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by on Nov. 5, 2012 at 6:39 AM
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alwayskk
by on Nov. 5, 2012 at 8:50 AM
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A limited worldview: one in which you think you have the answers for everything. One in which you believe that other people should have the same morals as you. One in which you believe you know what is right and wrong in every instance. 

Quoting Savedfromsin79:

Good then I will address you both!

1) Why does any of what I said.. Make me have a LIMITED world view? Do I not have access to the same information as you? I watch the news. I see the public programming. I also read multiple Internet publications. Including the Drudge report. I go onto BOTH Liberal and Conservative sites all over the Internet. I don't cherry pick my facts. I have read both sides. BUT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT.. WOULD YOU.. EITHER OF YOU? You don't know me. You don't know what I do. You only Assume that because I posted a bible verse I must be ignorant! Thanks but no thanks. Your not pasting me with that line of malarkey!

Stating you support something but think it is either wrong for yourself is not "enlightened" it is merely saying you will watch others do things and support their right to do them.. REGARDLESS of the results. Because it doesn't DIRECTLY EFFECT YOU!

But it does directly effect the society you live within. It does directly effect the nation you live in. SO the IGNORANCE.. Is to believe that people who's lives are so tied to one another can actively support something and not be affected!

Just like paying taxes.. You will feel the effects if someone doesn't pay. Not right away, Like if that person was in your home and not paying rent or something.. But in a  slower and more long term way.



Quoting ashleyrenee24:

She said exactly what I was going to say.

Quoting alwayskk:

I would have to disagree.

The easy part is having a limited world view in which you feel you have the right to dictate the actions of others.

MUCH easier than to say, "I may not agree with this but I understand why it should be legal."



bowribbonmama
by Bronze Member on Nov. 5, 2012 at 8:50 AM
Abortion saved my life.
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randi1978
by Murdoc's Mistress on Nov. 5, 2012 at 9:05 AM
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It's honestly too early in the morning for this shit.

But fine, I'll bite.

Nobody has the right to dictate my body, period.  I live by my own code of ethics and morals.  They're subjective to each and every person.  I don't believe in plop till you drop, I rather like being able to control whether or not I get pregnant (or remain pregnant, for that matter).  This issue has so many grey areas, you cannot ever leglislate any kind of laws on it or dictate the morality of the masses.  There are some areas of abortion I disagree with on a personal level, but who am I to want to push those personal views?  Every situation is unique and there is no one size fits all.

I believe in the right to end our lives when we become terminally ill and have little to no chance of recovery.  I believe in the right to determine how many children we have and whether or not we want to remain pregnant or not.  I believe in having more than just one or two options available in the event of an unplanned pregnancy.  I believe in being able to sleep with whomever we wish without being tied down in marriage or a committed relationship.  I believe that women can enjoy their sexuality without being slut shamed because they don't abide by someone else's morals.  I believe in access to birth control that can, by most pro life standards, be considered abortion because it can destroy a fertilized egg.  I believe in being able to choose for ourselves what is best and not what some fetus worshiping zealot thinks is best.  I don't want your morality.  I have no need for it.  You can claim your god wants life etc, but there are many passages of the bible where it proves he not only condoned abortion and murder, but encouraged it.  When you spew your nonsense, you make your god sound like a hypocrite.

BrookeNicole86
by Bronze Member on Nov. 5, 2012 at 9:08 AM
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For a group of people who are supposed to be so righteous and good, it's people like you who give Christians a bad name. Judging people and telling them what they're doing is a sin is not the way to win people over. And if you really want to play by the "because the bible tells me so" game, how many instances were there in the bible where innocent children were killed? Double standard much? It's okay to kill children if GOD says its okay.....
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Arwyn724
by on Nov. 5, 2012 at 9:10 AM
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OP, I feel if you resort to quoting bible verses, you should use the entire thought.

Proverbs 6:16   There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to Him:

6:17  haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood.

6:18  a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil,

6:19  a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers

I've highlighted the ones you are guilty of, and as there are no degrees of sin, then you are as guilty as anyone else.  So, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.......

Make your own choices, but let everyone else make theirs, also.  Not everyone believes in your God.

Savedfromsin79
by on Nov. 5, 2012 at 9:21 AM

I have never ever ever said I have the answer to all things.

I have the answer to VERY LITTLE!

Which is why I often get grouched at for quoting others.. 

Again YOUR ASSUMING!

I have not stated any of that. Maybe someone else you know has done so.. I have not! 

Quoting alwayskk:

A limited worldview: one in which you think you have the answers for everything. One in which you believe that other people should have the same morals as you. One in which you believe you know what is right and wrong in every instance. 

