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Omg look what i found on my son!!!! **update**

Posted by on Sep. 18, 2012 at 3:07 PM
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My son has severe ADHD COMBINED TYPE and ODD. He is currently off his medicines due to problems with the insurance.

He's been suspended twice this month. And sent home early twice.
Yesterday the school called me complaining that he was humming loudly. And they took him to time out. Well brayden freaks out and shuts down when he gets stressed out. I told them this. He is in first grade, they dealt with all this last year.
Well yesterday.he shut.down and wouldn't leave the desk in the office so they asked me to come get him since it was time to loaf the busses. Well today I get a call about 11:30 saying I had to come get him that he was being bad and had slapped his teacher. And that he was being suspended for two additional days.

Well I am home in bed sick with fever so I called my brother to get him. He lives in my neighborhood so he's close. It wasn't 10 minutes and the principal calls me back saying that no one was there yet and brayden was bothering her by rolling around on her floor.

I assured her my brother had been gone several minutes and he should be there very soon. (We live like 10 minutes from the school). Then she said great and hung up.

Well my brother said when he.got there to pick my son up he was laying on the floor but he jumped right up and ran to him.
And the principal pointed at him and said.you get your act together before you come back.

Ok so ...
He laid down and took a nap when he got home. He wakes.up hot and took his shirt off.

That's when I see the hand print on his arm.
I asked him and he said a teacher across the hall did it. He didn't know her name. And my brother said did it happen before or after you hit your teacher? His reply was before.

Uploa

ding pictures now.
Please what do I do?
He's only 6 and I know my husband and I wouldn't do it but I don't know if he really knows
what happened.
I don't want to call the police and make things worse at school for him...



***EDIT***
So I called the principal and talked with her and she put the teacher on the phone. She explained that he wouldn't do his work and put his head in his shirt. So they decided it was time for him to go to the office. He made it halfway to the office walking and then started crying and fell out in the floor so they "restrained" him and drug him to the office.

I told the principal and teacher that.I could understand them needing to restrain him but when he wasn't a danger to anyone else why is it ok to leave marks? I also asked what the principal planned to do about it and she said nothing.
I told her it was unacceptable and she offered to meet with me at 7 am with someone from the district office.

As to the women saying he is a bad kid or problem child. You have no
idea what goes on in his head. You don't have a clue what kind of

struggles he deals with so keep your smart ass high handed comments about my son to yourselves.


***UPDATE***
So went to the school at 7 AM. I was suppose to meet with someone from the district as the principal said.
No one from the district showed up. I was only able to stay 30 minutes but the whole time I was there they told me that they didn't even grab him at his arm pits. They walked him to the office holding his wrists and elbows. Which is a totally different story from what I heard yesterday.
They also told me to do whatever it takes to get him on his.medicine.

I am so frustrated and furious I could just cry for him. I showed them the pictures and they suggested he got the marks else where.

I'm so done with school. I will just be looking into home schooling now.
They pretty much refused to talk about the.marks even though I told them several times that was why I was there.
I'm just done. Done!
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tisami1
by Member on Sep. 20, 2012 at 10:07 PM

The school does not have an option with the IEP. If he has a diagnosis of ODD/ADHD then he qualifies. Period. Now you would have to go through the process of getting one (and that can take weeks, but the school distric has a process). Once that piece of paper is in place the school is REQUIRED to meet his needs. They cant just  make up what they want, like they have been. The IEP is a big deal and I believe crucial to you right now.

I feel that when you get that IEP, then you will have access to all the help he needs. Know why? Because they CANT ignore it, according to the laws :) They have to accomodate him and I would demand it. Different school within the district that has specialized teachers (not special ed, forget that label, things have changed since we were in school), homeschooling with a tutor they provide, an aid with him...Whatever.

Please stop worrying about your child being in "special ed" or being labled a "problem child". The fact is, your child has two diagnosis that requires some help. That sweet caring boy you know that you describe at home? Havent you spent a lot of time figuring out what he needs/helping him cope with things? And I bet you have found things that have worked. Well, that IEP would be filled with things that "work" or help him. And the district (even if he switches schools or whatever) cant ignore it. 

