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so over the ridiculous BF debate

Posted by on Aug. 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM
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We all know that scientifically BF is best.  I recognize that to be a proven fact...HOWEVER that does not give anyone the right to look down on another mother for what she chooses for her child.  The holier than thou attitude that some (didn't say all) moms have towards this topic is just ridiculous.  It is every individual's right to choose what is best for them and their child for whatever reason may it be.  It does not in any way shape or form make one mother better than another and those who think it does need to step off the soapbox.  I did not BF.  It wasn't an option for me for reasons I don't need to justify to anyone. My children are still happy, healthy and thriving regardless.  My SIL gave me so much shit with both of my kids for not BF and the irony of it is that the same person who told me my kids would be malnourished, stupid, and overweight (my kids are fab thanks!) for bottlefeeding...feeds her BF kids poptarts, hotdogs, french fries, and junkfood.  I'm pretty sure if you asked a Dr whose kids are actually healthier at this point in their life, and likely to be so as adults...it wouldnt be hers.  So basically my point is that i thought CM was supposed to be a place to share not to point finger through a computer scream.  If i write a post that i beat me kids you can call me a bad mom go for it, but as much as some of you would like to beleive so bottlefeeding is not an equivilent offense.  We ALL do our best as parents, or at leats I would hope so, and it's really no ones place to throw insults.  Its one thing to disagree and state ones opinion in an educated manner...it's another to throw insults, sling names, and act like trash.

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AmiJanell
by Silver Member on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:06 PM
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If you are over the debate..... then why make a whole post about it?! (to stir up another debate!!)

But you cannot say in one sentence that breastfeeding is best.... and then turn around and say that a parent gets to choose what is best for her child.  If breastmilk is best... it's BEST... period.... it's not really a choice on what is BEST, it's a choice for other reasons... maybe it's easier, maybe it's medically necessary...  but no matter the reason, it doesn't make formula rise up from being second.. it's still not BEST.

That said... I combo fed my son... he had breastmilk and formula because I didn't produce enough...  I didn't pretend that he formula I was giving him was equal to that of the breastmlik... it was second rate. 

We all make choices for our families... some are healthier than others... but why lie to ourselves about those choices and pretend they are equally healthy as other choices when we know it's not true? To make ourselves feel better?  It's not any different than comparing a home cooked organic meal to a meal at McDonalds... there is no question on which meal is better... but I still choose to let my son eat happy meals, I'm not going to pretend his meal was nutritious.  Does that make me a bad mom? To some, for sure! But it doesn't matter what they think.

Anyway, my point is... just admit that formula is second best and move on... who cares what other people think of it.

081499
by Member on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:11 PM
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Obviously, from looking at my pic, you can tell I'm all about breastfeeding.  ;)

Just wanted to say I've never looked down on women who choose not to breastfeed.  BUT, I have talked to pregnant women and women who were adopting babies about the benefits of breastfeeding.  There's just so much wrong information out there, and so many women DON'T know how to have a good breastfeeding relationship with their little one...if I have the right info and Mom wants to listen, we have a conversation.  

Sometimes, I wish women wouldn't get so defensive just because they're given information that contradicts what they believe to be true.  

ChloeDolce1
by Member on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:15 PM

I am not disagreeing with anything you say here at all.  I am fully aware what is "best"  I am more so directing it to woman who feel the need to "bash" others for it.  People can have different opinions on matters and agree to disagree.  Its when it gets to name calling and insults, and the "bad mom" card that I found outrageous.  And then its just a laugh when moms such as that that spend so much time badmouthing those who don't bf saying they dont care about their kids, their lazy, ect ect....well coudlnt the same be said for BF moms who feed their kids garbage for the rest of their life? What good is the fact you gave your child the best as an infant then load them with crap throughout the rest of their childhood...kind of puts the good you did early on to shit.  I have VERY strong feelings on health and nutrition and that's greatly reflected in the way my kids eat....its the best I can do by them and i hope what I am teaching them they can take in to their adults lives.  I could just as easily say someone who feeds their child garbage is a "bad mom" "lazy" ect...but I would NEVER because again everyone makes choices for their own family and its not anyone elses place to judge it.  You may disagree with it but you dont have to be nasty about it. That is more so my point.  Not so much on whats really better because your right we all know the answer to that

Quoting AmiJanell:

If you are over the debate..... then why make a whole post about it?! (to stir up another debate!!)

But you cannot say in one sentence that breastfeeding is best.... and then turn around and say that a parent gets to choose what is best for her child.  If breastmilk is best... it's BEST... period.... it's not really a choice on what is BEST, it's a choice for other reasons... maybe it's easier, maybe it's medically necessary...  but no matter the reason, it doesn't make formula rise up from being second.. it's still not BEST.

That said... I combo fed my son... he had breastmilk and formula because I didn't produce enough...  I didn't pretend that he formula I was giving him was equal to that of the breastmlik... it was second rate. 

