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http://www.ican-online.org/pregnancy/family-centered-cesarean
The International Cesarean Awareness Network, Inc. (ICAN) opposes the use of cesarean surgery where there is no medical need. Vaginal birth is a normal, physiological process, and cesarean is major abdominal surgery. Cesarean exposes the mother to all the risks of major surgery, including a higher maternal mortality rate, infection, hemorrhage, complications of anesthesia, damage to internal organs, scar tissue, increase incidence of secondary infertility, longer recovery periods, increase in clinical postpartum depression, and complications in maternal-infant bonding and breastfeeding as well as risks to the infant of respiratory distress, prematurity and injuries from the surgery. It has been suggested that cesarean section is the safer method of birth for infants. However, scientific evidence proves that infant outcome does not improve once the cesarean rate climbs above 10 percent. All physicians take an oath to "Do no harm." This means choosing the path of least risk to patients. Medically unnecessary elective cesareans increase risk to birthing women. It is unethical and inappropriate for obstetricians to perform unnecessary surgery on a healthy woman with a normal pregnancy.
Common methods to avoid cesareans include choosing a caregiver expert in natural birth with low cesarean rates (below 15 percent is recommended), and preparing to birth naturally without induction or anesthesia medication. Medications tend to disrupt the normal process of labor and birth, and can negatively affect the mother and the baby, inviting other interventions including a cesarean. ICAN supports women’s rights to accurate, complete, evidence-based medical information; women’s right to the best and safest medical care in childbirth in situations where medical care is actually needed in childbirth. ICAN will continue to work to protect women’s rights to ethical and appropriate care in childbirth.
More of the article can be found on the link above (could not copy and paste the full text)
Danielle
ICAN supporter, Cesarean Mother, Natural Birth Advocate, Breastfeeding, Attachment Parenting, Baby wearing, Selectively Vaccinating, Pro Choice, Gay Marriage Supporting, Doula, Aspiring Midwife, Blogging, Loud Mouth, Bitch, Democrat, Stay At Home Mom, Reformed Mormon, Chiropractic Care for Children Supporting, VBAC Supporting, Home Birth Supporting, Radical Mother of Two amazing little boys.
Camden Kent and Benjamin Emil
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Danielle
ICAN supporter, Cesarean Mother, Natural Birth Advocate, Breastfeeding, Attachment Parenting, Baby wearing, Selectively Vaccinating, Pro Choice, Gay Marriage Supporting, Doula, Aspiring Midwife, Blogging, Loud Mouth, Bitch, Democrat, Stay At Home Mom, Reformed Mormon, Chiropractic Care for Children Supporting, VBAC Supporting, Home Birth Supporting, Radical Mother of Two amazing little boys.
Camden Kent and Benjamin Emil
thats all well and good but find one, just one, doctor withing a 100 miles of me that would touch a woman wanting a v-back. It's like if you have to have one (emergency for medical reasons) then you are screwed. I'm not saying it's right to have repeat c-sections but sometimes you just have to do the best you can with what you have (or don't have).

Oh, there are lots across the country that will take on VBAC patients, as well as midwives. If you gave me your town and a day, I could find you a couple. ![]()
Quoting mssemmy:
thats all well and good but find one, just one, doctor withing a 100 miles of me that would touch a woman wanting a v-back. It's like if you have to have one (emergency for medical reasons) then you are screwed. I'm not saying it's right to have repeat c-sections but sometimes you just have to do the best you can with what you have (or don't have).
Danielle
ICAN supporter, Cesarean Mother, Natural Birth Advocate, Breastfeeding, Attachment Parenting, Baby wearing, Selectively Vaccinating, Pro Choice, Gay Marriage Supporting, Doula, Aspiring Midwife, Blogging, Loud Mouth, Bitch, Democrat, Stay At Home Mom, Reformed Mormon, Chiropractic Care for Children Supporting, VBAC Supporting, Home Birth Supporting, Radical Mother of Two amazing little boys.
Camden Kent and Benjamin Emil
i guess i'm one of the rare people who actually enjoyed their c-section and am looking forward to my next one with the twins. *shrugs*
Quoting mssemmy:thats all well and good but find one, just one, doctor withing a 100 miles of me that would touch a woman wanting a v-back. It's like if you have to have one (emergency for medical reasons) then you are screwed. I'm not saying it's right to have repeat c-sections but sometimes you just have to do the best you can with what you have (or don't have).
You're absolutely right and no one would fault you for doing just that. The goal of the post (I am certain) is education, not judgement. Knowledge is power and the post is about women empowering women.
Do you have any midwives around you that would take a VBAC client? Have you looked at birthing centers that are not hospitals? You could also ask a doula near you for some names and info.
I think it's truly sad how the medical industry is taking this process away from us mainly because of costs and litigation risks. Birth should be handled with a case-by-case basis and not with rules like "no VBACs allowed".
Peace,
Kat
I'm not expecting right now. I have had three children all by cesarean. My first was an emergency. I didn't dilate all the way and she was stuck in the birth canal. So when I had my other two I tried both times to find a doctor that would do a vbac and both times I was told (by many different drs) that 1 they didn't do it at all or 2 they wouldn't do it for me even if they did. I know that having a vaginal birth is best and I really feel like I could have done it given the chance, however I was not going to risk something else going wrong like it did with my first. I wasn't able to even see her until the next day. So for me my planned c-sections were the best choice.
Quoting CTRedSoxMom:Oh, there are lots across the country that will take on VBAC patients, as well as midwives. If you gave me your town and a day, I could find you a couple.
Quoting mssemmy:
thats all well and good but find one, just one, doctor withing a 100 miles of me that would touch a woman wanting a v-back. It's like if you have to have one (emergency for medical reasons) then you are screwed. I'm not saying it's right to have repeat c-sections but sometimes you just have to do the best you can with what you have (or don't have).

