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Map of exemptions...

Posted by on Nov. 12, 2011 at 12:39 PM
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Just thought I would share...I know alot of people are looking for what exemptions they can file...here is the map of what exemptions each state exepts...

Im sure alot of you have seen this...but I thought it couldnt hurt to share.

Posted by on Nov. 12, 2011 at 12:39 PM
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wolfybaby
by Bronze Member on Nov. 13, 2011 at 3:51 AM

i find it weird that more northwestern states dont have philisophical exemptions but have religous seeing as how that area is renown for being less religous than other areas [washington, oregon, and alaska specifically, if im not mistaken..].

im just glad i dont live in mississippi or west virginia! and surpised california doesnt have all three exemptions.

novachick
by Member on Nov. 13, 2011 at 3:54 AM
I thought 48 states, excluding only WV and MS, had religious. That's what I read recently (like a week or two ago).
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novachick
by Member on Nov. 13, 2011 at 3:58 AM
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Ok this is from vaclib.org
Available Exemptions
Medical  &  Religious & Philosophical
Note: In California, the religious, philosophical and other belief exemptions are all under the term: "Personal Beliefs Exemption" (PBE).
So both are right. They have religious exemption, it's just covered under the philosophical so it doesn't matter if it's represented or not. I get it.
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Kristin0728
by Member on Nov. 13, 2011 at 10:00 AM
I had no idea that not every state had religious exemptions! I thought that was a constitutional right! Good info, thanks!
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RADmomma
by Member on Nov. 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM

I didnt even notice that. I thought it looked different than the one I had used before.

Quoting novachick:

Ok this is from vaclib.org
Available Exemptions
Medical  &  Religious & Philosophical
Note: In California, the religious, philosophical and other belief exemptions are all under the term: "Personal Beliefs Exemption" (PBE).
So both are right. They have religious exemption, it's just covered under the philosophical so it doesn't matter if it's represented or not. I get it.


RADmomma
by Member on Nov. 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM


Quoting Kristin0728:

I had no idea that not every state had religious exemptions! I thought that was a constitutional right! Good info, thanks!

all states do...this map just doesnt classify them all as religious...CA is showing them under the philisophical...

After looking at this map...I thought it looked different than the one I had used before but my old computer died and when I saw this one I thought it was the same... not so much...

Sorry...

novachick
by Member on Nov. 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM
Well Actually WV & MS only have medical exemptions. I don't understand how or why but they do. It's absolutely ridiculous. Every other state has both medical and religious. Then an additional 18 have
philosophical exemptions on top of the medical & religious.


Quoting RADmomma:


Quoting Kristin0728:

I had no idea that not every state had religious exemptions! I thought that was a constitutional right! Good info, thanks!

all states do...this map just doesnt classify them all as religious...CA is showing them under the philisophical...

After looking at this map...I thought it looked different than the one I had used before but my old computer died and when I saw this one I thought it was the same... not so much...

Sorry...

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Crimsonia
by Member on Nov. 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Quoting wolfybaby:

i find it weird that more northwestern states dont have philisophical exemptions but have religous seeing as how that area is renown for being less religous than other areas [washington, oregon, and alaska specifically, if im not mistaken..].

im just glad i dont live in mississippi or west virginia! and surpised california doesnt have all three exemptions.

Wow... That's odd... perhaps the map shown above is a little bit older, because the map I have saved shows all 3 exemptions in California, but that's the only difference I see at a quick glance... Still 18 states that have philosophical and still only two that have medical only:

Crimsonia
by Member on Nov. 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM
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Quoting novachick:
Ok this is from vaclib.org
Available Exemptions
Medical  &  Religious & Philosophical
Note: In California, the religious, philosophical and other belief exemptions are all under the term: "Personal Beliefs Exemption" (PBE).
So both are right. They have religious exemption, it's just covered under the philosophical so it doesn't matter if it's represented or not. I get it.

Well That makes sense... In Texas Religious and philosophical are treated the same... we fill out the same form regardless.... It's just listed separately on the map.

But honestly... if you read the definition of a religious exemption, then Personal belief/philosophical ARE technically the same anyway... so really all states, save WV & MS, have all three types. It just depends upon how you word your exemption that determines whether or not any particular "non-philo" state will accept it as religious. But so long as you have the definition printed upon your "Religious Exemption Letter", the school cannot deny you your exemption.

Religious Exemptions 

Applicable law has been interpreted to mean that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion. 

Our legal rights are guaranteed by the free exercise clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Recent court decisions have upheld the rights of individuals seeking exemptions from immunizations based upon personal and religious reasons. On the U.S. Supreme Court level in Frazee V. Illinois Dept. of Security, 489 U.S. 829, it was found that a state may not deny an exemption simply because a person is not a member of a formal religious organization.

In addition, the Supreme Court has noted that nontraditional beliefs, including secular humanism, atheism, and non-theistic faiths, are all "religion" for the purpose of free exercise analysis.

The Supreme Court in Fowler v. Rhode Island, 345 U.S. 67 (1953) held that it was "no business of the courts to say what is a religious practice or activity for one group is not religion under the protection of the First Amendment."

Kristin0728
by Member on Nov. 14, 2011 at 11:01 AM
So if we live in a state that only allows medical exemptions, can my children still go to school because of the first amendment?


Quoting Crimsonia:

Quoting novachick:
Ok this is from vaclib.org
Available Exemptions
Medical  &  Religious & Philosophical
Note: In California, the religious, philosophical and other belief exemptions are all under the term: "Personal Beliefs Exemption" (PBE).
So both are right. They have religious exemption, it's just covered under the philosophical so it doesn't matter if it's represented or not. I get it.

Well That makes sense... In Texas Religious and philosophical are treated the same... we fill out the same form regardless.... It's just listed separately on the map.


But honestly... if you read the definition of a religious exemption, then Personal belief/philosophical ARE technically the same anyway... so really all states, save WV & MS, have all three types. It just depends upon how you word your exemption that determines whether or not any particular "non-philo" state will accept it as religious. But so long as you have the definition printed upon your "Religious Exemption Letter", the school cannot deny you your exemption.


Religious Exemptions 


Applicable law has been interpreted to mean that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion


Our legal rights are guaranteed by the free exercise clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Recent court decisions have upheld the rights of individuals seeking exemptions from immunizations based upon personal and religious reasons. On the U.S. Supreme Court level in Frazee V. Illinois Dept. of Security, 489 U.S. 829it was found that a state may not deny an exemption simply because a person is not a member of a formal religious organization. 


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