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Yes it does PISS me off, but I can not really do anything about it.

It pisses me off that someone can get a large tax payment, more than they even paid in taxes in the first place for things they "want", while we, as the people that make too much, still must pay for the rest of their needs.

It pisses me off that a person that doesn't  work can have basically the same exact things that my husband and I work hard to have.

It pisses me off that people that receive assistance (other than those disabled) are not required to work full time and continue doing so for many, many years.

I am really not against those that need assistance, just those that are not trying to better their situation. It really upsets me to see when someone is a SAHM, there husband only works 20-30 hours a week, and they get everything paid for then get to take that same vacation my husband and I take on their tax money. I am not saying that people on assistance deserve zero fun but the MAJORITY of that money they get back should be used for things they need or saved for a time they will need something. Sorry for this rant.

by on Dec. 8, 2012 at 9:44 PM
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Tea4Tas
by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:53 AM
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Quoting SOCO101:


Quoting Tea4Tas:


Quoting SOCO101:

TBH, what pisses me off is seeing the wealthy bitch about paying higher taxes. Maybe not you OP, but look at all these ppl that have so much money they don't know what to do with it. Would it really hurt them to help out the lower class? Believe me, they're not giving anything up. They're still gonna go on their fancy vacations and buy the most expensive vehicles. While the majority of the county works their ass off just to get by. 

Why do they have to pay for you? They are already taxed at 35%. They are already FUNDING the poor.  Why should they be required to do more?

That means that 35% of their time is spent earning money to pay taxes....many of the very high wage earners wourk ridiculously long hours-60-90 hour work weeks.   Tell me do you know what it is like to work a 70 hour work week?

Trust me, I know. I also know that you are not paying for me. We are not on any type of PA. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you start jumping down ppl's throats. My husband works at a state penitentiary, working around ppl all day that you lock your doors at night to keep out. We are considered middle class, half of his paycheck goes to TAXES and insurance every month. Do you know what it's like to work in an environment like that, well over 40hrs/week, and still be living paycheck to paycheck all because you pay so much to the government. When we get our taxes back, it's the one time of the year we have the opportunity to get things done to our house that we need, get ahead on a few bills, insurance for our vehicles. All that fun shit. So tell me how it will hurt the 1% to pay a higher tax rate? They're still going to be living their luxurious lifestyles w/o having to sacrifice a damn thing. 

How do you get taxes back?   I pay out $450 a week in FEDERAL taxes alone and never see a return. EVER. IF you qualify for EITC then that is the reason for your refund-if you do not-for God's sake change his witholding!

Preview of 2012 Tax Year

Earned Income and adjusted gross income (AGI) must each be less than:

  • $45,060 ($50,270 married filing jointly) with three or more qualifying children
  • $41,952 ($47,162 married filing jointly) with two qualifying children
  • $36,920 ($42,130 married filing jointly) with one qualifying child
  • $13,980 ($19,190 married filing jointly) with no qualifying children

Tax Year 2012 maximum credit:

  • $5,891 with three or more qualifying children
  • $5,236 with two qualifying children
  • $3,169 with one qualifying child
  • $475 with no qualifying children

Investment income must be $3,200 or less for the year.

pristine729
by Silver Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:55 AM
I understand. I could never afford a vacation! Must be nice.
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BluePandaDreams
by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:57 AM
Correct. Or you can buy one at walmart for 75 bucks, which is how I got mine.

Quoting madysonalliah:

You can get a free iPhone with a 2 year contract. I get that its up setting about the welfare and foodstamps but you don't know the whole situation. People are so quick to judge. And before it gets asked no I do not get foodstamps or am i on welfare but yes i do have an iPhone




Quoting SRUsarahSC:

I could have screamed today, was at a Christmas parade and the woman next to me was screaming into her i-phone about her welfare and FS....if you're on welfare and FS, WHY DO YOU HAVE AN I-PHONE???? 


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sucker4myloves
by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:58 AM

Bahahaha, I have never made 60k in my life. They took 200 out of my 900 dollar check, BI WEEKLY. Brings it down to 700, there's rent, because I lived a college town. Then there's the $200 for electric, because we didn't get to pick our electric company, and were paying out the ass. Take out $200 a month in gas, because work was thirty minutes away from home, and that's JUST the gas spent for work, never mind anywhere else. Minus thirty for water, and that left a whopping $270 a month to divvy up among groceries and other necessities.

What world do you live in? Not the poor world, obviously. This was seven years ago.

Oh, and my big fat tax return of about $1,000? Each year, it was spent on a new shitty falling apart car, because inevitably, the previous year's shitty car would die a resounding death.

