Do you think families with autistic children should be able to...
Well take it from someone who has a form of autism and I can say the one time I didn't use my fast pass I ended up in amusement park clinic with a very bad case of the panic attacks, I had a total of 45 in 2 hrs while in the clinic alone and double that outside the clinic, These passes aren't just to cut in line, they help make going to the park fun for the whole family rather then hell. Plus would you rather them cut line or be in the middle of the thick winding line and have an autistic fit and be stuck next to you for god knows how long. Not so hard to figure out when you think of the alternatives.
No, but after an hour and the opportunity is there to take, and stop making people around you feel uncomfortable, why not take it??
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And thats totally understandable. But do u think just letting them cut to the front of the line to avoid a meltdown is gonna help teach them?
Quoting Cubanmom84:But unfortunately, not everyone is like you, and your right, if you know that putting your child in a situation like that would make them have a breakdown, why do it? but wouldn't you push your child to be the best to help themselves, to help them achieve everything they want? that is what we try to do, simply by putting them in some uncomfortable situations so they can get better, little by little, step by step, we just have to do things differently, thats all.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
I would like to add. I have NEVER looked at another parent like they were bad parents when a child is having a meltdown or a tantrum. Unless i know that person well enough to know they are bad parents and let their kids run their life, i just look at it as something kids do.
Quoting Cubanmom84:True, I agree, but is it fair that as parents of autistic kids we are looked at as bad parents or abusive parents when our child is having a meltdown in a public place, no, is not, but we deal with it everyday, and everyday we have let our child know that people stare at him because his not normal, life is not fair, we have to deal with that.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And i agree. All kids should be treated equally. Whether they are mentally or physically disabled or mentally or physically advanced. Meaning a child cutting in line and possibly causing the other kids to miss out on a ride would be unfair, right?
Quoting Cubanmom84:Your right, its life, and the reality is that there are kids with severe autism that are brought out of their house so they can mingle with other kids because it helps them, social interaction is good for them so they can learn how to behave in society, and a meltdown is to be expected because it is part of the process.... and most don't understand this.... yes logically is not a good idea to take them to such a crowded place, but we do sometimes because we want to try to see if they can handle the experience once in a while.... is not something you do every day, but we do have the right to take them any where.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
Logically them parents cant expect others to treat their child special because of THEIR hope. It sucks. I cant say i know because i dont, but i could imagine how bad it sucks. Most parents have hopes for their kids austistic or not. I would like my 2 year old to get to go to the moves with his dad and older brother. He has a right to be there. But i know he wouldnt be able to sit there without being a disturbance so i dont let him go. And i dont enjoy hearing him scream and cry because daddy left him behind. But it not fair for my older son to not get to do things cause his brother cant. Its life
Quoting Cubanmom84:Obviously your a professional so you will see it from a logical point of view, but we are parents, emotionally involved with the child on a daily basis. I know what your saying, I don't take my child to amusement parks nor water parks nor anywhere with lots of noises nor lots of people because I KNOW what it will triger, but some parents still hold hope, and you can't take that away with a logical explanation.
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
Not necessarily. If children have limits, they have limits. If they are disabled, they are disabled. Many children would love to leave a hospital bed and just sit outside for one day....that never happens. Some children wish they could walk, sadly that will never happen. Some children wish they could see, hear, etc.....and it never happens. Again, there is nothing wrong if you are utilizing environments that are triggers for a lesson, but to receive a hop to the front of the line in hopes it doesn't give them a meltdown is not logical. As a parent with an autistic child I would assume your child is receiving CBT so this is something you should mention to your therapist and see what he/she states. I can almost certainly guarantee they will agree with me.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I totally agree, I avoid crowded places or places with loud noises because my son does get over excited and one thing goes to another, but you never really know when they might have a meltdown tho, you might see one coming but it doesn't happen every day. And don't they deserve to see the same things as other children, or try at least to give them a great experience as parents? I know they have limitations, but if you try it and he does well and he has fun? but what if they don't? you never really know, so your going to keep them away from others all his life, wouldn't you think that is a miserable existence??