I agree. I had to FIGHT tooth and nail to be able to attempt a VBAC. I had to lie to the on call OB/GYN at the hospital, as did my midwife once I was finally in labor also.
Thankfully the insurance companies are starting to get on to the link between c-sections before "due dates" and the high admission of those infants to NICU's so they are starting to cover VBAC and will not cover c-sections before 39 weeks gestation unless there is a serious medical problem (not elective).
I really believe that the tides are changing, and hopefully VBAC will go back to what it was in the early 90's.
Quoting WildKat:I think it's truly sad how the medical industry is taking this process away from us mainly because of costs and litigation risks. Birth should be handled with a case-by-case basis and not with rules like "no VBACs allowed".
Peace,
Kat
Danielle
ICAN supporter, Cesarean Mother, Natural Birth Advocate, Breastfeeding, Attachment Parenting, Baby wearing, Selectively Vaccinating, Pro Choice, Gay Marriage Supporting, Doula, Aspiring Midwife, Blogging, Loud Mouth, Bitch, Democrat, Stay At Home Mom, Reformed Mormon, Chiropractic Care for Children Supporting, VBAC Supporting, Home Birth Supporting, Radical Mother of Two amazing little boys.
Camden Kent and Benjamin Emil
One thing the article didn't mention that I would stress is to look for a hospital that will keep the baby in the same room as you through the whole procedure. I had 3 C-sections (failed 40-hour induction, failed VBAC, and scheduled) and that last one was at a much better hospital. They kept the baby in with me the whole time and tucked her in with me while we were wheeled to our room. It made a HUGE difference in the process and I feel, in our bonding.
I also did the music thing and the doula thing - having an extra set of hands to keep the baby alert while someone stays to comfort me was key to getting breastfeeding going smoothly.
Peace,
Kat
I agree.
With my second section, I was able to actually hold my son while I was on the table and it made a huge world of difference. I was also able to breastfeed while in the recovery room.
Quoting WildKat:
One thing the article didn't mention that I would stress is to look for a hospital that will keep the baby in the same room as you through the whole procedure. I had 3 C-sections (failed 40-hour induction, failed VBAC, and scheduled) and that last one was at a much better hospital. They kept the baby in with me the whole time and tucked her in with me while we were wheeled to our room. It made a HUGE difference in the process and I feel, in our bonding.
I also did the music thing and the doula thing - having an extra set of hands to keep the baby alert while someone stays to comfort me was key to getting breastfeeding going smoothly.
Peace,
Kat
Danielle
ICAN supporter, Cesarean Mother, Natural Birth Advocate, Breastfeeding, Attachment Parenting, Baby wearing, Selectively Vaccinating, Pro Choice, Gay Marriage Supporting, Doula, Aspiring Midwife, Blogging, Loud Mouth, Bitch, Democrat, Stay At Home Mom, Reformed Mormon, Chiropractic Care for Children Supporting, VBAC Supporting, Home Birth Supporting, Radical Mother of Two amazing little boys.
Camden Kent and Benjamin Emil
If I were to ever have another child, I would definitely have another C-section. To me, the risks of VBAC (for me) are too great for me to even consider.

I am a non-ERF, can't wait to drop the booster, breast-fed til 6 weeks, Nestle formula using, pro-choice, Independent, open-minded, gay marriage supporting, CIO, NON-AP, former Marine mom to the only perfect child on Earth. Don't tell me how to raise my kid, and I won't tell you what's wrong with yours!
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