,

    an interaction which contributes to the sense of the healing

    power of sexual ecstasy.  In other words, circumcision

    forever diminishes the intensity of both the male and female

    orgasm and its physical, psychological, and spiritual benefits.
  • Many babies die as a result of circumcision, a fact the

    circumcision industry obscures and conceals.

Effects of Ear Piercing

 Baby is left with small hole in their intact ear lobe. A hole which will grow over and be indistinguishable as an adult.

Death by ear peircing? - I couldn't find any cases

Maimed by ear piercing? - Maybe... I couldn't find any stats


Really, can we just stop comparing the two.. for or against circumcision.. the two are just not at all the same thing!


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acaisha
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:42 PM


Quoting carterscutie85:

*Compare

Don't worry. CM messes with my brain sometimes too. I catch myself typing "loose" instead of "lose" sometimes LOL.

nah I just have bad spelling and CM doesn't spell check the topic lol


acaisha
by on Apr. 20, 2012 at 12:43 PM

the doctors being paid, the people making the instruments, the sale of foreskins.

Quoting AbqAnodyne:

"circumcision industry"? Who makes money off of circumcision? Hardly seems lucrative. I must be incredibly naive...


Quoting acaisha:

Ear Piercing and circumcision. Please, how are the two even comparable in any stretch of the word????


Lets look at this rationally.

Effects of Circumcision

  • 50 to 80% of the total penile skin system, radically

    immobilizing the remaining shaft skin.  If unfolded and spread

    out flat, the average adult foreskin measures 15 to 20 square

    inches, about the size of a postcard.





  • Most of the erogenous nerve tissue on the penis.

      The foreskin contains between 10,000 and 20,000 specialized

    erotogenic nerve endings of various types, which can discern

    slight motion, subtle changes in temperature, and fine gradations

    in texture.  The amputation of this highly-innervated tissue

    reduces the sensitivity of the penis to that of ordinary skin.





  • The densely innervated Ridged Bands, a specialized,

    extremely erogenous section of the prepuce located at the

    juncture of the outer foreskin and inner mucosal tissue.





  • Approximately half of the smooth muscle sheath called

    the Dartos fascia.





  • Thousands of coiled, fine-touch receptor cells, including

    Meissner's Corpuscles.





  • An estimated 240 feet of microscopic nerves, including

    branches of the dorsal nerve.





  • Several feet of blood vessels, including the frenular

    artery and portions of the dorsal artery, the loss of which

    interrupts normal blood flow to the shaft and glans of the penis,

    severely damaging its natural function.





  • Lymphatic vessels, the loss of which interrupts the

    lymph flow within the body's immune system.





  • The entire immunological defense system of the soft mucosa

    which produces antibacterial and antiviral proteins such as

    lysozyme, the same as found in mother's milk, and plasma cells

    which secrete immunoglobulin antibodies.





  • Ectopic sebaceous glands, which lubricate, moisturize,

    and regulate a healthy pH balance, thereby maintaining the

    erotogenic sensitivity of the glans.





  • The apocrine glands, which produce pheromones, nature's

    powerful, silent, invisible sexual signals/stimulants.





  • Specialized epithelial Langerhans cells, an immune

    system component.





  • Estrogen receptors - the purpose and value of which

    are not yet fully understood.





  • The connective synechiae, which fuses the foreskin to

    the glans while the penis develops during infancy.  It is

    destroyed when the foreskin is torn from the glans during

    the circumcision operation.





  • The frenulum, the sensitive 'V'-shaped tethering structure

    at the base of the glans on the underside of the penis, is also

    usually amputated, severed, or destroyed.





  • The protective covering of the glans, which is actually

    an internal organ.  The foreskin shields the glans from

    abrasion, drying, and callusing, and protects the glans

    from dirt and other contaminants.





  • Loss of sexual sensitivity in the glans.  The glans of an

    intact penis is normally a soft, moist, delicate organ, similar

    in texture to the smooth skin lining the inside of the lips of

    your mouth.  When the foreskin is amputated it no longer provides

    protection to the glans against abrasion, or even exposure to

    the air.  This causes the glans to dry out - imagine what would

    happen to your eyeballs if your eyelids were removed.  It also

    causes the skin on the glans to thicken and harden as a protection

    against abrasion.  This 'callousing' effect - known as

    keratinization - causes any remaining nerves on the glans to

    become buried under many layers of skin cells, severly reducing

    the sensitivity of the glans to external stimulation - such as

    a soft touch.  The sensitivity continues to decrease over time,

    until eventually all sensitivity is lost.





  • 10% to 20% of the penis's circumference, because its

    double-layered wrapping of loose foreskin is now missing,

    making the circumcised penis thinner.





  • As much as one inch of the erect penis's length due to

    scarring, and shrinkage from loss of the mobile,

    richly-vascularized foreskin.





  • The gliding action of the penis within its foreskin.

    The foreskin's abundance (15-20 sq.in.) of specialized,

    self-lubricating skin gives the natural penis its anatomically

    unique ability to smoothly slide back and forth within itself,

    thereby permitting non-abrasive intercourse, without drying

    out the vagina.





  • The deep pink to red to dark purple natural coloration

    of the glans.





  • There is considerable evidence that a circumcised penis

    loses its capacity for subtle electromagnetic communication

    that occurs only during contact between mucous membranes,

    an interaction which contributes to the sense of the healing

    power of sexual ecstasy.  In other words, circumcision

    forever diminishes the intensity of both the male and female

    orgasm and its physical, psychological, and spiritual benefits.
  • Many babies die as a result of circumcision, a fact the

    circumcision industry obscures and conceals.

Effects of Ear Piercing

 Baby is left with small hole in their intact ear lobe. A hole which will grow over and be indistinguishable as an adult.

Death by ear peircing? - I couldn't find any cases

Maimed by ear piercing? - Maybe... I couldn't find any stats


Really, can we just stop comparing the two.. for or against circumcision.. the two are just not at all the same thing!




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