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Romney vs Obama

Posted by on Apr. 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM
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Let's say Romney wins the Republican nomination and it's between him and Obama.

Who would you vote for and why?


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steviechick
by Gold Member on Apr. 25, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Once you give out handouts the rest falls like a domino affect.  That's the other problem with Obama.  He thinks government IS the answer to everything.  This country was NOT founded on that principal.  Just as long as you have those that believe handouts and the European way of thinking IS the answer you have chaos.  Just look at Europe and how it's run.  Their healthcare is worst then ours.  Why do you think foreigners come to our country for healthcare?  Because we all pay for it. 

Sat.Wed
by on Apr. 25, 2012 at 11:56 AM
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Yes their taxes may be higher BUT they are happier in surveys that havebeen done, we are one of the "richest" industrilzed countries yet we rank 28th in healthcare what us wrong with this picture? and making college affordable or help students quilfy for more schalorships(sp) helps.


Quoting Chanel5nyc:

People are confusing. They want healthcare but they don't want to pay for it and/or don't want to pay for other people. But if there is a news story about a young kid who has no health insurance and dying, people want to help.



Also, people want "free" health care, free childcare, free colleges, like Canada (only free healthcare) and other European countries. But guess what, their taxes are high. Nothing in life is free.



Bottom line, Americans are living longer. One reason is because of health care. No health care equals more deaths. Plain and simple.

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StephanieAngel
by on Apr. 25, 2012 at 11:56 AM
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Obama! This is a no brainer, um because he actually cares about moms like me.

Sat.Wed
by on Apr. 25, 2012 at 11:59 AM
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Whoa that is not 100% true, Americans are going to places like Europe, Inida etc for RISKY surgerys that are NOT legal or done here for good reason and IF Europes health care is so bad why are European cou.tries ranked ABOVE the US in health care?


Quoting steviechick:

Once you give out handouts the rest falls like a domino affect.  That's the other problem with Obama.  He thinks government IS the answer to everything.  This country was NOT founded on that principal.  Just as long as you have those that believe handouts and the European way of thinking IS the answer you have chaos.  Just look at Europe and how it's run.  Their healthcare is worst then ours.  Why do you think foreigners come to our country for healthcare?  Because we all pay for it. 


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Chanel5nyc
by Shanell on Apr. 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM
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Foreigners that come to America for the healthcare, usually don't have healthcare.

Do your research. Look up Italy.


Quoting steviechick:

Once you give out handouts the rest falls like a domino affect.  That's the other problem with Obama.  He thinks government IS the answer to everything.  This country was NOT founded on that principal.  Just as long as you have those that believe handouts and the European way of thinking IS the answer you have chaos.  Just look at Europe and how it's run.  Their healthcare is worst then ours.  Why do you think foreigners come to our country for healthcare?  Because we all pay for it. 

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faerie75
by Ruby Member on Apr. 25, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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 pretty much only poorer countries come to us for health care. ive never heard of french ppl or british or others coming here.

i talked to a norwegian on a plane once. they paid ALOT in taxes however they have NO crime and NO poverty.

capitalism worked when it was consumer controlled. it is not consumer controlled now and that is why teh economy is in the shitter. billionaires and corporations control it and ship all jobs overseas leaving the American worker w no work. then they want to point the finger at unions. why? because they didnt want to pay a living wage.

not everyone is born to be a CEO. there is no middle class anymore, its rich and poor and the ppl who are LESS poor have no help.

Quoting steviechick:

Once you give out handouts the rest falls like a domino affect.  That's the other problem with Obama.  He thinks government IS the answer to everything.  This country was NOT founded on that principal.  Just as long as you have those that believe handouts and the European way of thinking IS the answer you have chaos.  Just look at Europe and how it's run.  Their healthcare is worst then ours.  Why do you think foreigners come to our country for healthcare?  Because we all pay for it. 

 

 
        
         

Sat.Wed
by on Apr. 25, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Yes, andsorry others but Regenomics does NOT work the Reublicans seem to think so thats what they want to go back to


Quoting faerie75:

 pretty much only poorer countries come to us for health care. ive never heard of french ppl or british or others coming here.


i talked to a norwegian on a plane once. they paid ALOT in taxes however they have NO crime and NO poverty.


capitalism worked when it was consumer controlled. it is not consumer controlled now and that is why teh economy is in the shitter. billionaires and corporations control it and ship all jobs overseas leaving the American worker w no work. then they want to point the finger at unions. why? because they didnt want to pay a living wage.


not everyone is born to be a CEO. there is no middle class anymore, its rich and poor and the ppl who are LESS poor have no help.