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
It's hard to understand why a parent of a child with autism, and a child that can't deal with certain environments, would take him to a place as such. My youngest son has heart issues so he can't ride certain rides even with an adult....guess what....we don't even make those an option because they are not an option. Why would a parent take a child to a place that will cause him undo stress and a meltdown? If the child is not receiving CBT, then the parent is at fault for the situation. As a therapist myself, I will never understand why a parent does this to their child when there is absolutely no.need. Surly it would be different if the situation was a learning field trip, but that is not the topic we are discussing.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I am extremely shocked right now... because I thought that people were more aware ... but they are not. And I am trying to explain something that in my head is normal, is what I live with everyday, and I can't understand why other's don't even consider another possibility?? its really strange to me, then again is normal to me. Once my son starts a meltdown, no matter where I am, he hits the floor and I have to sit next to him and try to calmly get through him before it gets a lots worse, but once that child is screaming you know that they are not listening to a word your saying...
Quoting LadyCat97:
It's just sad with all the information available these days people are still awful. I also don't think most of the people commenting have ever been around a child with low functioning autism. I think they are all envisioning a child that is in mainstreamed classes and can function like most NT kids but just has a few if the autism traits. My dd is the same as your child. Once the meltdown starts the day is over. My dd has scratched and bloodied her face and she butes herself and when I stop her I get the same.
Quoting Cubanmom84:Yeah I know what you mean, I rarely take mine anywhere, even the park is annoying because people look at you like your killing your child, people have come up to me and asked me what was wrong with my child just in case I was doing something to him.... sometimes I feel like people expect us to lock them up like wild animals...
Quoting LadyCat97:
I'd say it depends on the severity. I have a dd with low functioning autism. She has sensory issues that cause her major meltdowns in most public settings so waiting in long lines is just torture. If a child is high functioning and is able to be mainstreamed full time at school than I don't believe they would need the pass.
I did want to add that I rarely take this dd to public places like this for the reasons on here. When she does have meltdowns people can be so judgmental unforgiving. We were planning to take our older girls to Wizarding World of Harry Potter in April when we went to Florida but we decided against it because even with autism awareness on the rise people still don't understand that it's usually out of both the parents and child's hands when meltdowns start.
"Don't underestimate persons with autism, try to understand"
http://ariasautism-livingwithautism.blogspot.com/
A trip to Disneyland wouldn't be the only time a parent would take the time to teach the child. We use every single moment in their lives as a teaching moment.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And thats totally understandable. But do u think just letting them cut to the front of the line to avoid a meltdown is gonna help teach them?
Quoting Cubanmom84:
But unfortunately, not everyone is like you, and your right, if you know that putting your child in a situation like that would make them have a breakdown, why do it? but wouldn't you push your child to be the best to help themselves, to help them achieve everything they want? that is what we try to do, simply by putting them in some uncomfortable situations so they can get better, little by little, step by step, we just have to do things differently, thats all.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
I would like to add. I have NEVER looked at another parent like they were bad parents when a child is having a meltdown or a tantrum. Unless i know that person well enough to know they are bad parents and let their kids run their life, i just look at it as something kids do.
Quoting Cubanmom84:
True, I agree, but is it fair that as parents of autistic kids we are looked at as bad parents or abusive parents when our child is having a meltdown in a public place, no, is not, but we deal with it everyday, and everyday we have let our child know that people stare at him because his not normal, life is not fair, we have to deal with that.
Quoting Cubanmom84:No, but after an hour and the opportunity is there to take, and stop making people around you feel uncomfortable, why not take it??
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And thats totally understandable. But do u think just letting them cut to the front of the line to avoid a meltdown is gonna help teach them?
Quoting Cubanmom84:But unfortunately, not everyone is like you, and your right, if you know that putting your child in a situation like that would make them have a breakdown, why do it? but wouldn't you push your child to be the best to help themselves, to help them achieve everything they want? that is what we try to do, simply by putting them in some uncomfortable situations so they can get better, little by little, step by step, we just have to do things differently, thats all.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
I would like to add. I have NEVER looked at another parent like they were bad parents when a child is having a meltdown or a tantrum. Unless i know that person well enough to know they are bad parents and let their kids run their life, i just look at it as something kids do.
