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on Jul. 4, 2009 at 4:33 PM

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Pool staff's action fires up mothers
Lifeguard, manager forbid breast-feeding, prompting a nurse-in


By KATHY ANEY
The East Oregonian

Public protest comes in many forms, but Friday's "nurse-in" at Milton-Freewater's Aquatic Center was anything but typical.

Several women, all nursing mothers, sat poolside and nursed their babies, protesting an incident last weekend when a lifeguard asked a woman to leave the pool area and breastfeed in the locker room instead.

It happened as Christine Magnaghi sat in about an inch of water at the shallow end of the kiddie pool. As she kept one eye on her 2-year-old son Jerome, splashing in the water, she fed baby Levi under a nursing cover.

"I was almost done when I felt a tap on the shoulder," Magnaghi said.

After asking Magnaghi if she was breastfeeding, a lifeguard directed her inside the building. Magnaghi, of Walla Walla, protested.

"State law protects my right to breastfeed in public," she said.

The lifeguard left to retrieve pool manager, Karen Shelton.

Magnaghi asked Shelton, "How would you like to eat your lunch in the bathroom?"

Shelton, Magnaghi said, cited a different segment of Oregon pool law, saying state code requires all food and drink at public pools to stay behind a blue line that marks a four-foot perimeter from pool's edge.

Magnaghi wasn't sure what to think.

Oregon is one of 43 states that allow breastfeeding in any public or private location. If one considers lactation as food and drink, the two laws seem to clash.

Magnaghi went home and logged on the Internet to study the laws, before warning her Facebook friends not to try nursing at the M-F pool. Many joined in her outrage, she said, and advised her to stage a "nurse in."

Friday, Magnaghi and a few others did just that, though most other patrons probably missed the whole low-key poolside affair.

Though she isn't a breastfeeding mom, Cindy Armenta drove from Hermiston to support her sister Kim Alger and the others who participated in the nurse in.

"I felt like it was harassment," she said. "It is society's idea of what breasts are for that caused them to say something to a woman who was breastfeeding."

"I was outraged that they would ask her to go into the bathroom," said Alger, who nursed her son Isaiah. "Their discomfort should not make policy - I have the right to nurse and they have the option not to look."

As they talked, a woman approached Magnaghi, who sat nursing Levi.

Wendy Harris, a Milton-Freewater resident with a season pool pass to the swim center, hotly told Magnaghi that she'd seen Saturday's friction between her and the pool manager. Magnaghi, she said, had treated Shelton rudely and needed to observe the state's food and beverage laws for pools.

"The designated eating area is behind the blue line," she said.

Magnaghi kept her composure during the exchange, but looked slightly shaken as Harris stormed off. Her husband Kevin, she said, had warned her it could get ugly

Later, Harris, who said she breastfed her own children, talked about her main objection - the chance of breastmilk mixing with pool water and possibly exposing swimmers to HIV and hepatitis C.

"Her breastmilk may be pristine, but not everybody's is," she said.

Nurse-in participants stayed well back from the blue line on Friday and pool staff seemed to pay them no mind.

Shelton, the pool manager, declined to further weigh in on the controversy, referring inquiries to Milton-Freewater City Manager Linda Hall. Since city offices were closed Friday, Hall was unavailable for comment.

Magnaghi stayed composed, but adamant, as she nursed Levi under the shade of an umbrella.

"I don't want to be a vigilante or a militant," she said. "I just want people to know the rules."

Written by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 4:33 PM

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  • retsillacam
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 4:53 PM

  • Quoting Brooke501:


    Quoting mommam58122:

    ok i have some questions here:

    1. what if she was preggo and leaking would they have told her she couldnt swim because she was lactating?

    2.she was under a damn cover its not like it was out in the open and everyone could see her tit

    3.can u really spread hiv and hepatitis through breastmilk if so i never knew that

    4.if she had gone into the bathroom to bf and something happend to her other child the pool would have prolly been sued for the lifeguard being more worried about her bfing then watching the swimmers 

    I always thought that once the HIV virus hit the air it died???

    well and there is chlorine in the pool. Wouldn't that kill it? Plus I have always heard women with HIV can't breast feed. And as far as I know Hep C is only transferred through blood, not other bodily fluids.( I may be wrong though)


  • kachinav4
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 4:53 PM
  • I think that it was great that she was covered but why would u breastfeed ur child while sitting in the water??? I mean really how hard is it for her to get out of the water before starting to breastfeed. He shouldn' t have asked her to go to the rest room eh should have just asked her to get out of the water before she started to feed her child. Alot of pools will not let u have any food or drinks on the deck let alone in the water, and I agree with that part of it. I think that he worded it wrong and maybe other ppl had broughten it to his attention and let htem know they were uncomfortable. A child has a right to eat yes, and u should be able to feed ur child and if breastfeeding is what u want then go ahead, BUT I think tha tif u are unable to feed ur other children/child in that area then breastfeeding isn't appropriate there either.