Do not let this school district write off your son. He has a right to an education and they cannot deny him services. If they refuse to start the IEP process tomorrow (cuz you can bet your ass i would be in that damn superindents office when it opens), then tell them you are going to the damn media about it and will find a lawyer. Research IDEA laws. Even if your son doesnt step foot in that school again, hold the DISTRICT accountable.  

Quoting BraydensMama163:

Now this I appreciate.
You can speak to me or type to me like I'm a human being who is dealing with a huge.load here and I would respond better.

I never meant I was giving up on this fight. I meant I was giving up on making.things work with the school. I fully intend to keep at this until something is done.

I am raising hell with Medicaid about his insurance. Yea it was my fault it lapsed but at the time we had medicine still. They told me when I redid his case that it would take about two weeks. That was normal. They have ignored my calls the last two weeks. I have been up there 3 times! I can only push them so far. I also babysit so I have 4 kids with me every day. I'm not always able to go when I please to do everything that needs to be done.
I am however doing my best.
I have cried over this, I have raged, and I have begged. I am doing everything I can. I called the superintendent, she was suppose to call back today. I will call again tomorrow. I will not stop calling until she speaks to me. I have pictures of the marks. I don't want to go to the police because I just don't want that on my son. I don't want him interviewed and stressed out anymore. He has been thru so much with this school already.

I am not stupid. I was unaware of an IEP. Now that I am informed I know better.

I am pulling him from the school in order to give him a better experience with learning. Its a wonder by.now.why.he doesn't have panic attacks every time someone throws pencil and paper at him. I am tired of him being scared and stressed out. And by no means is he a bad kid. He doesn't have behavior problems. He is the sweetest kid I know and he tries to help everyone but he will freak out/shut down/melt down when scared, stressed, embarrassed or confused.


Quoting Christy1919:

digging a hole and throwing your problems in it solves nothing.  If you truly believe your child was harmed you would have called the police.  If you truly believed it was 100% the teachers fault you would have been at the district offices demanding a meeting.  I am NOT JUDGING YOU I HAVE BEEN THERE.  Running home and saying your just going to keep him home may temporarily solve the problem.  If you can wade thru my bluntness I really want the best for your child.  You both have to be exausted.  I know I was.  I am sorry for how the school is failing your child but you HAVE TO GIVE HIM THE PROPER TOOLS.  Imagine goingto a rock concert and asked to take an essay, while juggling monkeys with your left hand, standing on your tippy toes. That is what goes on in their brains.   They see hear and absorb every ounce of what is going on around them and can't filter out anything to function.  I believe the school is not 100 helpful but I also think you need to bend as well.  PM me if you need to talk mother to mother


Quoting BraydensMama163:

will you please just shut up.


I don't need your opinion.
Nor do I want it. Get off my post.



Quoting Christy1919:


Okay I just have to say this.  You're waiting for the super to call you?  IF my kid were harmed in any way the super would have to peel me off the door before he could even walk thru the building.  I think you are doing your child the biggest disservice by not addressing the issue which is in fact his adhd lack of medication.  Imagine what is going thru his head the chaos.  You can only shelter him so long and my guess is since you couldn't even figure out that he DOES qualify for an IEP that you'll fail him in proper education as well.  GET HIM HIS MEDICATION for gods sakes woman its terrible what you are doing to him by not giving him the tools he needs to succeed.



Quoting BraydensMama163:

No. I didn't get the call from the superintendent like I thought I would. I called her early this morning....

I don't think I will send brayden back tomorrow but will on Monday to collect his things.
I have found several good curriculums to follow so I will be working on my letter this weekend and will submit it and withdraw him from the public school system on monday




Quoting Des10ed2b:



any new updates?



 


 


tisami1
by Member on Sep. 20, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Also, you said your state was Mississippi, so I looked up their state department of education website. The parent hotline for special education (again, dont judge by the name lol) is 1-877-544-0408. I am sure if you explained your situation they would be helpful.

Quoting tisami1:

The school does not have an option with the IEP. If he has a diagnosis of ODD/ADHD then he qualifies. Period. Now you would have to go through the process of getting one (and that can take weeks, but the school distric has a process). Once that piece of paper is in place the school is REQUIRED to meet his needs. They cant just  make up what they want, like they have been. The IEP is a big deal and I believe crucial to you right now.