I think if I had to work that same job today, in today's economy, with a child this time, I'd be on every welfare program imaginable too.

Quoting Tea4Tas:


Quoting sucker4myloves:

I do. I used to work 80 hours a week at a thankless job that drove me to drink and paid so little that 80 hours a week barely enabled me to pay all my bills and have enough to eat. And 200 a paycheck being taken out for taxes, 200 that meant I go from eating twice a day to once a day. Don't know about SOCO, but I've been there, and I was poor doing it. Don't feel sorry for the big wigs, no sir not one bit.

Quoting Tea4Tas:


Quoting SOCO101:

TBH, what pisses me off is seeing the wealthy bitch about paying higher taxes. Maybe not you OP, but look at all these ppl that have so much money they don't know what to do with it. Would it really hurt them to help out the lower class? Believe me, they're not giving anything up. They're still gonna go on their fancy vacations and buy the most expensive vehicles. While the majority of the county works their ass off just to get by. 

Why do they have to pay for you? They are already taxed at 35%. They are already FUNDING the poor.  Why should they be required to do more?

That means that 35% of their time is spent earning money to pay taxes....many of the very high wage earners wourk ridiculously long hours-60-90 hour work weeks.   Tell me do you know what it is like to work a 70 hour work week?


So they should have to do it and you shouldn't have had to?  How is that fair?  At $200 a week for Federal taxes, you paid out $10,400 in taxes yearly (assuming no refund) that is what you would pay on about 60K in income-how come you couldn't live off of that?


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momdoes
by Platinum Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:02 AM
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LOL.........last year my sister tried to file for taxes and the girl didnt work a lick! All she had coming in was child support and she claimed the judge told her she could file on that. My husband worked for H&R Block for three seasons and tried telling her she could not, but she would not listen. The entiltlement had her deaf.

She didnt get to file and wont again this year, as she didnt work a lick again this year!

Tea4Tas
by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM
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Quoting sucker4myloves:

Bahahaha, I have never made 60k in my life. They took 200 out of my 900 dollar check, BI WEEKLY. Brings it down to 700, there's rent, because I lived a college town. Then there's the $200 for electric, because we didn't get to pick our electric company, and were paying out the ass. Take out $200 a month in gas, because work was thirty minutes away from home, and that's JUST the gas spent for work, never mind anywhere else. Minus thirty for water, and that left a whopping $270 a month to divvy up among groceries and other necessities.

What world do you live in? Not the poor world, obviously. This was seven years ago.

Oh, and my big fat tax return of about $1,000? Each year, it was spent on a new shitty falling apart car, because inevitably, the previous year's shitty car would die a resounding death.

I think if I had to work that same job today, in today's economy, with a child this time, I'd be on every welfare program imaginable too.

Quoting Tea4Tas:


Quoting sucker4myloves:

I do. I used to work 80 hours a week at a thankless job that drove me to drink and paid so little that 80 hours a week barely enabled me to pay all my bills and have enough to eat. And 200 a paycheck being taken out for taxes, 200 that meant I go from eating twice a day to once a day. Don't know about SOCO, but I've been there, and I was poor doing it. Don't feel sorry for the big wigs, no sir not one bit.

Quoting Tea4Tas:


Quoting SOCO101:

TBH, what pisses me off is seeing the wealthy bitch about paying higher taxes. Maybe not you OP, but look at all these ppl that have so much money they don't know what to do with it. Would it really hurt them to help out the lower class? Believe me, they're not giving anything up. They're still gonna go on their fancy vacations and buy the most expensive vehicles. While the majority of the county works their ass off just to get by. 

Why do they have to pay for you? They are already taxed at 35%. They are already FUNDING the poor.  Why should they be required to do more?

That means that 35% of their time is spent earning money to pay taxes....many of the very high wage earners wourk ridiculously long hours-60-90 hour work weeks.   Tell me do you know what it is like to work a 70 hour work week?


So they should have to do it and you shouldn't have had to?  How is that fair?  At $200 a week for Federal taxes, you paid out $10,400 in taxes yearly (assuming no refund) that is what you would pay on about 60K in income-how come you couldn't live off of that?


And on 23,000 a year with kids you would have been on every form of PA imaginable. I am not sure why you were having 20% taken out for taxes though-the tax rate on that income should have been about 11%.

And why were you earning about $4.75 per hour?  Because if it was one job and you were earning $450 per week, and working 80 hours, you were making less than that-how would that be legal?