Quoting Cubanmom84:True, I agree, but is it fair that as parents of autistic kids we are looked at as bad parents or abusive parents when our child is having a meltdown in a public place, no, is not, but we deal with it everyday, and everyday we have let our child know that people stare at him because his not normal, life is not fair, we have to deal with that.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And i agree. All kids should be treated equally. Whether they are mentally or physically disabled or mentally or physically advanced. Meaning a child cutting in line and possibly causing the other kids to miss out on a ride would be unfair, right?
Quoting Cubanmom84:Your right, its life, and the reality is that there are kids with severe autism that are brought out of their house so they can mingle with other kids because it helps them, social interaction is good for them so they can learn how to behave in society, and a meltdown is to be expected because it is part of the process.... and most don't understand this.... yes logically is not a good idea to take them to such a crowded place, but we do sometimes because we want to try to see if they can handle the experience once in a while.... is not something you do every day, but we do have the right to take them any where.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
Logically them parents cant expect others to treat their child special because of THEIR hope. It sucks. I cant say i know because i dont, but i could imagine how bad it sucks. Most parents have hopes for their kids austistic or not. I would like my 2 year old to get to go to the moves with his dad and older brother. He has a right to be there. But i know he wouldnt be able to sit there without being a disturbance so i dont let him go. And i dont enjoy hearing him scream and cry because daddy left him behind. But it not fair for my older son to not get to do things cause his brother cant. Its life
Quoting Cubanmom84:Obviously your a professional so you will see it from a logical point of view, but we are parents, emotionally involved with the child on a daily basis. I know what your saying, I don't take my child to amusement parks nor water parks nor anywhere with lots of noises nor lots of people because I KNOW what it will triger, but some parents still hold hope, and you can't take that away with a logical explanation.
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
Not necessarily. If children have limits, they have limits. If they are disabled, they are disabled. Many children would love to leave a hospital bed and just sit outside for one day....that never happens. Some children wish they could walk, sadly that will never happen. Some children wish they could see, hear, etc.....and it never happens. Again, there is nothing wrong if you are utilizing environments that are triggers for a lesson, but to receive a hop to the front of the line in hopes it doesn't give them a meltdown is not logical. As a parent with an autistic child I would assume your child is receiving CBT so this is something you should mention to your therapist and see what he/she states. I can almost certainly guarantee they will agree with me.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I totally agree, I avoid crowded places or places with loud noises because my son does get over excited and one thing goes to another, but you never really know when they might have a meltdown tho, you might see one coming but it doesn't happen every day. And don't they deserve to see the same things as other children, or try at least to give them a great experience as parents? I know they have limitations, but if you try it and he does well and he has fun? but what if they don't? you never really know, so your going to keep them away from others all his life, wouldn't you think that is a miserable existence??
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
It's hard to understand why a parent of a child with autism, and a child that can't deal with certain environments, would take him to a place as such. My youngest son has heart issues so he can't ride certain rides even with an adult....guess what....we don't even make those an option because they are not an option. Why would a parent take a child to a place that will cause him undo stress and a meltdown? If the child is not receiving CBT, then the parent is at fault for the situation. As a therapist myself, I will never understand why a parent does this to their child when there is absolutely no.need. Surly it would be different if the situation was a learning field trip, but that is not the topic we are discussing.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I am extremely shocked right now... because I thought that people were more aware ... but they are not. And I am trying to explain something that in my head is normal, is what I live with everyday, and I can't understand why other's don't even consider another possibility?? its really strange to me, then again is normal to me. Once my son starts a meltdown, no matter where I am, he hits the floor and I have to sit next to him and try to calmly get through him before it gets a lots worse, but once that child is screaming you know that they are not listening to a word your saying...
Quoting LadyCat97:
It's just sad with all the information available these days people are still awful. I also don't think most of the people commenting have ever been around a child with low functioning autism. I think they are all envisioning a child that is in mainstreamed classes and can function like most NT kids but just has a few if the autism traits. My dd is the same as your child. Once the meltdown starts the day is over. My dd has scratched and bloodied her face and she butes herself and when I stop her I get the same.