I feel that when you get that IEP, then you will have access to all the help he needs. Know why? Because they CANT ignore it, according to the laws :) They have to accomodate him and I would demand it. Different school within the district that has specialized teachers (not special ed, forget that label, things have changed since we were in school), homeschooling with a tutor they provide, an aid with him...Whatever.

Please stop worrying about your child being in "special ed" or being labled a "problem child". The fact is, your child has two diagnosis that requires some help. That sweet caring boy you know that you describe at home? Havent you spent a lot of time figuring out what he needs/helping him cope with things? And I bet you have found things that have worked. Well, that IEP would be filled with things that "work" or help him. And the district (even if he switches schools or whatever) cant ignore it. 

Do not let this school district write off your son. He has a right to an education and they cannot deny him services. If they refuse to start the IEP process tomorrow (cuz you can bet your ass i would be in that damn superindents office when it opens), then tell them you are going to the damn media about it and will find a lawyer. Research IDEA laws. Even if your son doesnt step foot in that school again, hold the DISTRICT accountable.  

Quoting BraydensMama163:

Now this I appreciate.
You can speak to me or type to me like I'm a human being who is dealing with a huge.load here and I would respond better.

I never meant I was giving up on this fight. I meant I was giving up on making.things work with the school. I fully intend to keep at this until something is done.

I am raising hell with Medicaid about his insurance. Yea it was my fault it lapsed but at the time we had medicine still. They told me when I redid his case that it would take about two weeks. That was normal. They have ignored my calls the last two weeks. I have been up there 3 times! I can only push them so far. I also babysit so I have 4 kids with me every day. I'm not always able to go when I please to do everything that needs to be done.
I am however doing my best.
I have cried over this, I have raged, and I have begged. I am doing everything I can. I called the superintendent, she was suppose to call back today. I will call again tomorrow. I will not stop calling until she speaks to me. I have pictures of the marks. I don't want to go to the police because I just don't want that on my son. I don't want him interviewed and stressed out anymore. He has been thru so much with this school already.

I am not stupid. I was unaware of an IEP. Now that I am informed I know better.

I am pulling him from the school in order to give him a better experience with learning. Its a wonder by.now.why.he doesn't have panic attacks every time someone throws pencil and paper at him. I am tired of him being scared and stressed out. And by no means is he a bad kid. He doesn't have behavior problems. He is the sweetest kid I know and he tries to help everyone but he will freak out/shut down/melt down when scared, stressed, embarrassed or confused.


Quoting Christy1919:

digging a hole and throwing your problems in it solves nothing.  If you truly believe your child was harmed you would have called the police.  If you truly believed it was 100% the teachers fault you would have been at the district offices demanding a meeting.  I am NOT JUDGING YOU I HAVE BEEN THERE.  Running home and saying your just going to keep him home may temporarily solve the problem.  If you can wade thru my bluntness I really want the best for your child.  You both have to be exausted.  I know I was.  I am sorry for how the school is failing your child but you HAVE TO GIVE HIM THE PROPER TOOLS.  Imagine goingto a rock concert and asked to take an essay, while juggling monkeys with your left hand, standing on your tippy toes. That is what goes on in their brains.   They see hear and absorb every ounce of what is going on around them and can't filter out anything to function.  I believe the school is not 100 helpful but I also think you need to bend as well.  PM me if you need to talk mother to mother


Quoting BraydensMama163:

will you please just shut up.


I don't need your opinion.
Nor do I want it. Get off my post.



Quoting Christy1919:


Okay I just have to say this.  You're waiting for the super to call you?  IF my kid were harmed in any way the super would have to peel me off the door before he could even walk thru the building.  I think you are doing your child the biggest disservice by not addressing the issue which is in fact his adhd lack of medication.  Imagine what is going thru his head the chaos.  You can only shelter him so long and my guess is since you couldn't even figure out that he DOES qualify for an IEP that you'll fail him in proper education as well.  GET HIM HIS MEDICATION for gods sakes woman its terrible what you are doing to him by not giving him the tools he needs to succeed.



Quoting BraydensMama163:

No. I didn't get the call from the superintendent like I thought I would. I called her early this morning....

I don't think I will send brayden back tomorrow but will on Monday to collect his things.
I have found several good curriculums to follow so I will be working on my letter this weekend and will submit it and withdraw him from the public school system on monday




Quoting Des10ed2b:



any new updates?



