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So...What do You want to Know about Astrology?

Posted by on Feb. 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM
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Hi Guys, I was just thinking that we need a post where you can feel comfortable asking anything.

Post your questions here, they can be specific or general, beginner or advanced. We'll answer them here and if it's a topic that needs to be expanded on we'll post a more complete post with all the info you could ever want!!

So whatcha'  wondering about?

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by on Feb. 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM
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serenitywolf
by Group Admin on Feb. 10, 2009 at 2:04 AM

I am alittle confused on signs changing with your moon post. Does your signs change in astrology?

busylittleelf
by Group Owner on Feb. 10, 2009 at 9:15 AM

Well, your natal chart never changes and it is used as the basis of all readings BUT there is something called Progressions(secondary progressions) This looks at how your chart progresses over time. Since the planets continue to move after you are born, the thought is so does your natal chart. Basically your natal chart progresses at one day per year of life. So on your 28th birthday your progressed chart would look like a person who was born 28 days after you were.

your natal chart is who you are, the transits show fleeting influences and progressions show your evolution.

The progressed moon changes signs most often in your life so it's a good one to start with.I've noticed that I'm attracted to men in the sign my Progressed moon is in(there are even certain signs I'm not attracted to, which I find funny) Usually I notice I meet alot more people of the sign that my progressed moon is in.

I just found notes from a seminar I went to right before my son was born talking about progressions. I'll try to do a post on them (it'll be tomorrow at the earliest, i have an order to get out today!)

Mama_McD
by Group Admin on Feb. 10, 2009 at 11:51 PM

I am curious to learn more about something in my chart.

I have a "Mutual Reception".  From what I understand, this is when two planets "live" in the sign of the other planet's ruler.  I don't know how to put it into words better.  For example, Capricorn's ruler is Saturn and Virgo's Ruler is Mercury.  In my chart, Saturn is in Virgo, and Mercury is in Capricorn, which creates a Mutual Reception between these two planets, correct?

I am a Capricorn, and since this sign is ruled by Saturn, I payed close attention to where Saturn was in my chart, since it is in Virgo, I think this is often why I seem like more of a Virgo than a Capricorn.  Then I noticed that Virgo's ruler, Mercury, is in my Capricorn, it kinda "loops" this energy back around.

Is there anything else I should know about a Mutual reception? perhaps you can explain it better....

busylittleelf
by Group Owner on Feb. 11, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Yeah, mutual reception is when two planets are positioned in each other's sign of rulership.

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RULERSHIP:

Aries-Mars

Taurus-Venus

Gemini-Mercury

Cancer-Moon

Leo-Sun

Virgo-Mercury

Libra- Venus

Scorpio- Pluto(Mars)

Sagittarius-Jupiter

Capricorn- Saturn

Aquarius-Uranus

Pisces-Neptune

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From my experience, Mutual Receptions strengthen the planets involved. I usually read the Mutual Reception as a Unit, not as individual planets, I can't really put into words how this is done, it's almost more of an inner feeling of how they would operate together ( like an electrical circuit).(My way of reading it is the same with aspects , it blends the energies together) Some astrologers believe that if the planets aren't actually in aspect or if the planets involved are in detriment or fall they don't hold the same strength but I haven't really seen this to be true, maybe if there are a lot of other things going on in the chart it may not be as prominent, but even then I would think it would be evident in the person's personality.

Here's what wikipedia has, which I thought was a pretty good explanation:

In astrology, mutual reception is a concept where two planets are placed in each other's signs of rulership. If the condition of each planet in mutual reception is strong, they will strengthen and provide assistance to one another. Some modern astrologers believe they will also take on some of each other's attributes.

Whenever planets are in mutual reception, they provide the native with additional forces to overcome difficulties that present themselves during transits affecting their signs and houses. Ancient astrologers called this condition "exchange of signs," and it was but one example of various forms of astrological reception, that is, assistance provided by one planet for another one which falls in signs where the first planet has dignity.

However, there are conditions where this helpful relationship is much weakened:

  • If one of the planets is in a sign of its detriment or fall, it is not likely to have the resources to be of much assistance to the planet it rules;
  • If the condition of one or both of the planets is otherwise impaired--such as by being placed in a sign that does not aspect the Ascendant sign (for example, the twelfth house), or retrograde, or combust or under the beams (that is, within fifteen degrees of the Sun), it will similarly be of less use to the planet it receives, in proportion to how poorly it is positioned;
  • If the two planets are not in astrological aspect to one other (that is, the signs in which they are placed are not in sextile, trine, square or opposition angles to one another, the condition of mutual reception will likely not obtain, since there is no connection between the two planets in which this mutuality can be effected. Furthermore, if the aspect between the two signs is one of opposition, the planets will both be opposite their signs of rulership, which is the definition of being in detriment, and hence both will be too weak to be of much help to the other.

