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Posted by on Oct. 12, 2009 at 1:03 PM
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I posted in FB a link I got from my chiropractor about vaccines.
This is it.
http://www.naturalnews.com/027178_vaccines_autism_NaturalPedia.html

Then, A good friend of mine replied saying this:

Carola, there are vaccines without thimerosal. It's still important to protect your children from these terrible diseases. Basic vaccines like small pox and polio have virtually eradicated those diseases in children. Not all vaccinations are bad.

I do not want to be rude, bn\but I want to let her know the facts...

Can someone help me, My English is not that good and I don not want to offend her and I would love her to see my point.

Thanks
by on Oct. 12, 2009 at 1:03 PM
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happytexasCM
by Gold Member on Oct. 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM


Friend,

Thimerisol is still unsed in the manufacture of vaccines; the manufacturers claim it is "spun out" but there is no independent verification that there is no thimerisol left in those vaccines. Vaccines are not harmless vitamins, but pharmaceutical drugs that every parent should evaluate individually as they would any other drug. The history of vaccines is not so simple as "introduce vaccine/erradicate disease."

Vaccines-The Risks, the Benefits, the Choices DVD, By Sherri J. TENPENNY
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7018835240451107552


 Here are some questions to answer for yourself in deciding about vax.

1. Name of the disease
2. Description of the disease
3. Length of time from initial infection to end of all symptoms
4. Infectious period
5. Normal symptoms of the disease
6. Known serious consequences of the disease
7. Proportion of persons infected developing serious consequences
8. Transmission route of the disease
9. Prevalence of the disease
10. Treatments of the disease and efficacy of those treatments
11. Relevant research about the disease
12. Name of the vaccine
13. Company that makes the vaccine
14. Contents of the vaccine
14A. The significance of whether or not the vaccine is live
15. History of development of the vaccine
16. Known side-effects of the vaccine and rate of incidence of those side-effects
17. Possible side-effects not yet acknowledged by the vaccine maker
18. Relevant research into the vaccine
19. How effective is the vaccine at preventing the disease?
20.What is the vaccine meant to do? (Many vaccines are not meant to prevent infection or transmission).
21.Number of cases reported each year.
22.Number of deaths reported each year from the vaccine and natural disease.

Here are some sources to help you out:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr_wk.html (download the current issue)
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/pink-chapters.htm
http://vaers.hhs.gov/pdf/PackageInserts.pdf
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7018835240451107552&q=
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6351515212287981735&hl=en
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/G/cases&deaths.pdf

Beyond Conformity Resources Page

Health Sentinel Graphs

CDC Ingredients list:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...nt-table-1.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...nt-table-2.pdf

Another Ingredients list:
http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html

Do you have a quick-fire summary?

Inside Vaccines

poisson
by Bronze Member on Oct. 12, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Well, I doubt you are going to be able to give her your side in a FB comment - lol.  That could take pages & pages.  I would just tell her that you have done your research & would be happy to send her info.  You could point out that those diseases were on the decline way before the vaccines were introduced - that is fairly easy to look up. 

I was talking to a friend last night (she doesn't have kids) but she said "It sure would be hard to know what to do if you had kids."  I just told her that it isn't hard to decide at all once you have done very thorough research.  You could just say that you have researched for however long & that you have come to the conclusion that the risk of the vaccines outweigh any benefits (even though there are none).  If she persists - just agree to disagree.

I'm sure you will get tons of great advice on here though.  Good Luck - it is a hard thing because so many people are brainwashed by the Lies.  I can't tell you how many times people try to tell me that my son won't be able to go to school or camp or anything else - ridiculous.

carolasaya
by Member on Oct. 12, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Thanks very much for the Info and advised. I'm actually sending her an email so I get to explain her better.
Thanks
SandiElder
by Member on Oct. 13, 2009 at 12:34 PM

You may also want to tell her that thimerosal isn't the only bad thing in vaccines.  What about the aluminum and the formaldehyde?

I agree and have also heard that even shots that claim to be thimerosal free, use it in the manufacture then try to remove it later.  At that point it is already bonded and can't be completely removed.

Joanne27
by Member on Oct. 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Vaccines are not what eraticated those diseases they were on the decline long before the vaccines!

Get this book vaccines are they really safe and effective.

truthcrusader
by Member on Oct. 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM
"Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity." Dr Herbert Shelton --- This the reason why it's often very difficult to convince people who believe in vaccination to change their minds. www.thinktwice.com is a good source of information. You could also get her to look up 'Ian's Voice', which features a horrendous photo of Ian's fatal reaction to a hepatitis B vaccination. It is very impressive and can be successfully used to shock pro-vaxers out of their hypnotic state. Or you could send her the photo.
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