 


 

 


Bellsbabyboys
by Bronze Member on Sep. 21, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Yeah Actully I have had to do that its called not having insurance and making the choice between food on the table for the entire family and getting the meds for your child. I agree that it is a parents resopsability to teach a child the correct behavior. Oh and here is one for you you cant have ODD with out the adhd at least not that i have heard of I have been dealing with adhd for 16 years and have never heard of a child with odd on its own. adhd yes. She didnt come here to get attacked by people like you that think you know it all, she came her for help.  Not everyone knows about IEP's, There seems to be a chain of failure with this kid. Not just the mom burrying her head in the sand. 

kansasmom1978
by Katie on Sep. 21, 2012 at 9:40 AM
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I would take pics and take them to police. Also there is no way a school can force you to medicate your son. They are not even allowed by law to tell you that. They are violating your rights.

Allisonc7910
by Allison on Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:06 AM
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 OP, go ahead and go to the police department.  You don't have to bring your son just the pictures.  I would file a report, esp since this person said that someone would have been arrested. Dont let this teacher get away with this again.

Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:


Quoting NDADanceMom:

SO for the moms calling the police.... If your child was being injured by this child and the teacher in her effort to restrain the boy gave him a bruise would you want the teacher fired?  Can you guarantee you could restrain an out of control child without leaving a bruise?  You dont know what happened.  I wouldnt threaten the teacher, call the police or demand that she was fired until you do.  YOu could ruin someones life when they were doing the right thing. 

Those look like someone dug their nails into that child AND twisted his arm........... That is not okay. I'm a retired cop - if I responded to that school while I was still a cop and saw that - someone would've been arrested.

For the record, there are NON LETHAL ways of restraining a child that does not involve bruising of any sort. Employees of the school system should be trained in their use. There is no reason to do that to a 6 year old child.

 

BraydensMama163
by Gold Member on Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:09 AM
I have talked to his Dr about it in the past and he feels brayden does not show signs. I think that now I'm going to stand my ground and push for more testing.



Quoting KyrinM:

Have you had your son tested for Asperger's Syndrome? Mine has this & is ADHD & he was having a very hard time in public school, we are homeschooling him right now, but we are hoping to mainstream him back in next year. We are enrolling him into several programs that offer assistance with this & can help teach him coping skills. I would have your son evaluated, you can get assistance from your state for this, as it is considered a disability. Also, if he is positive for this, then that changes this whole thing. Also, if he does have this, do not panic, it doesn't mean there is anything seriously wrong with him, it just means that a few social connections are not wired up properly & he will need help to learn how to work around them. Hugs!
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BraydensMama163
by Gold Member on Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:11 AM
I also had a voicemail from the principal I got last night. Where he was humming last week...

Sgr says in the voicemail they had to carry him to the office that day in a chair....


Quoting Allisonc7910:

 OP, go ahead and go to the police department.  You don't have to bring your son just the pictures.  I would file a report, esp since this person said that someone would have been arrested. Dont let this teacher get away with this again.


Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:




Quoting NDADanceMom:


SO for the moms calling the police.... If your child was being injured by this child and the teacher in her effort to restrain the boy gave him a bruise would you want the teacher fired?  Can you guarantee you could restrain an out of control child without leaving a bruise?  You dont know what happened.  I wouldnt threaten the teacher, call the police or demand that she was fired until you do.  YOu could ruin someones life when they were doing the right thing. 


Those look like someone dug their nails into that child AND twisted his arm........... That is not okay. I'm a retired cop - if I responded to that school while I was still a cop and saw that - someone would've been arrested.


For the record, there are NON LETHAL ways of restraining a child that does not involve bruising of any sort. Employees of the school system should be trained in their use. There is no reason to do that to a 6 year old child.


 

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mommysangelface
by Pagan Princess on Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Please file a police report
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LoveMyLos
by Amy on Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Oh hell no! my ds has them same diagnoses...non medicated...i would be calling the superintendent and also the police....doesnt matter what the boy did. they made those marks....do it now before the school can cover their tracks. i would also contact a lawyer.

I know what youre going through mama...hugs...
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LoveMyLos
by Amy on Sep. 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM
Please pm me! i wont be able to respond until tonight, but please please pm me.
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