Quoting Savedfromsin79:

Good then I will address you both!

1) Why does any of what I said.. Make me have a LIMITED world view? Do I not have access to the same information as you? I watch the news. I see the public programming. I also read multiple Internet publications. Including the Drudge report. I go onto BOTH Liberal and Conservative sites all over the Internet. I don't cherry pick my facts. I have read both sides. BUT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT.. WOULD YOU.. EITHER OF YOU? You don't know me. You don't know what I do. You only Assume that because I posted a bible verse I must be ignorant! Thanks but no thanks. Your not pasting me with that line of malarkey!

Stating you support something but think it is either wrong for yourself is not "enlightened" it is merely saying you will watch others do things and support their right to do them.. REGARDLESS of the results. Because it doesn't DIRECTLY EFFECT YOU!

But it does directly effect the society you live within. It does directly effect the nation you live in. SO the IGNORANCE.. Is to believe that people who's lives are so tied to one another can actively support something and not be affected!

Just like paying taxes.. You will feel the effects if someone doesn't pay. Not right away, Like if that person was in your home and not paying rent or something.. But in a  slower and more long term way.



Quoting ashleyrenee24:

She said exactly what I was going to say.

Quoting alwayskk:

I would have to disagree.

The easy part is having a limited world view in which you feel you have the right to dictate the actions of others.

MUCH easier than to say, "I may not agree with this but I understand why it should be legal."




alwayskk
by on Nov. 5, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Yes, you are correct. I am assuming, based on your point of view.

People who are pro life think they have the answers for pregnant women. If they did not think that, they wouldn't have an opinion on making abortion illegal.

If you think abortion should be illegal, then what do you think people should do when they become pregnant with a child they did not want or plan for?

Quoting Savedfromsin79:

I have never ever ever said I have the answer to all things.

I have the answer to VERY LITTLE!

Which is why I often get grouched at for quoting others.. 

Again YOUR ASSUMING!

I have not stated any of that. Maybe someone else you know has done so.. I have not! 


"Go deeper than love, for the soul has greater depth…love is like the grass, but the heart is deep wild rock, ….molten, yet dense and permanent." ~ D. H. Lawrence.

You are the peace of all things calm. You are the place to hide from harm. You are the light that shines in dark. You are the heart’s eternal spark. You are the door that’s open wide. You are the guest who waits inside. You are the stranger at the door. You are the calling of the poor. You are with me still. You are my love, keep me from ill. You are the light, the truth, the way. ~ Oral Celtic Tradition

Savedfromsin79
by on Nov. 5, 2012 at 9:28 AM

A) HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT MY EYES LOOK LIKE? You have not seen me.

B) I admit there are those who claim to be Christians.. aka brethren WHO I don't agree with. That doesn't mean I sowed ANYTHING. 

I did disagree.. so yes there was discord. In this post I suppose I could be blamed for sowing. 

Quoting Arwyn724:

OP, I feel if you resort to quoting bible verses, you should use the entire thought.

Proverbs 6:16   There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to Him:

6:17  haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood.

6:18  a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil,

6:19  a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers

I've highlighted the ones you are guilty of, and as there are no degrees of sin, then you are as guilty as anyone else.  So, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.......

Make your own choices, but let everyone else make theirs, also.  Not everyone believes in your God.

I agree there is no degree of sins. I agree I am guilty of much. 

ashleyrenee24
by Ashley on Nov. 5, 2012 at 9:29 AM
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I'm sorry but if you honestly think banning abortion will do some good in this world, you live in lala land.

alwayskk
by on Nov. 5, 2012 at 9:30 AM
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LMFAO

How can anyone attempt a serious conversation with you after this? 

Haughty, as in arrogant. Eyes can't actually LOOK arrogant, she doesn't need to see you to be able to tell how incredibly arrogant you are.

And with that, this conversation is over. I can't even take you seriously.

Quoting Savedfromsin79:

A) HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT MY EYES LOOK LIKE? You have not seen me.

B) I admit there are those who claim to be Christians.. aka brethren WHO I don't agree with. That doesn't mean I sowed ANYTHING. 

I did disagree.. so yes there was discord. In this post I suppose I could be blamed for sowing. 

Quoting Arwyn724:

OP, I feel if you resort to quoting bible verses, you should use the entire thought.

Proverbs 6:16   There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to Him:

6:17  haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood.

6:18  a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil,

6:19  a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers

I've highlighted the ones you are guilty of, and as there are no degrees of sin, then you are as guilty as anyone else.  So, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.......

Make your own choices, but let everyone else make theirs, also.  Not everyone believes in your God.

I agree there is no degree of sins. I agree I am guilty of much. 


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