For example, in a chart where Mercury is in Capricorn and Saturn is in Virgo, a strong mutual reception is in effect. Mercury is located in Capricorn, Saturn's domicile, or rulership, and Saturn is found in Mercury's sign of rulership and of exaltation, Virgo. The two signs are in trine to one another, and hence have a strong working relationship. In this instance, the individual with these placements would be likely to demonstrate a powerful, logical mind, with excellent ability to reason and strong habits of organization, as well as the likelihood of being a very hard-working, focused thinker. The relationship brings out the best attributes of Saturn's powers of organization and dedication and Mercury's facility of mind. Furthermore, transits affecting Mercury adversely would be mitigated by Saturn's strengths, and Saturn might be able to come to Mercury's rescue. Mercury might have the same function in the case of an adverse transit to Saturn.

If an individual has the Sun posited in Aquarius and Saturn located in Leo, both the Sun and Saturn are in mutual reception, since the Sun's own house is in Leo, where Saturn is located, and Saturn governs the sign of Aquarius, where the Sun is positioned. However, in this example, since the signs of Leo and Aquarius are opposed to one another in aspect, the mutual reception may be of little value. Located opposite their own houses, in the signs of their detriment, both planets have little dignity, and without other very strong placement factors to compensate for this, the mutuality is probably not a factor in the individual's life

Similarly, with Venus in Virgo and Mercury in Libra, there is inherently a weakness in the mutuality of the relationhip. Venus in Virgo is in fall, and can provide little support for Mercury, although Mercury, if otherwise powerful and well-positioned (for example in the first house or tenth house), may be helpful to Venus. But the relationship is further impaired by the fact that the signs Virgo and Libra are in aversion to one another--that is, they are not in aspect--and hence there is no easy way for these two planets to work together.[1]

Mutual reception is not limited to exchange of the signs of dignity of rulership. Ancient and medieval astrologers gave equal force to mutuality obtained by planets being in each other's signs of exaltation--for example, Jupiter in Taurus in a chart where the Moon is in Cancer. Jupiter is exalted in the sign of Cancer; Moon is exalted in the sign of Taurus. This is a very powerful mutual reception, not only because Taurus and Cancer are in a sextile aspect to one another, but also because the Moon is also in its own house in Cancer. This placement would tend to give a notably generous and probably religious individual, with a good deal of luck and talent.

Astrological reception

Actually, a mutual reception with Sun in Aquarius and Saturn in Leo is quite strong. Why? Because remember, each planet in a mutual reception draws support from the other sign. The Sun in Aquarius is not strong for the Sun, Saturn in Leo is not strong for Saturn....but each becomes stronger because of the mutual reception.....each draws the strength from its own sign. (Some people like to read the planets like they also live in their own signs as well.)

I hope this makes sense and helps some, I had started this earlier and had to run out and when I came back my reply was gone and my brain isn't as clear as it was this morning!!

Ay Carumba!!

I'll write a seperate post with more info on mutual receptions,They really are fascinating, I think your's is quite evident in your personality (wanting to create structure and order in our forum, LOL:O)

If anyone knows they have one let me know, or if you'd like me to look make sure I have your info and I'll check it out.

Quoting Mama_McD:


I am curious to learn more about something in my chart.

I have a "Mutual Reception".  From what I understand, this is when two planets "live" in the sign of the other planet's ruler.  I don't know how to put it into words better.  For example, Capricorn's ruler is Saturn and Virgo's Ruler is Mercury.  In my chart, Saturn is in Virgo, and Mercury is in Capricorn, which creates a Mutual Reception between these two planets, correct?

I am a Capricorn, and since this sign is ruled by Saturn, I payed close attention to where Saturn was in my chart, since it is in Virgo, I think this is often why I seem like more of a Virgo than a Capricorn.  Then I noticed that Virgo's ruler, Mercury, is in my Capricorn, it kinda "loops" this energy back around.

Is there anything else I should know about a Mutual reception? perhaps you can explain it better....


Mama_McD
by Group Admin on Feb. 11, 2009 at 7:04 PM

I copied this into the other thread -  LOL - you are so right with the thing you said about me wanting to organize the forum being part of my personality and I really thought the same thing too, about it being related to my mutual reception.  Hope I don't come across as too controlling or anal - but obviously you understand why! Thanks girl, you rock! 

busylittleelf
by Group Owner on Feb. 11, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Thanks for copying this!!

Quoting Mama_McD:

can you copy this info into the Mutual Reception thread you created?  Or do you want me to do it?  LOL - you are so right with the thing you said about me wanting to organize the forum being part of my personality and I really thought the same thing too, about it being related to my mutual reception.  Thanks girl, you rock! 


Mama_McD
by Group Admin on Feb. 11, 2009 at 7:27 PM


Quoting busylittleelf:

Thanks for copying this!!

Quoting Mama_McD:

can you copy this info into the Mutual Reception thread you created?  Or do you want me to do it?  LOL - you are so right with the thing you said about me wanting to organize the forum being part of my personality and I really thought the same thing too, about it being related to my mutual reception.  Thanks girl, you rock! 

 

haha, after I wrote that I went ahead and copied it anyways, then I came back to edit my post at the same time that you were posting this!

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