Quoting Cubanmom84:Yeah I know what you mean, I rarely take mine anywhere, even the park is annoying because people look at you like your killing your child, people have come up to me and asked me what was wrong with my child just in case I was doing something to him.... sometimes I feel like people expect us to lock them up like wild animals...
Quoting LadyCat97:
I'd say it depends on the severity. I have a dd with low functioning autism. She has sensory issues that cause her major meltdowns in most public settings so waiting in long lines is just torture. If a child is high functioning and is able to be mainstreamed full time at school than I don't believe they would need the pass.
I did want to add that I rarely take this dd to public places like this for the reasons on here. When she does have meltdowns people can be so judgmental unforgiving. We were planning to take our older girls to Wizarding World of Harry Potter in April when we went to Florida but we decided against it because even with autism awareness on the rise people still don't understand that it's usually out of both the parents and child's hands when meltdowns start.
Ah just like your not one of those parents that give us dirty looks, no, some parents might make them stay put and make everyone around them feel extremely uncomfortable and make their own kids go into a full blown panic attack, and other parents might not even be on the line they will be inside already because they knew that staying in the line would resolve in a meltdown, it depends on the person really.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
But do you really believe that all parents of autistic children are as considerate as you are and would only use it if necessary?
Quoting Cubanmom84:No, but after an hour and the opportunity is there to take, and stop making people around you feel uncomfortable, why not take it??
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And thats totally understandable. But do u think just letting them cut to the front of the line to avoid a meltdown is gonna help teach them?
Quoting Cubanmom84:But unfortunately, not everyone is like you, and your right, if you know that putting your child in a situation like that would make them have a breakdown, why do it? but wouldn't you push your child to be the best to help themselves, to help them achieve everything they want? that is what we try to do, simply by putting them in some uncomfortable situations so they can get better, little by little, step by step, we just have to do things differently, thats all.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
I would like to add. I have NEVER looked at another parent like they were bad parents when a child is having a meltdown or a tantrum. Unless i know that person well enough to know they are bad parents and let their kids run their life, i just look at it as something kids do.
Quoting Cubanmom84:True, I agree, but is it fair that as parents of autistic kids we are looked at as bad parents or abusive parents when our child is having a meltdown in a public place, no, is not, but we deal with it everyday, and everyday we have let our child know that people stare at him because his not normal, life is not fair, we have to deal with that.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And i agree. All kids should be treated equally. Whether they are mentally or physically disabled or mentally or physically advanced. Meaning a child cutting in line and possibly causing the other kids to miss out on a ride would be unfair, right?
Quoting Cubanmom84:Your right, its life, and the reality is that there are kids with severe autism that are brought out of their house so they can mingle with other kids because it helps them, social interaction is good for them so they can learn how to behave in society, and a meltdown is to be expected because it is part of the process.... and most don't understand this.... yes logically is not a good idea to take them to such a crowded place, but we do sometimes because we want to try to see if they can handle the experience once in a while.... is not something you do every day, but we do have the right to take them any where.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
Logically them parents cant expect others to treat their child special because of THEIR hope. It sucks. I cant say i know because i dont, but i could imagine how bad it sucks. Most parents have hopes for their kids austistic or not. I would like my 2 year old to get to go to the moves with his dad and older brother. He has a right to be there. But i know he wouldnt be able to sit there without being a disturbance so i dont let him go. And i dont enjoy hearing him scream and cry because daddy left him behind. But it not fair for my older son to not get to do things cause his brother cant. Its life
Quoting Cubanmom84:Obviously your a professional so you will see it from a logical point of view, but we are parents, emotionally involved with the child on a daily basis. I know what your saying, I don't take my child to amusement parks nor water parks nor anywhere with lots of noises nor lots of people because I KNOW what it will triger, but some parents still hold hope, and you can't take that away with a logical explanation.