Quoting steviechick:


Once you give out handouts the rest falls like a domino affect.  That's the other problem with Obama.  He thinks government IS the answer to everything.  This country was NOT founded on that principal.  Just as long as you have those that believe handouts and the European way of thinking IS the answer you have chaos.  Just look at Europe and how it's run.  Their healthcare is worst then ours.  Why do you think foreigners come to our country for healthcare?  Because we all pay for it. 


 


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StephMarie_Mom
by on Apr. 25, 2012 at 1:04 PM
This, I agree with!

" IF there was lower costs in place everyone could afford their own healthcare.  The insurance companies are monopolizing the healthcare system.   They are fraudulently raising the price of heatlhcare from meds.   Doctors raise their rates because of the costs they have to cover to keep their practices going.  It's a raging cycle that has been going on for decades."


Quoting steviechick:

Romney has already stated that the people of MA voted for govenrment healthcare plan, so that's why he incorporated it.  He also said it was the biggest mistake he's ever made.  Look at how messed up it is after it's been in place? 


The problem with our healthcare system is the cost.  You can't force a taxpayer to pick-up the tab for those that can't afford to pay for their healthcare.  That's the problem.  IF there was lower costs in place everyone could afford their own healthcare.  The insurance companies are monopolizing the healthcare system.   They are fraudulently raising the price of heatlhcare from meds.   Doctors raise their rates because of the costs they have to cover to keep their practices going.  It's a raging cycle that has been going on for decades. 


ObamaCare isn't liked by most of Americans and was forced down our throats.  That's why it's been forced on the SCOTUS.  


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5BMom
by on Apr. 25, 2012 at 1:19 PM
I don't mean to sound harsh, but why is it MY responsibility to pay for YOUR childs healthcare. Please explain that to me in detail, becausr I don't understand it at all.


Quoting Sat.Wed:

So the disabled shouldnt be taken care of? there are 56 different Medicaid programs theses were around WAY before Obama, take away my daughters SSI that I PAY for, and her specialized medicaid and she has NO coverage, she was DENIED coverage when I was 18 weeks pregnant with her. and umm Obama did NOT enact the Patriot act after 9/11 Bush STOLE alot of our rights under the guise of Homeland Security, YET Bush couldnt get Bin Laden, hmmmmmm.......




Quoting 5BMom:

Thats Food Stamps, is it not. Persons on disability alone have increased something like 5.4 million. People on unemployement have increased a net of 1.5% (give or take). Medicaid numbers are up.



Quoting Chanel5nyc:

Nope



http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-01-18/fact-check-gingrich-obama-food-stamps/52645882/1





http://mobile.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-25/gingrich-calling-obama-food-stamp-president-draws-critics.html
Quoting 5BMom:

Actually, more people ARE on welfare.



http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/04/welfare-at-all-time-high-under-obama/






Quoting Chanel5nyc:

I disagree. I don't think America is becoming communist. I believe people should get vaccinated, before vaccines people were getting measles, tb, etc. People complain about not having health insurance but get mad when Obama makes you get health insurance. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. Taxes and welfare been around way before Obama. Blame the welfare problem on Bush. Actually less people are on welfare compared to Bush.





Quoting 5BMom:

Romney. If Obama gets re-elected we may not have an election in 2016. We are headed the way of China, a socialistic communist state. As it is, the government is increasing its oversight of citizens every day. From telling us how to parent our kids, to forcing us to have health insurance, to mandating vaccinations, to robbing peter to pay paul. Taxes violate our rights. The Department of Education is unconstitutional. And Obama wants to increase the governments reach, while Romney wants to decrease it. I personally am offended that my hard earned money pays for social programs for others. I resent paying for someone elses food, when mine can be a struggle.










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by Silver Member on Apr. 25, 2012 at 1:38 PM
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COMPLETELY AGREE


Quoting 5BMom:

Romney. If Obama gets re-elected we may not have an election in 2016. We are headed the way of China, a socialistic communist state. As it is, the government is increasing its oversight of citizens every day. From telling us how to parent our kids, to forcing us to have health insurance, to mandating vaccinations, to robbing peter to pay paul. Taxes violate our rights. The Department of Education is unconstitutional. And Obama wants to increase the governments reach, while Romney wants to decrease it. I personally am offended that my hard earned money pays for social programs for others. I resent paying for someone elses food, when mine can be a struggle.

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