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"Redshirting" kindergarten

Posted by on Aug. 17, 2012 at 10:19 AM
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what's your take on it. do you plan on doing it? 

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/default.aspx

Had my son not been set up with an IEP for is delays I would definitely consider doing this. In fact I still might consider it. I really don't think he will be ready for kindergarten. Will you delay kindergarten for your child? Do you think your child is prepared to go into kindergarten?

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3lilmonsters88
by ★amber★ on Aug. 17, 2012 at 2:27 PM
My son has an iep. He starts kindergarten on the 27th and he's 5. I know he's not ready but since he aged out prek and will lose services if I don't send him to kindergarten. He's going to be in a special education classroom though. Ive made the decision that if he doesn't progress much in the next year I will hold him back in kindergarten again just to give him more time.
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mommytoeandb
by Gold Member on Aug. 17, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Nope. Mine have September & June birthdays and went on time. Our cut-off is 9/30. DD has ADHD and is gifted. She's going into 4th grade. If we had waited, she would be so bored. I worried about causing behavior problems due to boredom. Kids typically level out.
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momtoBrenna
by Silver Member on Aug. 17, 2012 at 2:42 PM
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Quoting mommytoeandb:Nope. Mine have September & June birthdays and went on time. Our cut-off is 9/30. DD has ADHD and is gifted. She's going into 4th grade. If we had waited, she would be so bored. I worried about causing behavior problems due to boredom. Kids typically level out.


Above average high achieving and "hot housed" kids level out, appropriately challenged and served truly gifted kids should not level out. Underserved and unchallenged gifted kids and girls especially will underachieve and or dumb down to fit in or because they are bored and see no point in trying.
Mom2Just1
by Silver Member on Aug. 17, 2012 at 3:50 PM

My son started K at 5 years, 3 months.  He had attended preschool 3 years.  We just started 1st grade and never regretted our decision.  I don't agree with red shirting.

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inspain
by Ruby Member on Aug. 17, 2012 at 3:54 PM

I think it's silly, pointless and, actually, a kind of cheating.  

But, hey, I don't see the point in kindergarten unless you need it for child care.

lmjess
by Bronze Member on Aug. 17, 2012 at 4:00 PM

 I don't agree with red-shirting. My son's birthday is July 17th. He just turned 9 yrs old and started 4th grade. He is always the youngest in his class. But, he's also the smartest! He's been in the gifted program since 1st grade.

Holding a child back really messes with the class dynamic. Not only is a child physically bigger & older; but, they also are more 'mature'. My son picked up a lot of bad words and ideas from 'older' children in his classroom. Who really wants their 5 yr old in a classroom with someone turning 7? Think about puberty striking...

Furthermore, my husband's birthday is in October. He wasn't allowed to start school until he ws almost 6. He wasn't held back; but, everyone made fun of him and said he was because he was bigger and 'older'. They called him dumb and stupid. It really affected him & he doesn't ever want his children to suffer like he did.

RhondaVeggie
by on Aug. 17, 2012 at 4:04 PM
I hate it. Keeping your kid out of school to try and give them an advantage over kids who started af the right time is messed up. When I worked in a kindergarten we had kids from age four to seven. Who keeps their kid out till they're seven?
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christina0607
by Emerald Member on Aug. 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Actually typically hey are neither more mature or bigger. Most people who red shirt do so with a child who's birthday falls 1-2 months before the cut off. For example if the cut off were september 1st and a child born august 1st was red shirted...how exactly is that child any more mature than the child born on September 15th? It's 46 days.

Respectfully it typically works the other way around. That child who was born on August 1st would then go to school with kids that could be a year older than them. That full year is huge.

Either way you look at it that child born in August is in the middle. It should be..and well it actually is, up to the parent to decide when to send their child.

Quoting lmjess:

 I don't agree with red-shirting. My son's birthday is July 17th. He just turned 9 yrs old and started 4th grade. He is always the youngest in his class. But, he's also the smartest! He's been in the gifted program since 1st grade.

Holding a child back really messes with the class dynamic. Not only is a child physically bigger & older; but, they also are more 'mature'. My son picked up a lot of bad words and ideas from 'older' children in his classroom. Who really wants their 5 yr old in a classroom with someone turning 7? Think about puberty striking...

Furthermore, my husband's birthday is in October. He wasn't allowed to start school until he ws almost 6. He wasn't held back; but, everyone made fun of him and said he was because he was bigger and 'older'. They called him dumb and stupid. It really affected him & he doesn't ever want his children to suffer like he did.


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ladybuglove08
by Silver Member on Aug. 17, 2012 at 4:10 PM
This is my ds too, except he started kindergarten this week. He is 5, His bday is in nov (cutoff is oct 31) he is a whole head taller than everyone in his class

Quoting BEXi:

My oldest son starts Kindergarten next year and he is more than ready. He will be turning 6 the November after starting.]


He would be going to Kindergarten this year, but his birthday is past the cut off date.

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spunky946
by Platinum Member on Aug. 17, 2012 at 4:29 PM
My ds's birthday is June and we held him back. He was not ready emotionally/socially. He is now in second grade and is the oldest in his class. A couple of his good friends are a year younger then he is and you would never know the difference.

Quoting danandsamsmom:



Quoting blessedwith:


I would never tell a parent what to do, but I don't like red shirting.


There is ALWAYS a tendancy to teach to the older kids in a class.  I've seen it in pre-school, in Sunday School, ect...any place there is a range of kids.  If many kids in a class are six, then the 5 year old that wasn't red shirted, is automatically a bit behind.


So far in the posts I've been seeing kids who were over the cut off.  That isn't red shirting.  Red Shirting is when a student who is able to go to school, based on the school criteria, but don't.  Example, if your kid's birthday is in April, or June, and you don't enroll them in school when they are 5, but wait until they are 6.....I don't think that is good for the class as a whole.


We did hold my son back.  His birthday is in July and the cutoff date is September 30th.  He did pre-k twice and didn't start kindergarten until after he turned six.


Are you a teacher by any chance? I understand your concern about it not being good for the class as a whole, but my primary concern is my son...not the class as a whole.  My son just started 3rd grade and I am confident that I made the right choice for him.

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