Hep B shot at birth?

[playawaychildca]

I'm due in 2 weeks with my first baby. We plan on delaying vaccinations and skipping some all together. Problem is I feel totally overwhelmed in reading all of this information.

I tried to start with the 3 things they offer at birth:

Eye goop- mandatory in michigan

Vitamin K shot- I want to skip this one due to the increased risk of childhood cancer and because most brain bleeds are caused by using the forceps/vaccuum and we are not letting them use those during our birth but I can't get the oral drops of vit k here so I hope I am doing the right thing I just worry to much.

Hep B- This is one I am finding so many different arguments as to whether this is safe or not. Personally I think a brand new baby is too young for any vax but is this one that should be skipped completely or just delayed?

I would just like to hear some of your thoughts and what you do, obviously it will be a decision my dh and I make but I like to get info from real moms out there.

[happytexasCM]

Your first question should be "is it necessary to take a newborn from the womb and immediate vaccinate him for an STD?"

The rational for giving Hep B at birth is

• your baby will become a promiscuous intravenous drug using teen who rarely sees the doctor, so we'd better vax him now.
• we can't be sure that you aren't a intravenous drug using whore, or that your dh isn't diddling his secretary, so we are going to vax your newborn for an STD just in case.

Add to that, it is easier to get a vaccine manufactured if there is a universal recommendation.

http://www.iansvoice.org/

Some people will present you with the senario that your child will get bitten by a HepB positive child at daycare or at school; try to find one document case of this...even if you could--still no reason to vaccinate a newborn.

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/?page_id=21
Hepatitis B is transmitted through blood and infected bodily fluids. This can occur through:

• direct blood-to-blood contact
• unprotected sex
• unsterile needles
• from an infected woman to her newborn during the delivery process.

Other possible routes of infection include sharing sharp instruments such as razors, toothbrushes or earrings. Body piercing, tattooing and acupuncture are also possible routes of infection unless sterile needles are used
Hepatitis B is NOT transmitted casually. It cannot be spread through sneezing, coughing, hugging or eating food prepared by someone who is infected with hepatitis B. Everyone is at some risk for a hepatitis B infection.

Tabled Vaccine Injuries for HepB http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm:

VIII. Hepatitis B antigen-containing vaccines

A. Anaphylaxis or anaphylactic shock 1
0-4 hours
B. Any acute complication or sequela (including death) of above event 4

[MamaCass]

If you or your husband do not have hep B, do not get this shot

http://iansvoice.org/default.aspx

 

Vit K is debatable.  From what I have read, there is an increased incidence of leukemia in children who are given the vit K and then bottle fed (formula has lots of vit K in it) and are also premature.

Personally I won't be giving it to my next child.  If there is some type of trauma during birth I will give oral drops.  It is just a more natural way of absorbing the vitamin.

The eye goop is not mandated in Michigan.  It is an antibiotic ointment given to prevent blindness in the case that your have chlamydia or gonorrhea. They try and tell you that it is required but from what I have read it is not required by law.

Go to my page and read the post "tips I wish I had when I gave birth to my son"

 

By the way, I am a post partum nurse if that helps you in your decision.

[Autumn22]

Good info from everyone. :) I don't think the eye goop is manditory.  They say it is here in Ohio, too...but I told them I didn't want it.  Make sure you tell them you don't want it or else they'll just do it.

[Autumn22]

[DawnA72]

Quoting Autumn22:

Good info from everyone. :) I don't think the eye goop is manditory.  They say it is here in Ohio, too...but I told them I didn't want it.  Make sure you tell them you don't want it or else they'll just do it.

Autumn,

I'm not arguing with what you are saying at all, I just want to know if you can provide a source because I am in Ohio, expecting my 4th baby in April, and when discussing the eye treatment for my newborn at my last appointment, the midwife did say that it is required by law in Ohio.

Thanks!

[SylwiaH]

regarding the vitamin K. I was reading a lot about it and I am still quite torn whether to do it or not. If I am going to do it I will choose the liquid form which I have to purchase myself. The hospital does not provide liquid Vit K. Here is a website to get it from when you decide to do it. 

http://www.birthwithlove.com/categories/itempage.asp?prodid=Vitamin+K+1+(Vit+K+1+)Oral+Vit+K

i think the liquid form spread out over a period of time is much better than giving the baby an overdosed shot. 

[Autumn22]

Quoting DawnA72:

Quoting Autumn22:

Good info from everyone. :) I don't think the eye goop is manditory.  They say it is here in Ohio, too...but I told them I didn't want it.  Make sure you tell them you don't want it or else they'll just do it.

Autumn,

I'm not arguing with what you are saying at all, I just want to know if you can provide a source because I am in Ohio, expecting my 4th baby in April, and when discussing the eye treatment for my newborn at my last appointment, the midwife did say that it is required by law in Ohio.

Thanks!

Ya know, I don't remember at all where I learned that I didn't have to get it, but I just told them at the hospital that I didn't want it.  The nurse tried to tell me that she thought it was required but it turns out that it wasn't.  Maybe you can find something here: http://vaclib.org/exempt/ohio.htm 

[micheledo]

We have done the Vit K shot with all four kids.  I am still learning and studying, but didn't feel comfortable yet to refuse it.  We also did the eye goop though have decided to skip it next time.  My hubby and I have no diseases (STD's) that we could pass on to the kids.  My 4th child had chemical conjunctivitis (sp??) from the goop for almost his first two months.  It has only recently gone away.  It wasn't a major problem, just annoying.  We do not do the Hep B.  It is mainly transmitted through sex or dirty needles.  Neither of which our babies are going to be around any time soon.  I suppose if our kids want the vaccine later in life they can choose to get it.

[enetsala]

Our son was put into a coma for a week because of this shot at birth.  I am very much against this shot...especially if the parents do not have hep B.  My son will always have medical problems because of that shot.

[DawnA72]

Quoting Autumn22:

Quoting DawnA72:

Quoting Autumn22:

Good info from everyone. :) I don't think the eye goop is manditory.  They say it is here in Ohio, too...but I told them I didn't want it.  Make sure you tell them you don't want it or else they'll just do it.

Autumn,

I'm not arguing with what you are saying at all, I just want to know if you can provide a source because I am in Ohio, expecting my 4th baby in April, and when discussing the eye treatment for my newborn at my last appointment, the midwife did say that it is required by law in Ohio.

Thanks!

Ya know, I don't remember at all where I learned that I didn't have to get it, but I just told them at the hospital that I didn't want it.  The nurse tried to tell me that she thought it was required but it turns out that it wasn't.  Maybe you can find something here: http://vaclib.org/exempt/ohio.htm 

Thanks for the link.  Unfortunately I couldn't find the information I was looking for there.  I don't know why I'm having such a hard time finding this.