We all make choices for our families... some are healthier than others... but why lie to ourselves about those choices and pretend they are equally healthy as other choices when we know it's not true? To make ourselves feel better?  It's not any different than comparing a home cooked organic meal to a meal at McDonalds... there is no question on which meal is better... but I still choose to let my son eat happy meals, I'm not going to pretend his meal was nutritious.  Does that make me a bad mom? To some, for sure! But it doesn't matter what they think.

Anyway, my point is... just admit that formula is second best and move on... who cares what other people think of it.


coolmommy2x
by Ruby Member on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:19 PM
This will get bashed but I don't believe breast is best. I know people who ebf'd and their kids have all kinds of allergies and get sick often. DD was ff'd (I didn't produce any milk and wasn't into bfing). He's now 12 and has never had an ear infection and only had one sick visit in his life. DD was slightly bf'd (I produced a little bit of milk) and it was supplemented with formula. She had several back to back ear infections and an upper respiratory infection all within a 4 month period as a toddler. While she rarely gets sick, she seem to catch colds easily. Could be a coincidence but I will never believe otherwise. For those who do, great, I'm glad it works for you and your baby is fed.
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inspain
by Ruby Member on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:19 PM
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LOL.  I never give a shit what anyone else does with their kids.  I think breast is best, but if you're going to bottle-feed, that's your business, I don't care why you're doing it either.  If I already don't like you, I will most likely judge you harshly for your choice, in my head, to myself, while horking down a Taco Bell gordita and enjoying the look of horror on my breast fed kid's face (she thinks junk food is filthy, I didn't do that, I swear).  But, if I like you, I don't care what you feed them.  It's none of my business.

Now, if only I could find more formula feeding moms and even more bf-ing moms who would butt the Hell out and shut their silly mouths when it comes to commenting on how or where breast-feeding women choose to feed their kids.  ;-)

LntLckrsCmQut
by Platinum Member on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:21 PM
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So over it, yet choose to make another post about it? lmao

StoneColdKiller
by Killer on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM
Good post. Yes breast milk is best, but doesn't make formula horrible.

I would of loved to have breast feed my son, god knows I knew all the benefits but couldn't and my mil told me "she formula feed all her babies and they came out alright " lol I smiled and knew she was right, after all I think her son is pretty awesome.
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ChloeDolce1
by Member on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

I think its great that you educate others because you are right.  I think there is alot of misinformation and it's great to have someone educated on a topic to help answer questions.  I don't feel i get defensive because of information I have been given....I get defensive when some random woman or even my sil for that matter tried to basically scold me for not BFing.  Or when I see names being called, or telling you well you know statsics say this and that and you are lazy or depriving your kids.  Like I said the the previous poster.  I'm aware of facts and that BF is by far without a doubt "the Best" option.  I don't argue that.  But if it's not an option who's place is it for another mother to get so nasty about it? Thats is more my frustration here.  I dont act as though formula is the same I know its not but now that my kids eat regular food I do all I can to provide them with a healthy balanced diet...and to be honest (and not at all bragging) I feel i work harder at it then alot of other moms I know.  I'm nto saying it makes me better by any means nutrition is just a huge part of our family's lifestyle.  So who is so judge one's parenting skills on one thing?

Quoting 081499:

Obviously, from looking at my pic, you can tell I'm all about breastfeeding.  ;)

Just wanted to say I've never looked down on women who choose not to breastfeed.  BUT, I have talked to pregnant women and women who were adopting babies about the benefits of breastfeeding.  There's just so much wrong information out there, and so many women DON'T know how to have a good breastfeeding relationship with their little one...if I have the right info and Mom wants to listen, we have a conversation.  

Sometimes, I wish women wouldn't get so defensive just because they're given information that contradicts what they believe to be true.  


creationary
by on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:23 PM
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LOL, so you don't believe in scientific facts because you have one healthy FF baby and a not-so-healthy FF baby who had a little breastmilk?


Quoting coolmommy2x:

This will get bashed but I don't believe breast is best. I know people who ebf'd and their kids have all kinds of allergies and get sick often. DD was ff'd (I didn't produce any milk and wasn't into bfing). He's now 12 and has never had an ear infection and only had one sick visit in his life. DD was slightly bf'd (I produced a little bit of milk) and it was supplemented with formula. She had several back to back ear infections and an upper respiratory infection all within a 4 month period as a toddler. While she rarely gets sick, she seem to catch colds easily. Could be a coincidence but I will never believe otherwise. For those who do, great, I'm glad it works for you and your baby is fed.

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Sharell8710
by Puppet on Aug. 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM
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My great grandmother who was born in 1908 told me once that she never bf any of her 7 children because she was just far too busy on the farm. Her baby formula was watered down cows milk with corn starch. Her children grew up very healthy, my grandfather being the oldest, is still healthy. 6 out of the 7 are still living, one passed due to cancer. There is nothing wrong with ff. My 4 kids were all ff too. I definitely think it's just women being catty thinking they're better than the next for any reason available.
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