If you're in direct sales (aka Avon, Mary Kay, 31, etc....) rant
You are selling sub-par crap that I could get at any drug/big-box retail store for half the price.
Your methods of roping your good friends and family into hosting "parties" and subsequently roping their friends into buying your sub-par crap is exploitative and annoying. And don't tell me that "oh, just come! You don't have to buy anything - it's FUN!"
a) while you all annoy me, I'm not going to show up to a friend's "party" and not buy anything. We all know that's the game
b) WTF is "fun" about these parties? Oh, wait! I might win a nail file if I'm the last one holding it during the "right, left" game. Whoop de fucking do.
Financial freedom, empowerment, being your own boss, reaching your dreams - please don't give me that f'ing schpiel. EVERY single company has the same tagline in one form or another. You make money by annoying people into buying your crap/signing up to become a part of that "company." Then, under the guise of "coaching" them, you arm-wrestle them into buying yet even more shit to enhance their new business, which ultimately ends up on ebay 3 months later when your disgruntled "downline" realizes it's all a farce and realizes it's all a farce.
Is there a secret password I need to use to get you guys to STFU once I polietely tell you, in no uncertain terms that I am not interested in being all that I can be or attaining unlimited financial wealth by selling over-priced lipsticks/skincreams/bags/dip mixes/coffee/scrap book supplies/organic cleaning shit? What part of "no" is not understood? I know the "big wigs" at your company give you an answer for every possible objection, but at what point do you just give up?
::End rant::
Good night!
Beautifully said, my friend.
My favorite part of this entire thread - aside from the whackjob that doesn't know the definition of "monogrammed bag" yet told me I was an idiot, is the "well obviously YOU couldn't hack it" responses. If they only knew what my actual full time job was - lol.
If I *wanted* to harass family and friends into buying the stuff I was selling, I could have - but I was actually embarrassed when I opened up the box of orders from my initial launch party and saw what the tote that my aunt spent $52 on actually looked like. I'm not going to aggressively sell things that I don't think are worth the money to people I care about. That's what the people who are with companies where you HAVE to be pushy if you want sales don't get.
Quoting teamwhitlow:
I love that, right here in this thread, there are so many great examples of the condescending direct sales people that the OP was ranting about. I have 20+ years of sales and marketing and I can tell you first hand if your product has to be peddled it IS subpar. Most great products sell themselves. When is the last time you saw someone peddling Tiffany or Coach (unless they were a knock off) Avon and Mary Kay ARE built on schemes and preying on your unsuspecting friends and family members. Scentsy is THE MOST overpriced subpar crap in recent history. No wonder so many housewives get their credit cards taken away, LOL
mmhmmm - and did you also get images of designer purses with the designer's monogram, too?
Quoting my4yahoos:
I don't know because when I typed in monogrammed purses into Google, I got a tone of sites selling things with initials or words embroidered on them not a monogrammed pattern.
Quoting LiliMama18:
Still waiting ----
Quoting LiliMama18:
Lol - its called....wait for it....a MONOGRAMMED PURSE. Can ya believe it?
Tell me one thing I'm pretending to know that I don't...just one...come on...
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Grow up! Unlike you I don't try to pretend that I know things I don't. I don't purchase purses that are so expensive I could pay 3-4 months of rent with.
Quoting LiliMama18:
Yeah it does matter, if you're going to call me an idiot you can at least answer the question, if you can't or won't, well-you've proved my point. :)
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Does it matter? I dont buy those purses..... they are over priced....
Quoting LiliMama18:
How come you answered this, but didn't answer when I asked you what style the purse I posted was?
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Lol.... Wow....
Quoting LiliMama18:
Yep not defensive at all. You're keeping me amused as I stretch out on a lawn chair at my yard sale. You, on the other hand are getting frustrated and angry -I'm not :)
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Who said I was getting defensive? You point out your opinions.... I point out facts about my business.... Dont like it too fucking bad....
Quoting LiliMama18:
And she is sooooo successful at it, she doesn't get defensive at all when people bring up valid points about her line of work
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
I sell for Intimate Expressions. LOVE IT! Been with the company since Oct and have made more since Oct than I have in my day job. By end of this year I would love to make this my only income.
Quoting PinkHairMAMA:
I sell for slumber, and love it. We always have so much fun and women who come in nervous, or unhappy they were dragged to this "stupid party" are always happy by the end.
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Well...... I sell sex toys.... sorry you feel that all of these types of parties are not fun, but they are.
With the right consultant in any company of these types of parties, you can have fun.
If you don't want to buy, don't.