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
Not necessarily. If children have limits, they have limits. If they are disabled, they are disabled. Many children would love to leave a hospital bed and just sit outside for one day....that never happens. Some children wish they could walk, sadly that will never happen. Some children wish they could see, hear, etc.....and it never happens. Again, there is nothing wrong if you are utilizing environments that are triggers for a lesson, but to receive a hop to the front of the line in hopes it doesn't give them a meltdown is not logical. As a parent with an autistic child I would assume your child is receiving CBT so this is something you should mention to your therapist and see what he/she states. I can almost certainly guarantee they will agree with me.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I totally agree, I avoid crowded places or places with loud noises because my son does get over excited and one thing goes to another, but you never really know when they might have a meltdown tho, you might see one coming but it doesn't happen every day. And don't they deserve to see the same things as other children, or try at least to give them a great experience as parents? I know they have limitations, but if you try it and he does well and he has fun? but what if they don't? you never really know, so your going to keep them away from others all his life, wouldn't you think that is a miserable existence??
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
It's hard to understand why a parent of a child with autism, and a child that can't deal with certain environments, would take him to a place as such. My youngest son has heart issues so he can't ride certain rides even with an adult....guess what....we don't even make those an option because they are not an option. Why would a parent take a child to a place that will cause him undo stress and a meltdown? If the child is not receiving CBT, then the parent is at fault for the situation. As a therapist myself, I will never understand why a parent does this to their child when there is absolutely no.need. Surly it would be different if the situation was a learning field trip, but that is not the topic we are discussing.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I am extremely shocked right now... because I thought that people were more aware ... but they are not. And I am trying to explain something that in my head is normal, is what I live with everyday, and I can't understand why other's don't even consider another possibility?? its really strange to me, then again is normal to me. Once my son starts a meltdown, no matter where I am, he hits the floor and I have to sit next to him and try to calmly get through him before it gets a lots worse, but once that child is screaming you know that they are not listening to a word your saying...
Quoting LadyCat97:
It's just sad with all the information available these days people are still awful. I also don't think most of the people commenting have ever been around a child with low functioning autism. I think they are all envisioning a child that is in mainstreamed classes and can function like most NT kids but just has a few if the autism traits. My dd is the same as your child. Once the meltdown starts the day is over. My dd has scratched and bloodied her face and she butes herself and when I stop her I get the same.
Quoting Cubanmom84:Yeah I know what you mean, I rarely take mine anywhere, even the park is annoying because people look at you like your killing your child, people have come up to me and asked me what was wrong with my child just in case I was doing something to him.... sometimes I feel like people expect us to lock them up like wild animals...
Quoting LadyCat97:
I'd say it depends on the severity. I have a dd with low functioning autism. She has sensory issues that cause her major meltdowns in most public settings so waiting in long lines is just torture. If a child is high functioning and is able to be mainstreamed full time at school than I don't believe they would need the pass.
I did want to add that I rarely take this dd to public places like this for the reasons on here. When she does have meltdowns people can be so judgmental unforgiving. We were planning to take our older girls to Wizarding World of Harry Potter in April when we went to Florida but we decided against it because even with autism awareness on the rise people still don't understand that it's usually out of both the parents and child's hands when meltdowns start.
"Don't underestimate persons with autism, try to understand"
http://ariasautism-livingwithautism.blogspot.com/
No. It wouldn't be fair to any other child, or adult, at that amusement park. I understand the child has special needs, but special needs doesn't mean special treatment to make him or her better than others. Special needs means special treatment in order to help that person thrive in a society that is not tuned to them.
Quoting Cubanmom84:Ah just like your not one of those parents that give us dirty looks, no, some parents might make them stay put and make everyone around them feel extremely uncomfortable and make their own kids go into a full blown panic attack, and other parents might not even be on the line they will be inside already because they knew that staying in the line would resolve in a meltdown, it depends on the person really.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
But do you really believe that all parents of autistic children are as considerate as you are and would only use it if necessary?
Quoting Cubanmom84:No, but after an hour and the opportunity is there to take, and stop making people around you feel uncomfortable, why not take it??
