So, I've seen in many posts about gay marriage (and heard in many real life discussions on same) someone, or many someones, say something like "Marriage should belong to the church. Everyone else, gay or not, should have a civil union"
They are basically saying that the term "marriage" is a specifically religious term, and should only be able to be used by people of whatever religion they are claiming "owns" it. They are also saying that everyone who is not of that religion should be allowed to be legally joined with another person, but not use the term "married".
Every time I see someone say this, I bring up the fact that marriage predates Christianity(as that is basically the only religion I have seen anyone say should 'own' the term), and started out not belonging to any specific religion at all. So I ask why ANY church, or religion, should get to use the term, and everyone else can't? What gives you the right to just decide it belongs to one set of people, when it used to belong to everyone? And what gives you the right to say that everyone else should have to use a seperate term, because they don't believe the same as you?
*Since this is cafemom and I'm sure at least one person will find a way to twist my words into something else, this is NOT against Christianity, or any other religion, I am NOT saying everyone of any religion feels this way, I am NOT saying you all have to feel the way I do.. anything else I should cover? No? Let the discussion commence.
Yes, I agree. Holy matrimony is religious. Marriage is not.
When I refer to civil union vs. marriage I simply mean the legal aspect vs. the religious aspect. It's easier for people to understand because in this day and age, and really that's all that is relevant, marriage is considered a spiritual ceremony in a church or other spiritual setting and a civil union is just that a courthouse civil union.
According to WHO?
I got married. I applied for a marriage license, not a civil union license. I did not get married in a church, and both my husband and I are Agnostic.
Quoting Dzyre1115:When I refer to civil union vs. marriage I simply mean the legal aspect vs. the religious aspect. It's easier for people to understand because in this day and age, and really that's all that is relevant, marriage is considered a spiritual ceremony in a church or other spiritual setting and a civil union is just that a courthouse civil union.
You missed the point......
Quoting Dollyrot:
According to WHO?
I got married. I applied for a marriage license, not a civil union license. I did not get married in a church, and both my husband and I are Agnostic.
Quoting Dzyre1115:
When I refer to civil union vs. marriage I simply mean the legal aspect vs. the religious aspect. It's easier for people to understand because in this day and age, and really that's all that is relevant, marriage is considered a spiritual ceremony in a church or other spiritual setting and a civil union is just that a courthouse civil union.
I'm atheist and I want to get MARRIED. I don't want to say "I'm civil unioned to my partner".
How am I missing the point? I think you're the one who missed it, since the whole point of MY post was to ask WHY people say that marriage is the religious aspect, and then you JUST said that marriage is the religious aspect, spiritual, etc.. yet didn't explain WHY you think that. You just reiterated everything I said in my post that people have BEEN saying, without giving any reason why people think like that. If I missed any point, it's because you didn't give one.
Quoting Dzyre1115:You missed the point......
Quoting Dollyrot:
According to WHO?
I got married. I applied for a marriage license, not a civil union license. I did not get married in a church, and both my husband and I are Agnostic.
Quoting Dzyre1115:
When I refer to civil union vs. marriage I simply mean the legal aspect vs. the religious aspect. It's easier for people to understand because in this day and age, and really that's all that is relevant, marriage is considered a spiritual ceremony in a church or other spiritual setting and a civil union is just that a courthouse civil union.
Quoting Dollyrot:According to WHO?
I got married. I applied for a marriage license, not a civil union license. I did not get married in a church, and both my husband and I are Agnostic.
Quoting Dzyre1115:When I refer to civil union vs. marriage I simply mean the legal aspect vs. the religious aspect. It's easier for people to understand because in this day and age, and really that's all that is relevant, marriage is considered a spiritual ceremony in a church or other spiritual setting and a civil union is just that a courthouse civil union.
Are these really inappropriate pictures? *pics*
Does sex in the 1st 30 days kill a relationship?
- Dollyrot
on Jun. 8, 2012 at 1:20 PM