I saw your back and forth on the thread and honey you might as well argue with your coffee table, lol! And yes I totally agree that pushy sales people totally believe their own bs it's like they are hypnotozed zombies sometimes, which is why I totally loved your rant!
Quoting LiliMama18:
Beautifully said, my friend.
My favorite part of this entire thread - aside from the whackjob that doesn't know the definition of "monogrammed bag" yet told me I was an idiot, is the "well obviously YOU couldn't hack it" responses. If they only knew what my actual full time job was - lol.
If I *wanted* to harass family and friends into buying the stuff I was selling, I could have - but I was actually embarrassed when I opened up the box of orders from my initial launch party and saw what the tote that my aunt spent $52 on actually looked like. I'm not going to aggressively sell things that I don't think are worth the money to people I care about. That's what the people who are with companies where you HAVE to be pushy if you want sales don't get.
Quoting teamwhitlow:
I love that, right here in this thread, there are so many great examples of the condescending direct sales people that the OP was ranting about. I have 20+ years of sales and marketing and I can tell you first hand if your product has to be peddled it IS subpar. Most great products sell themselves. When is the last time you saw someone peddling Tiffany or Coach (unless they were a knock off) Avon and Mary Kay ARE built on schemes and preying on your unsuspecting friends and family members. Scentsy is THE MOST overpriced subpar crap in recent history. No wonder so many housewives get their credit cards taken away, LOL
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Quoting LiliMama18:mmhmmm - and did you also get images of designer purses with the designer's monogram, too?
Quoting my4yahoos:
I don't know because when I typed in monogrammed purses into Google, I got a tone of sites selling things with initials or words embroidered on them not a monogrammed pattern.
Quoting LiliMama18:
Still waiting ----
Quoting LiliMama18:
Lol - its called....wait for it....a MONOGRAMMED PURSE. Can ya believe it?
Tell me one thing I'm pretending to know that I don't...just one...come on...
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Grow up! Unlike you I don't try to pretend that I know things I don't. I don't purchase purses that are so expensive I could pay 3-4 months of rent with.
Quoting LiliMama18:
Yeah it does matter, if you're going to call me an idiot you can at least answer the question, if you can't or won't, well-you've proved my point. :)
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Does it matter? I dont buy those purses..... they are over priced....
Quoting LiliMama18:
How come you answered this, but didn't answer when I asked you what style the purse I posted was?
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Lol.... Wow....
Quoting LiliMama18:
Yep not defensive at all. You're keeping me amused as I stretch out on a lawn chair at my yard sale. You, on the other hand are getting frustrated and angry -I'm not :)
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Who said I was getting defensive? You point out your opinions.... I point out facts about my business.... Dont like it too fucking bad....
Quoting LiliMama18:
And she is sooooo successful at it, she doesn't get defensive at all when people bring up valid points about her line of work
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
I sell for Intimate Expressions. LOVE IT! Been with the company since Oct and have made more since Oct than I have in my day job. By end of this year I would love to make this my only income.
Quoting PinkHairMAMA:
I sell for slumber, and love it. We always have so much fun and women who come in nervous, or unhappy they were dragged to this "stupid party" are always happy by the end.
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Well...... I sell sex toys.... sorry you feel that all of these types of parties are not fun, but they are.
With the right consultant in any company of these types of parties, you can have fun.
If you don't want to buy, don't.
All of my SILs sell something, luckily I love everything they sell :)
A monogram is simply a logo comprised of initials. It can be your own initials, or a designers initials. Generally, when we're talking about bags a monogram refers to a particular designer's initials (think the LV for Louis Vuitton, or the "C" on Coach, or the "F" on Fendi). I don't know of many people who buy purses with thier own monogram on them.
I did a search for "monogram bag" just for the hell of it, and on p.1 it's pretty split up evenly between designer monograms and bags that people have had personalized with their own monogram.
Quoting my4yahoos:
Not on page one. I have not heard of that type of monogramming, only the initials like on towels and things.
Quoting LiliMama18:
mmhmmm - and did you also get images of designer purses with the designer's monogram, too?
Quoting my4yahoos:
I don't know because when I typed in monogrammed purses into Google, I got a tone of sites selling things with initials or words embroidered on them not a monogrammed pattern.
Quoting LiliMama18:
Still waiting ----
Quoting LiliMama18:
Lol - its called....wait for it....a MONOGRAMMED PURSE. Can ya believe it?
Tell me one thing I'm pretending to know that I don't...just one...come on...
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Grow up! Unlike you I don't try to pretend that I know things I don't. I don't purchase purses that are so expensive I could pay 3-4 months of rent with.
Quoting LiliMama18:
Yeah it does matter, if you're going to call me an idiot you can at least answer the question, if you can't or won't, well-you've proved my point. :)
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Does it matter? I dont buy those purses..... they are over priced....