  • Leener3
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 4:55 PM
  • Oh for gods sake. Get a life lady (the woman in the article not the poster.)  You know what... sometimes things have less to do about the right to breast feed and more about just being a f%^& pain in the ass. Why couldn't she have just sat behind the damn blue line and shut up.   It was probably a teenage lifeguard and pool manager not much older than that.  So instead of watching out so no child drowns these lifeguards in a fight with this woman. Why in god name couldn't she have just backed up behind the damn blue line.  We are talking about 6 lousy INCHES. THAT IS BEING A BITCH>

  • desi_dylan_bri
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 4:55 PM
  • she did not need to be feeding him in the water, period. rather it was a bottle, breast, whatever. yeah he should have told her to go behind the blue line and not in the building. blah blah blah. she would have bitched about it either way.

  • ArmyGal
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 4:56 PM

  • Quoting retsillacam:


    Quoting Brooke501:


    Quoting mommam58122:

    ok i have some questions here:

    1. what if she was preggo and leaking would they have told her she couldnt swim because she was lactating?

    2.she was under a damn cover its not like it was out in the open and everyone could see her tit

    3.can u really spread hiv and hepatitis through breastmilk if so i never knew that

    4.if she had gone into the bathroom to bf and something happend to her other child the pool would have prolly been sued for the lifeguard being more worried about her bfing then watching the swimmers 

    I always thought that once the HIV virus hit the air it died???

    well and there is chlorine in the pool. Wouldn't that kill it? Plus I have always heard women with HIV can't breast feed. And as far as I know Hep C is only transferred through blood, not other bodily fluids.( I may be wrong though)

    Some women BF even if they are positive for all of the above.

    "Could a dead, frozen heart break? It felt like mine would"~ Edward, Midnight Sun

  • KairisMama
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 4:58 PM
  • I agree. She was breaking a pool rule. However, the lifeguard should have directed her behind the blue line, NOT the locker room. Both have some blame here.

     

    Quoting Hybrid:

    she needs to stay behind the blue lines and all will be well... 


     Kairi


  • tmaldridge
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 5:04 PM

  • Quoting Brooke501:


    Quoting mommam58122:

    ok i have some questions here:

    1. what if she was preggo and leaking would they have told her she couldnt swim because she was lactating?

    2.she was under a damn cover its not like it was out in the open and everyone could see her tit

    3.can u really spread hiv and hepatitis through breastmilk if so i never knew that

    4.if she had gone into the bathroom to bf and something happend to her other child the pool would have prolly been sued for the lifeguard being more worried about her bfing then watching the swimmers 

    I always thought that once the HIV virus hit the air it died???

    HIV is transmitted throgh bodily fluids.  Breast Milk is a bodily fluid.

    However...Plain and simple, yes ity was rude, yes she can breast feed in public, just follow the pool's rules, too.  Be behind the blue line or whatever.

  • sillyone
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 5:05 PM
  •  oh I am actually laughing when I read this. The reason is I live in Oregon. i was preggo while being a swimming instuctor and lifeguard in my 8th month i stopped ligeguarding and just taught lessons. My water actual broke in the water while I teaching lessons and yes I probably did lick at the end, but guess what ladies that is what the clorine is far. Because there is a lot that happens in the water and us lifeguards can't see. Only time we actually had to close the pool down is when someone poop or bleed and that was just long enough to add more chorine to the pool.

    We totally allowed breast feeding mommys with open arms all the had to do was sit in the chairs away from the pool and the only reason we did this was becuase one time a women was bf near the pool and dropped her baby in there while dealing with her other child.

    I just can't beleive this happen in oregon becuase where i live its very bf friends town.

  • millerbabe07
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 5:05 PM
  • i live across the river from portland but if i knew about the nurse in i would have been there and you think they have a problem with a infant nursing under a cover my son is 18 months old and i don't use a cover

          I'm a cloth diapern', breastfeeding, baby wearing, natural waterbirthing mama to Jacob & one on the way!preview image 
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  • CrozCryz
  • by on Jul. 4, 2009 at 5:07 PM
  • From what I've read in online study results, you can spread HIV through breastmilk... luckily for mother's that are HIV positive, doctor's do have a way to take that breastmilk and sterilize it so that baby can still be fed the breastmilk.  What confuses me though is that even when baby is not feeding, this woman still has 'food/drink' in her breasts that can easily leak out at anytime, does that mean her walking past the blue line with 'food/drink' in her breasts is considered breaking that specific pool 'rule'?

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