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And thats totally understandable. But do u think just letting them cut to the front of the line to avoid a meltdown is gonna help teach them?
Quoting Cubanmom84:But unfortunately, not everyone is like you, and your right, if you know that putting your child in a situation like that would make them have a breakdown, why do it? but wouldn't you push your child to be the best to help themselves, to help them achieve everything they want? that is what we try to do, simply by putting them in some uncomfortable situations so they can get better, little by little, step by step, we just have to do things differently, thats all.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
I would like to add. I have NEVER looked at another parent like they were bad parents when a child is having a meltdown or a tantrum. Unless i know that person well enough to know they are bad parents and let their kids run their life, i just look at it as something kids do.
Quoting Cubanmom84:True, I agree, but is it fair that as parents of autistic kids we are looked at as bad parents or abusive parents when our child is having a meltdown in a public place, no, is not, but we deal with it everyday, and everyday we have let our child know that people stare at him because his not normal, life is not fair, we have to deal with that.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And i agree. All kids should be treated equally. Whether they are mentally or physically disabled or mentally or physically advanced. Meaning a child cutting in line and possibly causing the other kids to miss out on a ride would be unfair, right?
Quoting Cubanmom84:Your right, its life, and the reality is that there are kids with severe autism that are brought out of their house so they can mingle with other kids because it helps them, social interaction is good for them so they can learn how to behave in society, and a meltdown is to be expected because it is part of the process.... and most don't understand this.... yes logically is not a good idea to take them to such a crowded place, but we do sometimes because we want to try to see if they can handle the experience once in a while.... is not something you do every day, but we do have the right to take them any where.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
Logically them parents cant expect others to treat their child special because of THEIR hope. It sucks. I cant say i know because i dont, but i could imagine how bad it sucks. Most parents have hopes for their kids austistic or not. I would like my 2 year old to get to go to the moves with his dad and older brother. He has a right to be there. But i know he wouldnt be able to sit there without being a disturbance so i dont let him go. And i dont enjoy hearing him scream and cry because daddy left him behind. But it not fair for my older son to not get to do things cause his brother cant. Its life
Quoting Cubanmom84:Obviously your a professional so you will see it from a logical point of view, but we are parents, emotionally involved with the child on a daily basis. I know what your saying, I don't take my child to amusement parks nor water parks nor anywhere with lots of noises nor lots of people because I KNOW what it will triger, but some parents still hold hope, and you can't take that away with a logical explanation.
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
Not necessarily. If children have limits, they have limits. If they are disabled, they are disabled. Many children would love to leave a hospital bed and just sit outside for one day....that never happens. Some children wish they could walk, sadly that will never happen. Some children wish they could see, hear, etc.....and it never happens. Again, there is nothing wrong if you are utilizing environments that are triggers for a lesson, but to receive a hop to the front of the line in hopes it doesn't give them a meltdown is not logical. As a parent with an autistic child I would assume your child is receiving CBT so this is something you should mention to your therapist and see what he/she states. I can almost certainly guarantee they will agree with me.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I totally agree, I avoid crowded places or places with loud noises because my son does get over excited and one thing goes to another, but you never really know when they might have a meltdown tho, you might see one coming but it doesn't happen every day. And don't they deserve to see the same things as other children, or try at least to give them a great experience as parents? I know they have limitations, but if you try it and he does well and he has fun? but what if they don't? you never really know, so your going to keep them away from others all his life, wouldn't you think that is a miserable existence??
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
It's hard to understand why a parent of a child with autism, and a child that can't deal with certain environments, would take him to a place as such. My youngest son has heart issues so he can't ride certain rides even with an adult....guess what....we don't even make those an option because they are not an option. Why would a parent take a child to a place that will cause him undo stress and a meltdown? If the child is not receiving CBT, then the parent is at fault for the situation. As a therapist myself, I will never understand why a parent does this to their child when there is absolutely no.need. Surly it would be different if the situation was a learning field trip, but that is not the topic we are discussing.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I am extremely shocked right now... because I thought that people were more aware ... but they are not. And I am trying to explain something that in my head is normal, is what I live with everyday, and I can't understand why other's don't even consider another possibility?? its really strange to me, then again is normal to me. Once my son starts a meltdown, no matter where I am, he hits the floor and I have to sit next to him and try to calmly get through him before it gets a lots worse, but once that child is screaming you know that they are not listening to a word your saying...