And why would I live in the world of the poor? I spent years in college living off $20 a week for food so I wouldn't have to live in the world of the poor....Studying in bed because it was 50 degrees in my room and I couldn't afford to turn up the heat.

And because I did all of that, I should pay for people who don't want to do that?

mcwife86
by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:13 AM

disclaimer...we do receive a return (although I'm not sure if we will this year) and i am a SAHM. we do not receive assistance and never have needed it but i sure would be down there in a heart beat if i thought we did. i DO know a lot of people on some sort of assistance or that get a large return back. they aren't lazy. they deploy, they work long hours, and they make very very large sacrifices. however as far as the purchases go and the vacations go some of the families i know do that because they make poor choices with their money. rather than put it into savings they buy material objects or vacations. i know they want a break from their reality when they do this but its still not smart. i don't get mad though, i feel sorry for their family that rather than put at least half of it back in savings and pay down some bills they blow it out the window. but those are a minority. 98% of those i know that receive money back or some sort of assistance are responsible with their money they just aren't in a place yet to be as steady as they would like. its a waste of energy for me to be pissy abt the other 2 percent.

Tea4Tas
by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM


Quoting mcwife86:

disclaimer...we do receive a return (although I'm not sure if we will this year) and i am a SAHM. we do not receive assistance and never have needed it but i sure would be down there in a heart beat if i thought we did. i DO know a lot of people on some sort of assistance or that get a large return back. they aren't lazy. they deploy, they work long hours, and they make very very large sacrifices. however as far as the purchases go and the vacations go some of the families i know do that because they make poor choices with their money. rather than put it into savings they buy material objects or vacations. i know they want a break from their reality when they do this but its still not smart. i don't get mad though, i feel sorry for their family that rather than put at least half of it back in savings and pay down some bills they blow it out the window. but those are a minority. 98% of those i know that receive money back or some sort of assistance are responsible with their money they just aren't in a place yet to be as steady as they would like. its a waste of energy for me to be pissy abt the other 2 percent.

There are 3 ways to get a large return income:

Preview of 2012 Tax Year

Earned Income and adjusted gross income (AGI) must each be less than:

  • $45,060 ($50,270 married filing jointly) with three or more qualifying children
  • $41,952 ($47,162 married filing jointly) with two qualifying children
  • $36,920 ($42,130 married filing jointly) with one qualifying child
  • $13,980 ($19,190 married filing jointly) with no qualifying children

Tax Year 2012 maximum credit:

  • $5,891 with three or more qualifying children
  • $5,236 with two qualifying children
  • $3,169 with one qualifying child
  • $475 with no qualifying children

Investment income must be $3,200 or less for the year.


That is one way-and it's a form of PA designed during welfar reform to make it more profitable to work-it has since expanded beyond all reason.

Then you can be in the Military and deploy-since you are serving your country overseas, they have decided to make that money tax free.

Or you can have them over withold-which is pretty damned stupid IMO.


SRUsarahSC
by Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:23 AM
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it's not so much the cost of the phone but the cost of the data package.  If you can't afford to buy food, why do you have a phone that is going to cost at least $75 a month to maintain?  You need the phone to talk, not to surf the internet!


Quoting madysonalliah:

You can get a free iPhone with a 2 year contract. I get that its up setting about the welfare and foodstamps but you don't know the whole situation. People are so quick to judge. And before it gets asked no I do not get foodstamps or am i on welfare but yes i do have an iPhone


Quoting SRUsarahSC:

I could have screamed today, was at a Christmas parade and the woman next to me was screaming into her i-phone about her welfare and FS....if you're on welfare and FS, WHY DO YOU HAVE AN I-PHONE???? 



SRUsarahSC
by Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:24 AM

there is no apple company plants near where I live. I should have reinterated, it's not so much the cost of the phone but the amount you know they have to spend to keep it since it requires  a data package. Internet on the phone is not a neccessity. Get a downgraded phone and save the difference.

Quoting yayay15:

My friend had an iPhone and 5 iMac computers and she's on foodstamps. She worked for apple and won most of them or got a discount. She got pregnant and had hyperemisis (?) and had to quit. Her husband at the time had a good job but his hours got cut right before baby was born. He found a new job two months later with less pay but he took and they are still trying to get caught up.

She is now trying to sell her iMacs but I guess my point is that you never really know know how or why Someone has what they have.


Quoting SRUsarahSC:

I could have screamed today, was at a Christmas parade and the woman next to me was screaming into her i-phone about her welfare and FS....if you're on welfare and FS, WHY DO YOU HAVE AN I-PHONE???? 


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