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Do any of your kids??

Posted by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 6:30 PM
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Do any of your kids act well at school, not disruptive, and seem to pay attention but anywhere else they are "off the wall", exact opposite and still been Dx'd with ADD/ADHD?  

This is our case, my son is behind the other kids in class academically, but behavior wise, paying attention, sitting still etc, he's fine, but outside of school that's not the case, he doesn't listen, has impulsive behavior, won't sit still etc.. .  He has been Dx'd with ADHD and we were going to start meds, my question is should we? The school did testing and found the reason he's behind has nothing to do w/lack of attention so WTH??  They were shocked when we explained his behavior outside of school

 

                           shrugging

 

by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 6:30 PM
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motherofhope98
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 6:41 PM

I wouldn't medicate.  Sounds like he is storing up all his energy for home.  Maybe an afterschool sport or activity to burn it off.


Before you medicate for ADHD, have him tested for food sensitivities.  If there are unknown issues with food, it can show has behavioral problems.  Made a big difference for us.

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Charmed7up
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 8:07 PM

What did the school determine was the reason he was behind in school?

my2boyz117
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 8:35 PM

They are still working on that .....but so far reports have shown he has good attention span at school supposedly... They do know he has trouble with possible dyslexia, even though they didn't come out and call it that and trouble figuring things out without verbal prompting.

Quoting Charmed7up:

What did the school determine was the reason he was behind in school?


Shirlgirlie
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Does he have anxiety?  He might not want to stick out or get in trouble so he is able to keep in under control.  Then when he gets home he falls apart.

Are you giving him any treats after school that have artificials in them?  Even something as simple as goldfish crackers would have sent my son reeling.

I agree with mother of hope about food allergies.  We got alot of help from finding out what our son's were.

I'd keep a keen eye on what he eats and how he behaves.  Also what's the environment like where he is having behavior.  Some kids have mold allergies (mine), dust allergies or they just can't handle the toxins that are in our homes.

Just some thoughts.  If you want to read about alternatives that look for root problems to causes check out Ken Bock's book "healing the childhood epidemics". 

feingold.org is a good diet resource.  We got great results from the fg program.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

my2boyz117
by on Jan. 21, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I mentioned food allergies to our Ped and he said no the symptoms your son shows wouldn't be food allergies/intolerance's...   Yes he has anxiety about school b/c he realizes he is struggling compared to other kids, so he's in counselingfor that and doing better w/it.  Also we have taken fruit snacks out of his diet and limited his juice to even less. I also asked our Ped about Red Dye in food and he blew it off as some studies say there's a link but he doesn't think it will make a difference.

motherofhope98
by on Jan. 22, 2009 at 7:53 AM

I'm sorry, but your Ped is wrong.  It definately can be food caused.  Google Dr Rapp and Feingold.org

Ask your ped to order RAST testing for food & molds. Ask for IGG & IGE antigens.  If he won't, then ask him to refer you to an allergist.  Don't just mention it....INSIST. 

Unfortunately, many dr's are set in their beliefs. Is your dr an MD or a DO?  I have found that DO's are more willing to explore other treatments.  Artficials DO make a difference.  Our last psych told me that any child will get hyper over candy if they are not allowed to have it.  I should let him have some.  It wasn't until we made all the diet changes and she saw how differently he behaved did she acknowledge that food does make a difference.  Two months later she graduated him from therapy.



Quoting my2boyz117:

I mentioned food allergies to our Ped and he said no the symptoms your son shows wouldn't be food allergies/intolerance's...   Yes he has anxiety about school b/c he realizes he is struggling compared to other kids, so he's in counselingfor that and doing better w/it.  Also we have taken fruit snacks out of his diet and limited his juice to even less. I also asked our Ped about Red Dye in food and he blew it off as some studies say there's a link but he doesn't think it will make a difference.


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my2boyz117
by on Jan. 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM

He's an M.D.. I can see they are set in their ways and only believe in certain studies and certain things etc...  My own Mom mentioned to me about having him tested for food allergies and I read they can show the same "signs" as if they have ADHD/ADD.  


 

Quoting motherofhope98:

I'm sorry, but your Ped is wrong.  It definately can be food caused.  Google Dr Rapp and Feingold.org

Ask your ped to order RAST testing for food & molds. Ask for IGG & IGE antigens.  If he won't, then ask him to refer you to an allergist.  Don't just mention it....INSIST. 

Unfortunately, many dr's are set in their beliefs. Is your dr an MD or a DO?  I have found that DO's are more willing to explore other treatments.  Artficials DO make a difference.  Our last psych told me that any child will get hyper over candy if they are not allowed to have it.  I should let him have some.  It wasn't until we made all the diet changes and she saw how differently he behaved did she acknowledge that food does make a difference.  Two months later she graduated him from therapy.

 

 

Quoting my2boyz117:

I mentioned food allergies to our Ped and he said no the symptoms your son shows wouldn't be food allergies/intolerance's...   Yes he has anxiety about school b/c he realizes he is struggling compared to other kids, so he's in counselingfor that and doing better w/it.  Also we have taken fruit snacks out of his diet and limited his juice to even less. I also asked our Ped about Red Dye in food and he blew it off as some studies say there's a link but he doesn't think it will make a difference.

 


allforthelove
by on Jan. 27, 2009 at 3:14 AM

hi

i have a 16 yo with adhd, ld, seizure disorder , and ashthma a 11 with add and ptsd, a 10 yro old with odd and ptsd, and a 9yr old "typical" child.  i also have a 1 yr old.

if i give my child "froot loops" it is like giviing them crack!!   ALL of them not just my add/ adhd children.  food can and does have an impact on how a child handles himself.

as for the inconsistancy of behavior: be careful.....and consider these things

1 what was the criteria for the diagnosis?  my son underwent a thorough 8 hour observaton and testing for all kinds of  posibilities ( eyes ,ears, learning disabilities, psycological, emotional disorders ) many other things can look like adhd and your child may just be going thru a phaze where he is just "out there"   Some drs  like to think a 10 minuet window is enough to dx adhd but they are wrong!! dont accept  that if that is what you got!! take him to a nerodevelopmental specialist.  if you are in CA the best place around here is the UCDAVIS MIND INSTITUTE in Sacramento.  if not you might be able to get a referal to a place near you if you call them.

2 many kids with adhd/add are able to " pull it together " when the activities are of intrest to the child.  ( my boys play video games for hours)  it is when its not that interesting (like school for my son ) or they have too much stimulus (too many choices of what to do ....they cant make up their mind)  that they have a hard time.  my daughter can behave but produces little in the way of "work".  she manages to pass her tests and is doing ok but you would never guess it to see her mind off elsewhere during class.

3 what kind of structure does he have after school?  does he have a routine?  adhd kids thrive on structure and knowing what to expect.   maybe all he needs is a structured environment ( sports, clubs, or maybe a music class?) to keep him out of trouble.  my oldest was in a martial  arts class for a while and it helped  him to have a place that expects a lot of energy and gives the freedom of movement but is still verry structured. 

 

the final decision is yours and your childs............for us it is  a matter of severity and making it thru the day at school and at home.  but even a typical child will improve on adhd meds.. ( accademicaly)   if you find it isnt working  you can always stop.  and if you find you just cant help him help himself then maybe you should..............

 

at any rate i wish you the best of luck.  feel free to msg me anytime.

tina

my2boyz117
by on Jan. 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM

 

                           Thanks Ladies!!!

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