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Power Pumping

Posted by on Dec. 12, 2013 at 9:25 AM
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Has anyone here tried it to help boost your milk supply?

I'm not exclusively pumping, but I might as well be. She gets expressed milk all week while i'm at work. She nurses 3-4 times a day. Typically twice in the morning before I leave for work, and a couple times before bed. On top of that, I pump 3 times while I'm at work, and once 2 hours after she goes to bed. Lately, I've been waking up around 2am to pump also.

I wouldn't say I have a LOW supply. I average about 3-4 ounces per pump session every 3 hours at work. It's just enough to get her through the next day's feedings but I want to establish more of a freezer supply, which is hard to do when she's eating everything I express.

I've tried just about everything to boost my supply... oatmeal, fenugreek, mothers milk tea, compression, massage, beer even.  It just stays the same regardless. I know nursing her more frequently would help, but if she isn't hungry, she wants nothing to do with nursing.

I heard about power pumping (10 mins on, 10 mins off) for an hour or two a few days in a row. I attempted it last night after her nursing session. I only got 2 ounces doing that because she basically emptied me before hand but I heard it doesn't matter what the output is, because the pump is signaling your body to make more milk. I have yet to do my first pump today, so I have no idea if there's a differece yet, but I'm curious to see who has done this. Did it work for you? How much more were you able to pump afterwards?

 

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hnischke
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 10:02 AM
How long are your shifts? How much milk are you leaving?
bryannaleec
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM

I'm roughly away from her for roughly 10 hours (8 hour work shift plus a 45min- hour commute back and forth) She takes about 4 oz per feeding. I leave 16 oz with whoever she's with. If she's with my aunt she'll normally only take the 12 because I'm home for her to nurse. If she's with her father, he has her longer so she'll take all 16 by 6:00/6:30pm  Here's my typical work day:

4:00am - She wakes to nurse.

5:00am- I wake for the day - shower - get ready for work.

6:00am- I wake her up to nurse again.

6:45/7:00 am- Drop off at sitters.

9:00/9:30 am - She eats 4oz / I pump 3-4 oz.

12:00/12:30pm - She eats 4oz.  / I pump 3-4 oz.

3:00/3:30 pm - She eats 4oz.  / I pump 2.5-3 oz.

4:00- I leave work

4:45/5:00- Mondays/Thursdays/Fridays I get home and see her. Tuesdays/Wednesdays she stays with her father a little longer so he can spend time with her.

6:00/6:30: If she's with her father (Tuesdays and Wednesdays) she eats 4 oz from a bottle / I pump at home 2.5-3 oz.  If she's with my Aunt, I nurse her.

9:00/9:30: She's home with me and nurses - bedtime. She's pretty much asleep until 4am.

Once she goes to bed, I pump when I can - normally around 12 or 1

I try my hardest to get at least 8 pumps/nursings in a day but sometimes it's 7.

bryannaleec
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 10:57 AM

I didn't see any change so far - My 9:30 pump this morning was 3.5 ounces total which is normal for me.

I seriously hope to see an increase after a couple days.

I don't want to be a crazy overproducing mama, but an extra couple ounces per session would be nice.

bryannaleec
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Oh and in case you're wondering... I'm using a Medela Pump in Style Advance.

hnischke
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Well that's your problem! She's getting 2/3 of her daily intake from the bottles vs you and she's not away from you for half the day. You don't have a supply issue you have an over fed baby (which is easier to fix) :D

If you cut back what she gets from the bottle you won't need to pump as much since she'll be wanting the breast more.

Quoting bryannaleec:

I'm roughly away from her for roughly 10 hours (8 hour work shift plus a 45min- hour commute back and forth) She takes about 4 oz per feeding. I leave 16 oz with whoever she's with. If she's with my aunt she'll normally only take the 12 because I'm home for her to nurse. If she's with her father, he has her longer so she'll take all 16 by 6:00/6:30pm  Here's my typical work day:


4:00am - She wakes to nurse.


5:00am- I wake for the day - shower - get ready for work.


6:00am- I wake her up to nurse again.


6:45/7:00 am- Drop off at sitters.


9:00/9:30 am - She eats 4oz / I pump 3-4 oz.


12:00/12:30pm - She eats 4oz.  / I pump 3-4 oz.


3:00/3:30 pm - She eats 4oz.  / I pump 2.5-3 oz.


4:00- I leave work


4:45/5:00- Mondays/Thursdays/Fridays I get home and see her. Tuesdays/Wednesdays she stays with her father a little longer so he can spend time with her.


6:00/6:30: If she's with her father (Tuesdays and Wednesdays) she eats 4 oz from a bottle / I pump at home 2.5-3 oz.  If she's with my Aunt, I nurse her.


9:00/9:30: She's home with me and nurses - bedtime. She's pretty much asleep until 4am.


Once she goes to bed, I pump when I can - normally around 12 or 1


I try my hardest to get at least 8 pumps/nursings in a day but sometimes it's 7.

hnischke
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Now I can provide all of the best practice information if you are interested in learning about it.
bryannaleec
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM

We tried to cut back what she takes in while I'm away, and we did! She was up to 6 oz a feeding during her growth spurt. After 4 oz, she would scream because she was still hungry. My aunt couldn't comfort her... she just wanted to eat.

Now we're at the 4 oz. per feeding and she's been doing really good. She wimpers like she want's more but then stops after a few seconds.

If you wanna send me the information, I'm more than open to learning about it. She's almost 4 months. I assumed 4 oz a feeding was normal for her age.

bryannaleec
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Basically, what we did to settle on the 4oz decision was take 30oz (suggested amount per day) and divided by the number of feedings she gets every day (7)... roughly 4oz. She needs 3 bottles while I'm away because she eats every 3 hours like clockwork (12oz). The days she's with her father she needs 4 feedings because I'm not with her.

And like I said, If I nurse her when she's not hungry, she fights me on it... bad. Tugs on my nipple and everything.

I do have an appointment with a lactation specialist tomorrow at 2:00, so I'm hoping to get some help there too.

hnischke
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Wow! That was WAAAAY too much her poor tummy got stretched out. That's why she cried babies know their tummy hurts and they don't know that eating more makes it worse. She wanted to suck for comfort.

I suggest this to both breast feeding moms and EPing moms. If you follow best practice you will maintain your breastfeeding relationship. With an EPing mom it will help reduce the chances of her supplementing because she will be able to keep up with the babies needs (24-30oz per day).

Baby only needs to eat 1-1.25oz per hour separated from mom. This should be fed in bottles no larger than 3oz each. Baby should be held in an upright position (like they are sitting up) with the bottle parallel to the floor. Stop after every oz to burp. If baby fusses after eating pop a paci in and let her suck and she'll calm down.

This doesn't matter how old the baby is. It is. Constant rule to follow because the composition of breast milk changes as the baby grows.

Quoting bryannaleec:

We tried to cut back what she takes in while I'm away, and we did! She was up to 6 oz a feeding during her growth spurt. After 4 oz, she would scream because she was still hungry. My aunt couldn't comfort her... she just wanted to eat.


Now we're at the 4 oz. per feeding and she's been doing really good. She wimpers like she want's more but then stops after a few seconds.


If you wanna send me the information, I'm more than open to learning about it. She's almost 4 months. I assumed 4 oz a feeding was normal for her age.

hnischke
by Member on Dec. 12, 2013 at 11:37 AM
1 mom liked this
http://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/feeding-tools/bottle-feeding/

Here is the link that explains this further. Kellymom is a GREAT RESOURCE!
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