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How would I go about speaking with my doctor?

Posted by on Oct. 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM
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Okay, so I have a post on here that is called "I have a suspicion".  Long story short, I'm pretty certain my son is having restricted breathing (two episodes) since getting the Hib vax.  He has had a cold both times, but NEVER before has he reacted to a cold this way.  He is 26 months and received his very first and only vax on Sept. 1 of this year and ended up in the hospital on Sept. 21st with restricted breathing.  This last Friday, he had the breathing troubles again.  So, I believe something is going on here due to the vax. 

My question is, how do I go about this with my doctor?  My gut tells me that he will scrinch up his nose and say "um, a vaccination wouldn't do that....".  How do I present my case and get my son tested for Hib and looked into for asthma (I'm thinking this could also have been brought on by the vax and is being overlooked).  What if my doctor just thinks that my son had a virus like the first doctor said (infact, he called it croup - common misdiagnosis for epiglottittis). 

Do I go to someone else with these concerns?  Do I report this without "really" knowing what is going on?  I'm just at a loss.  I will be speaking with my doctor but am very worried that it will only go "so far". 

Thanks!!

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Leslillli
by Member on Oct. 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM

i say trust your instincts. remember your doctor works for you! if he/she does think it is from the vaccine, demand testing. if they don't do it, go somewhere else. 

anziomom
by Bronze Member on Oct. 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM

First you should look up the symptoms in both VAERs and the package inserts. See how many others have reacted similarly. Then take that info to your doctor, and ask for the necessary tests. If he denies you, blows you off or downplays your concern, fire him and find another doctor.

While you could be right or wrong, no doctor should disrespect the opinion and concerns of the parent, the child's primary guardian. We have the most time and experience with our children, we are the ones who are most aware of their "normals".

Best wishes to your son!

P.S. Be sure to look into any asthma meds before allowing them... if that is the diagnosis.

healthywoman
by Member on Oct. 12, 2009 at 10:52 AM

Be straight forward and express your concerns and let the Dr know that you would really like a test done to relieve these fears. I think the straight forward approach always works best, don't back down! 

happytexasCM
by Gold Member on Oct. 12, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Perhaps going to a DAN doctor would be better; though you don't have concerns about autism, a DAN doctor already acknowledges that vaccines can cause harm.

You could also try a pneumologist; peds are generalists--you may need a specialist.

HIB Disease post vaccination

HIB at whaleto


Start reading at Precautions on pg 5 and on through Contraindications and Adverse Reactions Pedvax HIB.

Quote:

As reported with Haemophilus b Polysaccharide Vaccine36 and another Haemophilus b
Conjugate Vaccine37, cases of Hib disease may occur in the week after vaccination, prior to the
onset of the protective effects of the vaccines.
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Potential Adverse Reactions
The use of Haemophilus b Polysaccharide Vaccines and another Haemophilus b Conjugate
Vaccine has been associated with the following additional adverse effects: early onset Hib disease
and Guillain-Barré syndrome. A cause and effect relationship between these side effects and the
vaccination was not established.



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"I just find it very interesting that they are so quick to blame an
underlying condition for her death [post HPV vaccine], but if you point out that most
people who die from VPDs (not cervical cancer, but the other ones) also
have underlying conditions you are told that it is irrelevant and the
diseases are so scary, and get the shots." ~~Just Lily~~

coelmommy824
by Member on Oct. 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Thank you very much.  I will be printing these things off for my doctor.  I hate to keep bugging you with questions but you seem to have a wealth of knowlege.  But I'm wondering, if my son does have Hib disease, what is the treatment for that?  Is it basically antibiotics?  I know that would depend on if he has an illness along with it.  But, the bacteria itself, do you know what the prognosis normally is with the disease?  Thanks!

Quoting happytexasCM:

Perhaps going to a DAN doctor would be better; though you don't have concerns about autism, a DAN doctor already acknowledges that vaccines can cause harm.

You could also try a pneumologist; peds are generalists--you may need a specialist.

HIB Disease post vaccination

HIB at whaleto


Start reading at Precautions on pg 5 and on through Contraindications and Adverse Reactions Pedvax HIB.

Quote:

As reported with Haemophilus b Polysaccharide Vaccine36 and another Haemophilus b
Conjugate Vaccine37, cases of Hib disease may occur in the week after vaccination, prior to the
onset of the protective effects of the vaccines.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Potential Adverse Reactions
The use of Haemophilus b Polysaccharide Vaccines and another Haemophilus b Conjugate
Vaccine has been associated with the following additional adverse effects: early onset Hib disease
and Guillain-Barré syndrome. A cause and effect relationship between these side effects and the
vaccination was not established.




happytexasCM
by Gold Member on Oct. 13, 2009 at 7:33 AM


Quoting coelmommy824:

Thank you very much.  I will be printing these things off for my doctor.  I hate to keep bugging you with questions but you seem to have a wealth of knowlege.  But I'm wondering, if my son does have Hib disease, what is the treatment for that?  Is it basically antibiotics?  I know that would depend on if he has an illness along with it.  But, the bacteria itself, do you know what the prognosis normally is with the disease?  Thanks!


17% of invasive Hib cases results in epiglottitis, an infection and swelling in the throat that can lead to life-threatening airway blockage. Other forms of invasive Hib disease include joint infection (8%), skin infection (6%), pneumonia (15%), and bone infection (2%).

How do I know if my child has Hib disease?
The diagnosis of Hib disease is usually made based on one or more laboratory tests using a sample of infected body fluid, such as blood or spinal fluid.

Is there a treatment for Hib disease?
Hib disease is treated with antibiotics, usually for 10 days.

tnick
by Member on Oct. 13, 2009 at 9:58 AM

This is what I have from the drugs.com site.  According to them, trouble breathing is a side effect.  There is a lot of mention of this side effect on other medical sites as well.  I would certainly push this issue with the doctors.  If you were planning on continuing with the Hib series, you need definite answers on this.   If this is a reaction he should never receive another.  Next time could be much worse as reactions tend to increase with further doses.  Best wishes to you and your little man.

What are the signs and symptoms of a serious reaction to the Hib vaccine? A serious allergic reaction may have any of the following signs and symptoms:

  • Hives (red, itchy bumps with burning feeling on the skin) that have spread all over the body.

  • Loss of consciousness.

  • Redness or swelling of the face.

  • Swelling of the mouth and throat.

  • Weakness, dizziness, or a fast heartbeat.

  • Wheezing or trouble breathing.

The link is

http://www.drugs.com/cg/hib-vaccine.html


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