Quoting LadyCat97:
It's just sad with all the information available these days people are still awful. I also don't think most of the people commenting have ever been around a child with low functioning autism. I think they are all envisioning a child that is in mainstreamed classes and can function like most NT kids but just has a few if the autism traits. My dd is the same as your child. Once the meltdown starts the day is over. My dd has scratched and bloodied her face and she butes herself and when I stop her I get the same.
Quoting Cubanmom84:Yeah I know what you mean, I rarely take mine anywhere, even the park is annoying because people look at you like your killing your child, people have come up to me and asked me what was wrong with my child just in case I was doing something to him.... sometimes I feel like people expect us to lock them up like wild animals...
Quoting LadyCat97:
I'd say it depends on the severity. I have a dd with low functioning autism. She has sensory issues that cause her major meltdowns in most public settings so waiting in long lines is just torture. If a child is high functioning and is able to be mainstreamed full time at school than I don't believe they would need the pass.
I did want to add that I rarely take this dd to public places like this for the reasons on here. When she does have meltdowns people can be so judgmental unforgiving. We were planning to take our older girls to Wizarding World of Harry Potter in April when we went to Florida but we decided against it because even with autism awareness on the rise people still don't understand that it's usually out of both the parents and child's hands when meltdowns start.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
You know as well as i do that there are parents who will get that pass and be running to the front of that line as soon as they get there just because they have a pass that says they can.
Quoting Cubanmom84:Ah just like your not one of those parents that give us dirty looks, no, some parents might make them stay put and make everyone around them feel extremely uncomfortable and make their own kids go into a full blown panic attack, and other parents might not even be on the line they will be inside already because they knew that staying in the line would resolve in a meltdown, it depends on the person really.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
But do you really believe that all parents of autistic children are as considerate as you are and would only use it if necessary?
Quoting Cubanmom84:No, but after an hour and the opportunity is there to take, and stop making people around you feel uncomfortable, why not take it??
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And thats totally understandable. But do u think just letting them cut to the front of the line to avoid a meltdown is gonna help teach them?
Quoting Cubanmom84:But unfortunately, not everyone is like you, and your right, if you know that putting your child in a situation like that would make them have a breakdown, why do it? but wouldn't you push your child to be the best to help themselves, to help them achieve everything they want? that is what we try to do, simply by putting them in some uncomfortable situations so they can get better, little by little, step by step, we just have to do things differently, thats all.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
I would like to add. I have NEVER looked at another parent like they were bad parents when a child is having a meltdown or a tantrum. Unless i know that person well enough to know they are bad parents and let their kids run their life, i just look at it as something kids do.
Quoting Cubanmom84:True, I agree, but is it fair that as parents of autistic kids we are looked at as bad parents or abusive parents when our child is having a meltdown in a public place, no, is not, but we deal with it everyday, and everyday we have let our child know that people stare at him because his not normal, life is not fair, we have to deal with that.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
And i agree. All kids should be treated equally. Whether they are mentally or physically disabled or mentally or physically advanced. Meaning a child cutting in line and possibly causing the other kids to miss out on a ride would be unfair, right?
Quoting Cubanmom84:Your right, its life, and the reality is that there are kids with severe autism that are brought out of their house so they can mingle with other kids because it helps them, social interaction is good for them so they can learn how to behave in society, and a meltdown is to be expected because it is part of the process.... and most don't understand this.... yes logically is not a good idea to take them to such a crowded place, but we do sometimes because we want to try to see if they can handle the experience once in a while.... is not something you do every day, but we do have the right to take them any where.
