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Abortion banned if heartbeat is heard, no matter the diagnoses!

Posted by on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:02 PM
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ND governor approves 6-week abortion ban

North Dakota Gov. Jack Dalrymple also signed into law a measure that would make his state the first to ban abortions based on genetic defects such as Down syndrome.

FARGO, N.D. — Gov. Jack Dalrymple signed legislation Tuesday that that would make North Dakota the nation's most restrictive state on abortion rights, banning the procedure if a fetal heartbeat can be detected — something that can happen as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.

The Republican governor also signed into law another measure that would makes North Dakota the first to ban abortions based on genetic defects such as Down syndrome, and a measure that requires a doctor who performs abortions to be a physician with hospital-admitting privileges.

The measures, which would take effect Aug. 1, are fueled in part by an attempt to close the state's sole abortion clinic in Fargo. Dalrymple, in a statement, said the so-called fetal heartbeat bill is a direct challenge to the U.S. Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion up until a fetus is considered viable, usually at 22 to 24 weeks.

"Although the likelihood of this measure surviving a court challenge remains in question, this bill is nevertheless a legitimate attempt by a state legislature to discover the boundaries of Roe v. Wade," Dalrymple said. "Because the U.S. Supreme Court has allowed state restrictions on the performing of abortions and because the Supreme Court has never considered this precise restriction ... the constitutionality of this measure is an open question."

Abortion-rights advocates have promised a legal fight that they say will be long, costly and unwinnable for the state.

Dalrymple's statement said the Legislature "should appropriate dollars for a litigation fund" before the session ends in early May.

Arkansas passed a 12-week ban earlier this month that prohibits most abortions when a fetal heartbeat can be detected using an abdominal ultrasound. That ban is scheduled to take effect 90 days after the Arkansas Legislature adjourns.

A fetal heartbeat can generally be detected earlier in a pregnancy using a vaginal ultrasound, but Arkansas lawmakers balked at requiring women seeking abortions to have the more invasive imaging technique.

North Dakota's legislation doesn't specify how a fetal heartbeat would be detected. Doctors performing an abortion after a heartbeat is detected could face a felony charge punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine. Women having an abortion would not face charges.

The legislation to ban abortions based on genetic defects also would ban abortion based on gender selection. The Guttmacher Institute, which tracks abortion laws throughout the country, says Pennsylvania, Arizona and Oklahoma also have laws outlawing abortion based on gender selection.

The Republican-led North Dakota Legislature has endorsed a spate of anti-abortion Legislation this year. North Dakota lawmakers moved last week to outlaw abortion in the state by passing a resolution defining life as starting at conception, essentially banning abortion in the state. The measure is likely to come before voters in November 2014.

Representatives also endorsed another anti-abortion bills last week that is awaiting Dalrymple's signature. It would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy based on the disputed premise that fetuses feel pain at that point.

Dalrymple said the measure requiring abortion doctors to have hospital-admitting privileges also likely will be challenged in court.

"Nevertheless, it is a legitimate and new question for the courts regarding a precise restriction on doctors who perform abortions," he said.

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kels1023
by on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:04 PM
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Well. I feel really awful for young rape victims who don't figure out they're pregnant until its too late.
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iansusie
by on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

I guess, for the sake of not "aborting" both I and the baby some would consider I aborted (surgery to remove fetus from my ruptured tube -ectopic pregnancy) should have died. Mind you there was a living child that would have lost his mother for a baby that was never going to survive.

thorntonwife
by on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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This is a stupid law nothing good comes from forcing people to have kids they aren't ready for or capable of tending too
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MissTacoBell
by Taco Bell Princess on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:27 PM
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It needs more caveats for instances of rape and incest, but other than that, I have to agree with it.
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QueenBof6
by Platinum Member on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:28 PM
This is so so sad.

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Arwyn724
by on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM

I'm glad I don't live there.

JP-StrongForTwo
by on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM
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I cant really say anything other than Im glad. Anything more I say would probably just cause a fight. 


Kaydence2010
by Maggie on Mar. 26, 2013 at 2:54 PM
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Very disappointing.... so sad.
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momtoBrenna
by Silver Member on Mar. 26, 2013 at 3:03 PM
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I am certain that the states surrounding ND will be taking in the mothers who want abortions for medical reasons especially if this goes into effect. I am pro choice. I would not have one but I refuse to judge those that do. I don't agree with ones past the first or early second trimester though except in cases of conditions incompatible with life. 

stcfilly
by on Mar. 26, 2013 at 3:06 PM
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most rape victims who choose abortions regret it later. aborting the baby does not undo what happened. and ectopic (tubal) pregnancy is a medical emergency and not considered a "real abortion." i am currently 22 weeks pregnant. i have felt my baby moving since 18 weeks. if that is not life, i don't know what is. there is no reason to be waiting even 3 months to decide you want an abortion. in my personal opinion, it is irresponsible to have sex (even protected) if you're not prepared to or capable of caring for a child if that is what results. everyone i know who has had abortions (and no, i do not judge them for it just becuase i am personally against it) regrets it and has not been the same since.  one was my grandmother, a rape victim.  another was my best friend who now has cancer and wants another child and might not be able to have one.  another was my own mother, because she didn't think she could afford another child.

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