Quoting LiliMama18:
How come you answered this, but didn't answer when I asked you what style the purse I posted was?
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Lol.... Wow....
Quoting LiliMama18:
Yep not defensive at all. You're keeping me amused as I stretch out on a lawn chair at my yard sale. You, on the other hand are getting frustrated and angry -I'm not :)
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Who said I was getting defensive? You point out your opinions.... I point out facts about my business.... Dont like it too fucking bad....
Quoting LiliMama18:
And she is sooooo successful at it, she doesn't get defensive at all when people bring up valid points about her line of work
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
I sell for Intimate Expressions. LOVE IT! Been with the company since Oct and have made more since Oct than I have in my day job. By end of this year I would love to make this my only income.
Quoting PinkHairMAMA:
I sell for slumber, and love it. We always have so much fun and women who come in nervous, or unhappy they were dragged to this "stupid party" are always happy by the end.
Quoting Luv.My.Kidz:
Well...... I sell sex toys.... sorry you feel that all of these types of parties are not fun, but they are.
With the right consultant in any company of these types of parties, you can have fun.
If you don't want to buy, don't.
Please don't insult the coffee table, what did the coffee table ever do to you? ;)
I have the time to bs and at this point it's just amusing - I'm still anxiously waiting for her response on what the pattern on the Fendi purse is, although I don't think I'll get one.
Quoting teamwhitlow:
I saw your back and forth on the thread and honey you might as well argue with your coffee table, lol! And yes I totally agree that pushy sales people totally believe their own bs it's like they are hypnotozed zombies sometimes, which is why I totally loved your rant!
Quoting LiliMama18:
Beautifully said, my friend.
My favorite part of this entire thread - aside from the whackjob that doesn't know the definition of "monogrammed bag" yet told me I was an idiot, is the "well obviously YOU couldn't hack it" responses. If they only knew what my actual full time job was - lol.
If I *wanted* to harass family and friends into buying the stuff I was selling, I could have - but I was actually embarrassed when I opened up the box of orders from my initial launch party and saw what the tote that my aunt spent $52 on actually looked like. I'm not going to aggressively sell things that I don't think are worth the money to people I care about. That's what the people who are with companies where you HAVE to be pushy if you want sales don't get.
Quoting teamwhitlow:
I love that, right here in this thread, there are so many great examples of the condescending direct sales people that the OP was ranting about. I have 20+ years of sales and marketing and I can tell you first hand if your product has to be peddled it IS subpar. Most great products sell themselves. When is the last time you saw someone peddling Tiffany or Coach (unless they were a knock off) Avon and Mary Kay ARE built on schemes and preying on your unsuspecting friends and family members. Scentsy is THE MOST overpriced subpar crap in recent history. No wonder so many housewives get their credit cards taken away, LOL
ROFL sorry coffee table:)
Quoting LiliMama18:
Please don't insult the coffee table, what did the coffee table ever do to you? ;)
I have the time to bs and at this point it's just amusing - I'm still anxiously waiting for her response on what the pattern on the Fendi purse is, although I don't think I'll get one.
Quoting teamwhitlow:
I saw your back and forth on the thread and honey you might as well argue with your coffee table, lol! And yes I totally agree that pushy sales people totally believe their own bs it's like they are hypnotozed zombies sometimes, which is why I totally loved your rant!
Quoting LiliMama18:
Beautifully said, my friend.
My favorite part of this entire thread - aside from the whackjob that doesn't know the definition of "monogrammed bag" yet told me I was an idiot, is the "well obviously YOU couldn't hack it" responses. If they only knew what my actual full time job was - lol.
If I *wanted* to harass family and friends into buying the stuff I was selling, I could have - but I was actually embarrassed when I opened up the box of orders from my initial launch party and saw what the tote that my aunt spent $52 on actually looked like. I'm not going to aggressively sell things that I don't think are worth the money to people I care about. That's what the people who are with companies where you HAVE to be pushy if you want sales don't get.
Quoting teamwhitlow:
I love that, right here in this thread, there are so many great examples of the condescending direct sales people that the OP was ranting about. I have 20+ years of sales and marketing and I can tell you first hand if your product has to be peddled it IS subpar. Most great products sell themselves. When is the last time you saw someone peddling Tiffany or Coach (unless they were a knock off) Avon and Mary Kay ARE built on schemes and preying on your unsuspecting friends and family members. Scentsy is THE MOST overpriced subpar crap in recent history. No wonder so many housewives get their credit cards taken away, LOL
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on Jun. 9, 2012 at 12:43 AM