Quoting Rylansmommy386:
Logically them parents cant expect others to treat their child special because of THEIR hope. It sucks. I cant say i know because i dont, but i could imagine how bad it sucks. Most parents have hopes for their kids austistic or not. I would like my 2 year old to get to go to the moves with his dad and older brother. He has a right to be there. But i know he wouldnt be able to sit there without being a disturbance so i dont let him go. And i dont enjoy hearing him scream and cry because daddy left him behind. But it not fair for my older son to not get to do things cause his brother cant. Its life
Quoting Cubanmom84:Obviously your a professional so you will see it from a logical point of view, but we are parents, emotionally involved with the child on a daily basis. I know what your saying, I don't take my child to amusement parks nor water parks nor anywhere with lots of noises nor lots of people because I KNOW what it will triger, but some parents still hold hope, and you can't take that away with a logical explanation.
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
Not necessarily. If children have limits, they have limits. If they are disabled, they are disabled. Many children would love to leave a hospital bed and just sit outside for one day....that never happens. Some children wish they could walk, sadly that will never happen. Some children wish they could see, hear, etc.....and it never happens. Again, there is nothing wrong if you are utilizing environments that are triggers for a lesson, but to receive a hop to the front of the line in hopes it doesn't give them a meltdown is not logical. As a parent with an autistic child I would assume your child is receiving CBT so this is something you should mention to your therapist and see what he/she states. I can almost certainly guarantee they will agree with me.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I totally agree, I avoid crowded places or places with loud noises because my son does get over excited and one thing goes to another, but you never really know when they might have a meltdown tho, you might see one coming but it doesn't happen every day. And don't they deserve to see the same things as other children, or try at least to give them a great experience as parents? I know they have limitations, but if you try it and he does well and he has fun? but what if they don't? you never really know, so your going to keep them away from others all his life, wouldn't you think that is a miserable existence??
Quoting NutHouseMomma:
It's hard to understand why a parent of a child with autism, and a child that can't deal with certain environments, would take him to a place as such. My youngest son has heart issues so he can't ride certain rides even with an adult....guess what....we don't even make those an option because they are not an option. Why would a parent take a child to a place that will cause him undo stress and a meltdown? If the child is not receiving CBT, then the parent is at fault for the situation. As a therapist myself, I will never understand why a parent does this to their child when there is absolutely no.need. Surly it would be different if the situation was a learning field trip, but that is not the topic we are discussing.
Quoting Cubanmom84:I am extremely shocked right now... because I thought that people were more aware ... but they are not. And I am trying to explain something that in my head is normal, is what I live with everyday, and I can't understand why other's don't even consider another possibility?? its really strange to me, then again is normal to me. Once my son starts a meltdown, no matter where I am, he hits the floor and I have to sit next to him and try to calmly get through him before it gets a lots worse, but once that child is screaming you know that they are not listening to a word your saying...
Quoting LadyCat97:
It's just sad with all the information available these days people are still awful. I also don't think most of the people commenting have ever been around a child with low functioning autism. I think they are all envisioning a child that is in mainstreamed classes and can function like most NT kids but just has a few if the autism traits. My dd is the same as your child. Once the meltdown starts the day is over. My dd has scratched and bloodied her face and she butes herself and when I stop her I get the same.
Quoting Cubanmom84:Yeah I know what you mean, I rarely take mine anywhere, even the park is annoying because people look at you like your killing your child, people have come up to me and asked me what was wrong with my child just in case I was doing something to him.... sometimes I feel like people expect us to lock them up like wild animals...
Quoting LadyCat97:
I'd say it depends on the severity. I have a dd with low functioning autism. She has sensory issues that cause her major meltdowns in most public settings so waiting in long lines is just torture. If a child is high functioning and is able to be mainstreamed full time at school than I don't believe they would need the pass.
I did want to add that I rarely take this dd to public places like this for the reasons on here. When she does have meltdowns people can be so judgmental unforgiving. We were planning to take our older girls to Wizarding World of Harry Potter in April when we went to Florida but we decided against it because even with autism awareness on the rise people still don't understand that it's usually out of both the parents and child's hands when meltdowns start.
How can I take three children to the store by myself? I have never done this but my husband says he won't go anymore.
need your vote ASAP **PIOG**
- cdi
on Jun. 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM