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*EDIT* - Meeting -- You're going to be an irresponsible parent, and then get mad at me for saying so?

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So we postponed the vacation because we are friends with the dad for one. For two we were going to leave at 5pm and he asked us to wait for a half hour until he got home, so I said okay but ten when he wasn't home by 6 we left.
Also everyone keeps asking why they aren't in school, it's because it's fall break here. They have today, Friday, and Monday off of school.
Also for those bashing my parenting skills and missing the point, my son has high functioning autism. He isn't a violent kid, usually he annoys people by yelling or whistling. It doesn't big me so I don't make hi stop unless someone asks me to, which has only happened twice in the three years we've lived there. We know all of these neighbors very well. The kids play in the yard outside my kitchen window where today i happened to be doing dishes with the door (thats also in the kitchen) propped open so i could see and hear. all of a sudden i look out the window and my kid is on the ground crying and K is yelling at him. Honestly if me turning my head to put a dish into the dishwasher is so bad, I'd really love to see how PERFECTLY you all watch your kids without ever blinking or going to the bathroom... As for what my son did, I talked to him about tackling and being too rough and it was done and over. I can't believe that so many of you are missing the part where this kid is running amuck and there is nothing I can do because there is no adult around.. But if this is a bash me post then fine..





Sorry it's kinda long but this is the short version..





So this morning my sons friends from next door (G, P, and D) come over and ask if he can play. I say yes but we have to go to the store first. So I'm walking out to my car (which is in a car port - we currently live in a townhouse) and I get SHOWERED with dust and wood from the roof. I walk out and see my next door neighbors (different next door, in the townhouse next to me) 10 year old (K) running around across the car port. I tell him to get down and he does.





So we get back from the store and after some other stuff happened (just kids in an empty house - yeah I forgot to mention that there is no adult home!!) the kids start playing 500 with the football in the shared side yard. Well K comes out and wants to play. Sure.. Well my son has autism and ADHD and gets a little carried away. All the kids around the neighborhood and their parents know to come get me if he starts acting up. So my son tackles K out of nowhere so he punched my kid in the face. I came out and told him that he needed to come get me and he shouldn't punch people. Everything is fine so I go in the house but prop the door open farther so I can hear better. All of a sudden K starts yelling at my son and his friend to get off his property. So I go outside and say, K, this is all of our property. We share this yard. Nobody has to leave but if you're that upset you can go into your house.



So then he does, and starts calling the kids jerks out the window. I went outside and told the kids to play over closer to my house ad they do and K yells, I wish I could call my parents.. Well K's sister is on their porch - she 8 (Gr) and I ask her, you Gus don't have a phone? And she says no. I'm like... Your parents left you at home, alone, with no phone? (All that's going trough my head is, what if K fell off the car port and broke his leg.. And she said yeah.. So under my breath I say wow that was responsible.



I guess K heard me because he grabbed his sister and they jumped on their bikes and rode them to his moms work. 5 mins later, she walks up to me in front of all the kids and said, wanna tell me what happened? So I told her the whole story. So then she's like, we'll K said you called me a bad parent. And I repeated what I actually said, and she got upset. I was like, whoa whoa wait.. Your kid is running around jumping on the carport and punches my kid in the face and you think he is responsible enough to be at home alone and I should mind my own business?!?! Are you insane? I have spent my whole morning practically babysitting your "responsible" kid! If anything you owe me an apology!



She stormed off and said, kids get in the car! And they all left. Now their dad text my husband and wants to have a "meeting" with us. (My husband has no idea what's going on...) so this is going to be a fun night.. Oh and to top it off we are postponing leaving for our vacation to deal with this mess!
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by on Oct. 11, 2012 at 6:26 PM
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little.worthen
by Tess on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:20 PM

they were playing 500... with a football... a game where you try to get the ball before anyone else so you can get 500 points and be the nect captain.. i cant believe everyone is surprised that a bunch of BOYS playing with a FOOTBALL (by the way K is on a football team and gets tackled all the time) would TACKLE each other...

yeah, this is all my sons fault and mine and the other mom should win an award.. how dare i question her parenting skills?


ETA: sorry that wasnt directed at you... it was more towards a group of people.

Quoting Jennyanne322:

Your son tackled him and he reacted just like any normal person would have done, regardless of who they are. They are young children. Both children were wrong for what they did. If you are aware that your son has outbursts than you should make sure that you are with him or within eye shot to where you could prevent something in the future.
The other children's parents really shouldn't be allowing them to stay home alone at all. They are to young. I wouldn't delay my trip to speak to the father though.


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silverdawn99
by Jamie on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:20 PM
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not everyone plays flag football

in fact 90% of boys play TACKLE football or at least they used to. ask any boy and they want to tackle SMH


Quoting christina0607:

We make sure all rules are gone over and everyone is OK with them before playing. You can play flag football, which is what most kids want to play.

Quoting silverdawn99:

i guess in football you arent supposed to tackle???

of course they tackle

sheesh

Quoting christina0607:

Its not your job to make judgements about her parenting, it was wrong and rude. Your son tackled hers and hers reacted, you made things worse by getting involved.



christina0607
by on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:20 PM
Personal responsibility op..... look it uo, because you seriously lack it.
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little.worthen
by Tess on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:21 PM

actually i asked the police and they said my state has no age limit

Quoting BlessedMommyNE:

At 10 and 8 it would be illegal for them to stay home by themselves. Like you said, what if something happened to one Of them and they don't even have a phone. I don't care if they are the best behaved kids, it's not okay for them to be home every day by themselves. Call CPS.


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thatonemomof2
by Member on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:22 PM
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I like how some of you parents think it's okay that a 10 year old punched a 7 year old autistic kid in the face. Just because he tackled him in a game of football. I'm sure the tackling didn't even hurt. He's 7. How hard can it be?? Also her point is why is this 10 year old who apparently is so responsible running around on top of a carport and yelling out windows. He had zero supervision. Op was watching her son and looked away for a minute. Unlike the neighbors. Op i guess you must keep your eye on your son at all times. Don't even look down for a second ;)
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little.worthen
by Tess on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM

lol, yeah i said i said it under my breath while i was pulling her dad name up in my phone to let K use it.. who was in the house and heard..

Quoting christina0607:

They just overheard you? You are just full of excuses, you are unbelievable.

Quoting little.worthen:

i never said anything to the kids. they just over heard me. that doesnt make it okay, but i wasnt like, "your parents are irresponsible."

either way, if its my fault that someones UNsupervised child punched my kid in the face then sure.. even though my son was already spoken to and i never made a huge deal out of the punching thing to him. never labeled it as an excuse and even said, it wasnt okay... but if that makes his mom more responsible to you because she wasnt even there at ALL and i had no way of getting him to leave the other kids alone because we share property.. then sure.

whatever gets you to leave the post.

Quoting christina0607:

Then you need to supervise you child every single time he is playing in a group. Except responsibility and the fact that you dropped the ball here.



Its not ks job to have to handle it...its yours.



You speaking about someones parenting to their child is reprehensible, you should be ashamed of yourself. If you have an adult problem you need to take it up with other adults.




Quoting little.worthen:

do you know anything about autistic kids?

its not bad behavior... its an automatic, uncontrollable action. by the time he did it he was already sorry. he just all of a sudden moved.
he does stuff like starts yelling really loud or whistling in peoples ears, or things like that, its all notrmal to me at this point. His friend G can handle it, and apparently K cant. thats why i tell them and their parents if he starts getting to be too much or starts annoying you, then let me know and i will tell him to settle down.

its not like he goes around hitting people. this is the first i've even ever heard of him tackling. the action is different all the time. again, not making it okay, but its not like he is a harm to people, just usually annoying.

and lets say he isnt autistic.. and he tackled K. he still gets in trouble when i hear about it.. is that supposed to make K punching him in the face any better? is that supposed to make his mother more responsible for leaving him at home?

no.... and if you think for any reason it does.. or that i shouldnt be worried about her parenting skills when it affects my kid, then you have your priorities mixed up, and i hope nothing bad ever happens to your kids when its something out of your control...

have a good one sweetheart.

Quoting christina0607:

And here you are justifying your child's bad behavior.... how can you not see that?





Quoting little.worthen:

they were right outside the window. i was doing dishes. i could see all of them, but i must have been bent over putting a dish in the dishwasher..... my bad....

guess i'm just glad i dont have you for some loony neighbor who justifiys their kids bad behavior when they have no adult supervision to be an autistic 7 year olds fault....

Quoting christina0607:

You should make sure you are with him, and not leave it to small children to police him. Because that's when things like this happen.







Quoting little.worthen:

i didnt say that was an excuse. he got in trouble. but everyone is aware that its expected for him to do things like that. what am i supposed to do? keep him locked up in the house and never let him play?

none of the other kids have a problem coming and getting me and NOT punching him in the face... 

Quoting christina0607:

Your child is excused from aggressive behavior, just because he has autism. Sorry but life just doesn't work that way and he will have problems going forward if that does change.









Quoting little.worthen:

haha, wow. so her son was justified to punch my kid in the face when everyone KNOWS he is autistic? K wasnt even invited to play. my son was nice enough to let him come and play with him and his friends.

i dont make judgements about her parenting. i said it was irresponsible that she let her kids run around the neighborhood and do whatever they want potentially hurting themselves and others, with no way to contact an adult.

its not like i can (or should have to) come outside and tell her kids what to do, or punish them.. i didnt say what my son did was okay, but that doesnt excuse the fact that he punched my kid in the face.

Quoting christina0607:

Its not your job to make judgements about her parenting, it was wrong and rude. Your son tackled hers and hers reacted, you made things worse by getting involved.







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cherrywaves21
by on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM
You said your son tackled the boy out of nowhere. That isn't playing football that's your son not controlling himself.


Quoting little.worthen:

they were playing 500... with a football... a game where you try to get the ball before anyone else so you can get 500 points and be the nect captain.. i cant believe everyone is surprised that a bunch of BOYS playing with a FOOTBALL (by the way K is on a football team and gets tackled all the time) would TACKLE each other...

yeah, this is all my sons fault and mine and the other mom should win an award.. how dare i question her parenting skills?


ETA: sorry that wasnt directed at you... it was more towards a group of people.

Quoting Jennyanne322:

Your son tackled him and he reacted just like any normal person would have done, regardless of who they are. They are young children. Both children were wrong for what they did. If you are aware that your son has outbursts than you should make sure that you are with him or within eye shot to where you could prevent something in the future.

The other children's parents really shouldn't be allowing them to stay home alone at all. They are to young. I wouldn't delay my trip to speak to the father though.



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christina0607
by on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM
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Yes they do....however take the time to bread the posts and replies, she has clearly identified that what her son did was not part of the game. So whatever point you are arguing, is rather pointless and silly.

Quoting silverdawn99:

not everyone plays flag football

in fact 90% of boys play TACKLE football or at least they used to. ask any boy and they want to tackle SMH


Quoting christina0607:

We make sure all rules are gone over and everyone is OK with them before playing. You can play flag football, which is what most kids want to play.



Quoting silverdawn99:

i guess in football you arent supposed to tackle???

of course they tackle

sheesh

Quoting christina0607:

Its not your job to make judgements about her parenting, it was wrong and rude. Your son tackled hers and hers reacted, you made things worse by getting involved.



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godsgirl26
by ♥Char2theMaine♥ on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:24 PM
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Please let me point something out to you. They were playing football ( what boys play)
Tackling is apart of football i see no harm in what your son did. Now on the other hand that lil BAD KID punch your son in the flipping face. Tackling and punching in the face is two different things. If i were you i would not be sorry my son tackled someone if they were playing football.
If those lil babies cant handle real football then they shouldnt be playing plain and simple :)


Quoting little.worthen:

do you know anything about autistic kids?

its not bad behavior... its an automatic, uncontrollable action. by the time he did it he was already sorry. he just all of a sudden moved.
he does stuff like starts yelling really loud or whistling in peoples ears, or things like that, its all notrmal to me at this point. His friend G can handle it, and apparently K cant. thats why i tell them and their parents if he starts getting to be too much or starts annoying you, then let me know and i will tell him to settle down.

its not like he goes around hitting people. this is the first i've even ever heard of him tackling. the action is different all the time. again, not making it okay, but its not like he is a harm to people, just usually annoying.

and lets say he isnt autistic.. and he tackled K. he still gets in trouble when i hear about it.. is that supposed to make K punching him in the face any better? is that supposed to make his mother more responsible for leaving him at home?

no.... and if you think for any reason it does.. or that i shouldnt be worried about her parenting skills when it affects my kid, then you have your priorities mixed up, and i hope nothing bad ever happens to your kids when its something out of your control...

have a good one sweetheart.

Quoting christina0607:

And here you are justifying your child's bad behavior.... how can you not see that?



Quoting little.worthen:

they were right outside the window. i was doing dishes. i could see all of them, but i must have been bent over putting a dish in the dishwasher..... my bad....

guess i'm just glad i dont have you for some loony neighbor who justifiys their kids bad behavior when they have no adult supervision to be an autistic 7 year olds fault....

Quoting christina0607:

You should make sure you are with him, and not leave it to small children to police him. Because that's when things like this happen.





Quoting little.worthen:

i didnt say that was an excuse. he got in trouble. but everyone is aware that its expected for him to do things like that. what am i supposed to do? keep him locked up in the house and never let him play?

none of the other kids have a problem coming and getting me and NOT punching him in the face... 

Quoting christina0607:

Your child is excused from aggressive behavior, just because he has autism. Sorry but life just doesn't work that way and he will have problems going forward if that does change.







Quoting little.worthen:

haha, wow. so her son was justified to punch my kid in the face when everyone KNOWS he is autistic? K wasnt even invited to play. my son was nice enough to let him come and play with him and his friends.

i dont make judgements about her parenting. i said it was irresponsible that she let her kids run around the neighborhood and do whatever they want potentially hurting themselves and others, with no way to contact an adult.

its not like i can (or should have to) come outside and tell her kids what to do, or punish them.. i didnt say what my son did was okay, but that doesnt excuse the fact that he punched my kid in the face.

Quoting christina0607:

Its not your job to make judgements about her parenting, it was wrong and rude. Your son tackled hers and hers reacted, you made things worse by getting involved.





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sheramom4
by Bronze Member on Oct. 11, 2012 at 7:24 PM
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Even 7 year old boys who are NOT autistic tackle and play rough, but they don't usually punch someone in the face for it and the other boy is older....even more of a reason to know better. First, K is obviously not responsible enough to be home alone, it sounds like the neighbors expected the other parents in the area to be free childcare for these two kids and that is the main point of the OP.

 I would make it very simple for the dad, if you see the kids home alone you will be calling someone...end of discussion. And that if K can play nicely he is welcome to play, but at 10 he should know better than to climb a carport or punch someone in the face, otherwise he cannot play. Also, that none of the yard is "his" property and being disrespectful to adults is unacceptable.

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